Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

IR always want to please the west and be good player
if I think about this as an Israeli:

I invested a lot of resources and planning to destroy Iran's air defences in large parts of Iran, which was successful beyond belief and I cannot repeat it easily in the future

I learned I can kill the entire IRI leadership and freely bomb all nuclear sites and civilian targets and only expect a symbolic response, all the prior IRGC threats were total bluster and strongest factions within IRI will be desperate for ceasefire immediately

I learned I can successfully suppress missile launches from the largest MRBM bases, only having to absorb 10-20 missiles per day, of which 2-3 hit anything useful (compared to 100-200+ effective precise hits on Iran each day)

I got the US to intervene directly and bomb Esfahan, Natanz and Fordow and I was vindicated that Iran would only respond symbolically to that too, meaning the US does not need to worry about casualties or Strait or Hormoz closure no matter what it does in Iran

--> this all leads to one direction
 
Many of us are acting based on emotions, but we must understand that the situation is 100 times more complicated than what we think and see. There are no "fast food" solutions; (do x and problem y is solved). If there is anything like that I'm sure we have officials, military etc who have planned already. Have patience.
 
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It was Rouhani and Zarif and their kind, look no further.
 
Jewkrainians and Arabs loves jews and zionists so much that they are pleased to get bombed by Israeli made bombs
Can we specifically say Arab and Ukrainian government seriously either way nothing to
I don't know, and don't believe that Israel is supporting Russia anyhow...
In all Israelis media without pause most negative person is Khamenei, most ne⁴gative country Iran, but just a bit behind are Putin and Russia..

But Russia is self-deceptive and irrational, waiting to get love from the special ones
i wouldn’t doubt Russia double dips they play all sides and they’re really not subtle about it
 
if we strongly suspect Israel will attack us again soon, should we wait for them to hit us hard and let them have the first mover advantage again, or do something about it first?

Iran lacks the military means to have any type of advantage in a first move strike compared to day two of the war. Iran lacks critical mass of precision to take out large parts of Israel’s military infrastructure, so no point. It would be best that Iran tries to clean up internal mossad teams asap and try to get its AD system back online asap.

Additionally prepare to be able to fight longer than Israel. It felt like Iran was more desperate for a ceasefire than Israel was in the 12 day war and Iran cannot get caught up in that again. Prepare.
 
Iranian missiles and the proxies combined were the real deterrence. It is NOT a coincidence that Israel directly attacked Iran now after nearly half a century of very hostile relationships: Because the proxies had fallen.
But not without price, it became clear why Bibi repeats again and again that 3 main enemies of the entity are 1. Iran 2. Iran, together with Iran on third position....Hamas is very destructive and tiring for idf still, while Houthis are even more important for Iran now, but not directly connected with the fight with zionists...they are trying and no compromises, but for now they should follow from distance...

Degradation of once so powerful and well organized Hezbollah is pinnacle of their entire anti-Iranian concept, so affected by their own success, they almost replicated attempt to put Iran in second-rate factor...at best ...

This failure and betrayal of ungrateful American partners, with pictures that were unimaginable for Israel has primarily created psychological effect, demoralizing for already tired and increasingly anxious population...

BTW, this Chinese J-10 program is Israel's based program that they rejected because is cheaper for them taking already produced usa goods than own expensive line...

For Turkish part, is fair to say that Erdogan compared Bibi with Hitler, and stated that Israel is simply not strong enough for Iran... I know that their activities are mainly such statements...but still...

And for dirty insecure players like Armenia and Baku regime, they will not escape from consequences for their anti-Iranian behavior during this critical time, while other neighbors were mainly neutral...

Better air forces and AD, more of the same monstrous missiles prepared, and waiting for next, unavoidable mistake of frustrated archenemy...

And Iranian reactivation of former proxies will come again, no first or last repeating of the circle...
 
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this will escalate again before October


Israel wants to completely dominate middleeast, they will never accept any Independent powerful nation in the middleeast, especially if they're Muslim.

Israel plan:
Round one: Attack Iran, destroy their AD systems, Ballistic missile factories, missle launchers, SAM systems. Reduce Iran ability to fire missiles. So if from 100% they can get it to 30% then it's a success.

Round Two: Destroy remaining launchers, factories etc. Before Iran fired 100 missiles a day and reduced to 8 on the last day, this time it maybe from 30 missiles to a few or no missiles fired within a few days. Israel will then completely destroy Iranian military capability to harm Israel, which means all missiles, factories, bases, nuclear facilities, SAM systems, then slowly move towards tanks, artillery etc.

Once Iran military is weak, after a few years or a decade of extreme sanctions will lead to the new generation not being happy and they WILL topple the regime. It took 10 years to topple Assad but they did it, took 10 years to make Saddam weak and then they invaded.

We are still waiting for Iran to rearm itself, but so far nothing, I don't think west and zionist will allow anyone to sell weapons to Iran.
 
I'm starting to think that Israel has some serious plans for Muharram, probably Tasu'a and Ashura. Muharram is very symbolic for the Shiite Islam and Israel loves symbolism.

If the Shiite clergy in Qom and Iraq does not issue Jihad, they're traitors. Muharram is one of the pillars of Shiite Islam and Israel is reportedly preparing to attack the only Shiite state in Muharram.
 
if we strongly suspect Israel will attack us again soon, should we wait for them to hit us hard and let them have the first mover advantage again, or do something about it first?
Attack will come, Iran must avoid to be even close damaging, and immediate devastating answer prepared, level beyond this last, that was first really devastating by Iran...

Gambling with unexpected, spectacular Iranian strike is very, very risky for Iran, and we can just imagine how msm and politicians will explain it and how could punish Iran in such case...
 
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The GBU-57 MOP seems like an overall flop, with way lower performances and piercing range than what was advertised, but i don't blame the US, this was their first attempt at making a weapon that would be able to penetrate Iran's sites, and also their first use of this bomb in a real situation
Sure...

With Desert Storm, we irrevocably changed warfare. Now, we did it again, but it is a 'flop'. We hope more militaries would take your attitude. (y)
 
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It was Rouhani and Zarif and their kind, look no further.

What did Rouhani did in the past that disadvantaged Iran much?
 
I'm starting to think that Israel has some serious plans for Muharram, probably Tasu'a and Ashura. Muharram is very symbolic for the Shiite Islam and Israel loves symbolism.

If the Shiite clergy in Qom and Iraq does not issue Jihad, they're traitors. Muharram is one of the pillars of Shiite Islam and Israel is reportedly preparing to attack the only Shiite state in Muharram.
This is why I said Iran needs to act from a MAD or Samson Option level of deterrence.

Only that can deter a trigger-happy warmongering state.
 

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