Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

It doesn't have to be "symbolic". There is still another round left.

I don't understand Khamenei's thought process, to be honest. Maybe he has cornered himself during all these years by choosing the worst people to be around him and he has no control over the country anymore.
Doesn't he understand that if the regime falls, not only he will be killed (if he stays alive until then), but his entire family will be killed too? Iran really needs the bomb to survive.
But he is not the person they present in their public discourse and politics, he could be described as moderate, even willing to take some steps back for the sake of the final agreement...

Majority of other political elites are willing to make a bomb as soon as possible...

After him Iranian official position, probably, will be much more hard-core than his position....
 
But he is not the person they present in their public discourse and politics, he could be described as moderate, even willing to take some steps back for the sake of the final agreement...

Majority of other political elites are willing to make a bomb as soon as possible...

After him Iranian official position, probably, will be much more hard-core than his position....
Whoever that has halted the military dimensions of Iran's nuclear program is a traitor.
 
Why are you quoting this troll?

Now explain to me how this is proof. If Israeli jets are based in Azerbaijani airbases, it would be impossible to hide. Are they based underground?

Didn’t Israeli jets hit Rasht? On Caspian Sea coast. Didn’t Israeli jets operate over Tehran airspace, dropping short range Jdams? They attacked Tehran daily with JDAMs. You mean they did so via Azerbaijan? There were not a single radar in Iran to pick that up in 12 days?

If there is proof, let Iran come out and say it. Are they afraid of Azerbaijan? That’s what you are saying basically.
No one said they are parked in Azerbaijan, but use AZ airspace to skip entering too deep from the west to reach Tehran, this is also what we strongly suspect they did in TP2 response to attack Tehran

They drop their ordnance from this path, and also return to Israel from this same path to avoid any AD positioned in the west

Here's how they could do it
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The radar files were probably already sent to Azerbaijan last week, this is not difficult to prove with functioning radars, they are probably already in the proofs sent to AZ
 
No one said they are parked in Azerbaijan, but use AZ airspace to skip entering too deep from the west to reach Tehran, this is also what we strongly suspect they did in TP2 response to attack Tehran

They drop their ordnance from this path, and also return to Israel from this same path to avoid any AD positioned in the west

Here's how they could do it
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The radar files were probably already sent to Azerbaijan last week, this is not difficult to prove with functioning radars, they are probably already in the proofs sent to AZ

1: He claims Israeli jets are based in Azerbaijani airbases. Read again.

2: He thinks that Israeli jets did not operate over Tehran, and used long-range stand-off weapons. This is one of the reasons why he accuses Azerbaijan. But footage of JDAMs shows that Israeli jets operated over Tehran airspace. According to Israelis themselves, with dozens of aircrafts.

3: What radar files and what proofs? You just made that up (or read some twitter account who made it up).

There have not been such a statement from Iranian government. Not president, not foreign minister, not any security branch. Pezeshkian called Aliyev and these are the words he used: “Pezeshkian urged Aliyev to investigate rumors.”. He didn’t even say that Iran will investigate such rumors (as claimed by those troll twitter accounts), but “urged Azerbaijan to do so”. To which Aliyev replied that these are false rumors.

Here you go.


Few days later Azerbaijani president recieved Iranian ambassador. Ambassador said that Iran is convinced that Azerbaijan would never let such a thing.


So where is this radar files and proofs you talk about?
 
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Symbolic attack on the Leader...

Occupying a country's capital and 'decapitation strikes' have more than symbolic values. Had Nasrallah been alive, Hezbollah would have more fight in them. But not only he, but his replacement was also killed. Recently, not only the Iranian army chief but also, reportedly, his replacement also killed.
Israelis heavily work on psychological level and that strategy is not without its merits.
 
1: He claims Israeli jets are based in Azerbaijani airbases. Read again.

2: He thinks that Israeli jets did not operate over Tehran, and used long-range stand-off weapons. This is one the reasons why he accuses Azerbaijan. But footage of JDAMs shows that Israeli jets operated over Tehran airspace. According to Israelis themselves, with dozens of aircrafts.

3: What radar files and what proofs? You just made that up (or read some twitter account who made it up).

There have not been such a statement from Iranian government. Not president, not foreign minister, not any security branch. Pezeshkian called Aliyev and I these are the words he used: “Pezeshkian urged Aliyev to investigate rumors.”. He didn’t even say that Iran will investigate such rumors (as claimed by those troll twitter accounts), but “urged Azerbaijan to do so”. To which Aliyev replied that these are fake news.

Here you go.


Few days later Azerbaijani president recieved Iranian ambassador. Ambassador said only that Iran is convinced that Azerbaijan would never let such a thing.

So where is this radar files and proofs you talk about?
I think there's more to this story. Russians just started arresting and rounding up terrorists from Azerbaijan.
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The question is why. Why are Afghans betraying Iran? The world is tribal. This is precisely why Iranians should stick with Iranians. 200 million is a significant number.
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This is good for Iran
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Is khomein significant?
I don't know, to be honest.
But I think that Iran has a missile base, there because there were reports of Israeli attacks on a missile base in Khomein during the war.
And some rumors, I reiterate "rumors", said that Khamenei was in an underground safe place in there.
 
Whoever that has halted the military dimensions of Iran's nuclear program is a traitor.

It is a collective failure starting with the 1979 revolution. You had set yourself up on a confrontational path with a Superpower then. You really didn't have any allies then or now. And you were too threatening to the West's spoilt brat to be ignored. But the clerical and the political leadership in Iran was wishy-washy about the nukes. In contrast, after the defeat in December 1971 to India, the West Pakistani leadership under Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto, had a moot in late January 1972 and on principle decided to develop nuclear weapons because Pakistani leadership thought to never ever allow India to duplicate 1971.

Well, hindsight is 20/20 but I hate to say that you have lost your chances to be a credible nuclear weapons state unless some Sugar Daddy stands behind you firmly and/or some country like North Korea gives you the nukes. if that's not the case then your best bet would be to become a formidable conventional force by propping up the proxies against Israel again, build a good air defense system, build your airforce, and above all build very powerful hypersonic missile capability to target Israel.

Perhaps a easier option would be to forget about the Middle East and look eastward. Look to Eurasia. You a peripheral Middle Eastern country; you can leave the Middle East.
 

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