Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Persian Gulf]

1. The head of security was removed....

what are you referring to? the secretary of the SNSC (Ahmadian) being replaced?

6. Missile production has been upped

what's your source for this? I would be very impressed if missile production was restored to even half the pre-war levels, the IRGC-ASF and MoD infrastructure suffered massive blows

 

[ToddE]

What proof do you need? We all have access to the same info here....How the F do you know it's business as usual if there is an upcoming second attack?
You guys don't know....neither do I.
Who here is sure we didn't acquire Chinese HQ9-B? If the answer is well, why aren't there any photos?? Then I know I'm wasting my time here.
Let's review,
1. The head of security was removed....
2. A new SNDC office was opened, Larijani, who happens to be a competent man is now heading it.
3. Larijani wasted no time, went to Iraq to sign an agreement, he then went to Lebanon as a sign of solidarity with HZ that, they will not be disarming.
4. Iran kicked out the IAEA inspection team....yes, this is productive.
5. Fordow remains closed, so we can have a credible excuse not to let them back in, at least for now, while we're formulating new policy/plan
6. Missile production has been upped, to meet demand of intensive warfare, this time they deplete the Arrow and THAADs even faster.
7. Increased military cooperation between China and Iran is underway, I included the article as source below.
8. Nuclear scientists have all been rounded up and put in safe houses.

Let's stop the bickering over bs, and get down to real productive talk/strategy.

Iran, China are increasing military cooperation and missile production, Israeli media warns

There is growing evidence of increased military cooperation between Iran and China – including missile production, a new report from Israeli media warns.

nypost.com

Larijani is a corrupt sycophant of Khamenei led circle. His recent positioning is nothing but to boost his and his mafia like family's image in front of the nation.

 

[ToddE]

I guess it is too late to send radars and air defense systems to Iraq?

Vulnerability of Iraqi airspace will be the end of IRI. There is just nothing we can do about it except for reciprocating strikes by IRGCAF. Anybody can fly in Iraq freely like a 24/7 open whorehouse, lob lofted ALBMs, ALCMs, SOWs at Iran and leave freely. IRIAF having air superiority long range fighters was the only option but Khamenei and his gang ruined it. Now Iran is suffering.

 

[Persian Gulf]

I guess it is too late to send radars and air defense systems to Iraq?

we don't have enough systems for Iran let alone to send to Iraq

 

[kastor ville]

Larijani is a corrupt sycophant of Khamenei led circle. His recent positioning is nothing but to boost his and his mafia like family's image in front of the nation.

See....this is what I'm talking about, wasting bandwidth, and energy.
Listen bro, I know who these people are, we haven't lived under a rock for the last 40 yrs...........no need to tell me who is who in Iran, what I 'm saying is I won't waste my energy trying to get a new president or head of the Sec council elected....this is what we got for now, stop the bs, and let's see what can be done in the mean time to improve Iran's chances. Jesus fking Christ!

 

[kastor ville]

what are you referring to? the secretary of the SNSC (Ahmadian) being replaced?


what's your source for this? I would be very impressed if missile production was restored to even half the pre-war levels, the IRGC-ASF and MoD infrastructure suffered massive blows

It's all over the internet....google it. My fingers are sore, talking down morons in here.
AI Overview

Ali Larijani has been appointed as the new secretary of Iran's Supreme National Security Council, replacing Ali Akbar Ahmadian. This appointment was made by Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian. Larijani previously held this position from 2005 to 2007. Ahmadian had been in the role since 2023

Your second query can be answered by the links in the post.
Yeah, yeah, I know what the sources are....so let's not even go there. I believe to be true, because they Israelis already made calls to China, and it's matter of fact, with proof. Chinese embassy had to even issue and statement.

 

[ToddE]

See....this is what I'm talking about, wasting bandwidth, and energy.
Listen bro, I know who these people are, we haven't live under rock for the last 40 yrs...........no need to tell me who is who in Iran, what I 'm saying is I won't waste my energy trying to get a new president or head of the Sec council elected....this is what we got for now, stop the bs, and let's see what can be done in the mean time to improve Iran's chances. Jesus fking Christ!

I have given up on IRI. They are a weak, Anti-Iranian, corrupt, dysfunctional, incompetent bunch whose departure from Iran might save it. My only hope is that they dont loose any part of Iran to the historical enemies of Iran.

 

[Persian Gulf]

It's all over the internet....google it. My fingers sore, talking down morons in here.
AI Overview

Ali Larijani has been appointed as the new secretary of Iran's Supreme National Security Council, replacing Ali Akbar Ahmadian. This appointment was made by Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian. Larijani previously held this position from 2005 to 2007. Ahmadian had been in the role since 2023

Ahmadian was the secretary of the SNSC not the "head of security". Esmaeil Khatib is the Minister of Intelligence and Security and he has not been replaced, despite the biggest security breaches in modern history occurring under his watch, with Israel building drone factories across Iran.

And what's your source for claiming that "Missile production has been upped"?

EDIT: Your source is an Israeli paper which claims that China is "rebuilding the Iranian capabilities". Even if this report is true, which I doubt, it does not suggest production has been upped, just that China is helping Iran restore prior production capabilities (with no indication of how complete this process is).

 

[kastor ville]

Ahmadian was the secretary of the SNSC not the "head of security". Esmaeil Khatib is the Minister of Intelligence and Security and he has not been replaced, despite the biggest security breaches in modern history occurring under his watch, with Israel building drone factories across Iran.

And what's your source for claiming that "Missile production has been upped"?

EDIT: Your source is an Israeli paper which claims that China is "rebuilding the Iranian capabilities". Even if this report is true, which I doubt, it does not suggest production has been upped, just that China is helping Iran restore prior production capabilities (with no indication of how complete this process is).

Ahmadian was the secretary of the SNSC not the "head of security". Esmaeil Khatib is the Minister of Intelligence and Security and he has not been replaced, despite the biggest security breaches in modern history occurring under his watch, with Israel building drone factories across Iran.

And what's your source for claiming that "Missile production has been upped"?

EDIT: Your source is an Israeli paper which claims that China is "rebuilding the Iranian capabilities". Even if this report is true, which I doubt, it does not suggest production has been upped, just that China is helping Iran restore prior production capabilities (with no indication of how complete this process is).

Yep, right, China is helping Iran build up their capabilities, how is that not significant?
In the context of my post I expressly mentioned SNSC.....the SNSC trumps any security individual or branch.
From AI Search
"The Supreme National Security Council (SNSC) of Iran is the country's highest body responsible for formulating and implementing national security policies. It plays a crucial role in coordinating defense, intelligence, and foreign policies to safeguard Iran's interests and territorial integrity. "

Iran turns to China for missile boost: Report

Israeli media report rising concern over China-Iran missile cooperation, with Israel prepared to take action.

www.newsweek.com

MISSILE BOOST!

 

[kastor ville]

You said:
EDIT: Your source is an Israeli paper which claims that China is "rebuilding the Iranian capabilities". Even if this report is true, which I doubt, it does not suggest production has been upped, just that China is helping Iran restore prior production capabilities (with no indication of how complete this process is).


Yeah, I'm sure they will give access to the NY times so they can plaster it on the front page, with HD pictures for US and Israel to see.

 

[kastor ville]

I have given up on IRI. They are a weak, Anti-Iranian, corrupt, dysfunctional, incompetent bunch whose departure from Iran might save it. My only hope is that they dont loose any part of Iran to the historical enemies of Iran.

Well, it's going thing you don't live there....Mate!

 

[ToddE]

Well, it's going thing you don't live there....Mate!

We are Iranians regardless of where we live. We dont want to see our nation being broken because government has no balls.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Yep, right, China is helping Iran build up their capabilities, how is that not significant?

The question is not whether or not it is "significant". The question is whether China has helped Iran to boost its missile production levels above pre-war levels (your claim). The Israeli report you presented as evidence for this assertion is not convincing.

MISSILE BOOST!

Boost compared to post-war situation ≠ boost compared to pre-war situation. Famidi?

 

[kastor ville]

We are Iranians regardless of where we live. We dont want to see our nation being broken because government has no balls.

Now take that sentiment, and post things that can boost our chances, instead of you guys posting nonsense that every halfway smart Iranian knows.
Hint: Iran's leadership is incompetent and corrupt............noted!
Iran's generals are out of touch with today's warfare strategies..........noted!
We need an Airforce.....................................................................................................Noted!
We need a coherent policy vis a vis Nuclear capability and ambitions.............Noted!
What else?
Let's make it a forum sticky so we don't have to read page after page of the usual bashing and letting of steam, venting frustrations...etc.

 

[kastor ville]

The question is not whether or not it is "significant". The question is whether China has helped Iran to boost its missile production levels above pre-war levels (your claim). The Israeli report you presented as evidence for this assertion is not convincing.


Boost compared to post-war situation ≠ boost compared to pre-war situation. Famidi?

Ahhh, ok bro............you win, they're not doing anything, we suck, we lost, let's just let the Israelis invade. I'm ready to change my name to shlomo! I also like Yoram.