Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Watandar]

where did the Israeli jets come from ? They flew all the way to the Gulf ??

 

[FUB]

You never know we may get lucky . persona non grata may be invited to Qatar for a piece deal in the very near future.

 

[OldTwilight]

اصلاح طلب ها باید ظریف رو بفرستم تا به قطری ها دیپلماسی و تنش زدایی یاد بده

 

[Ali_Baba]

It's pretty much impossible for the strike package to have gone undetected, Qatar was definitely in on the strike.

Both Jordan and Saudia Arabia were in on the attack for sure. No way IDF IAF could have gotten there without co-operation from them both ... Syria/Iraq are basked cases for sure but the Syria route is the longest route.

 

[OldTwilight]

ما باید آماده باشیم ، حالا قطری ها این رو بهانه می کنند تا توی جنگ بعدی تمام و کمال به اسراییل و آمریکا کمک کنند و بعد بهانه بیارن. که اختیاری نداریم

 

[mangekyo]

Trade routes, a massive market, a country that can create problems for the U.S. to keep them bogged down in the middle east in case they decide to take military action against one of their neighbours.

Iran also has minerals, ore.

It also has world class pharmaceuticals.

And this is exactly what we’re stuck doing now, right? Just strong enough to cause headaches, but too weak to actually become anything. Always in this in-between zone. That’s why I asked what Iran really has to offer if it wants to break out of this cycle. Without something concrete to bring to the table, we’ll always be taken advantage of. The leadership is so far up their own asses they either can’t see it, or they’re so corrupt they just don’t give a shit. We’re essentially a pawn kept on a leash.

 

[Liquidator]

The white man enjoys humiliating browns and gulfies enjoy getting humiliated. Win win (if true).

 

[OldTwilight]

The white man enjoys humiliating browns and gulfies enjoy getting humiliated. Win win (if true).

if there is no causality among qataries , then it mean they were in the game ...


snapback and another war is invertible, I hope khamenei order the building of nukes or he would be in same categories as Shah Sumtan Hossein ( the last king of Safavid )

 

[mangekyo]

No lol, low tech products you use everyday are produced somewhere, if China doesn't want to manufacture them anymore somebody will have to produce them, it could be Iran. Actually it would make Iran's economy more resilient due to increased domestic industrial capacity, would bring in foreign currency, and by having a larger role in international trade, would make it more difficult to sanction Iran.
To be clear, that's all Iran has to offer anybody, and we have even less to offer the west. US I think is the world's largest oil producer now, they have Zangezur corridor so can bypass Iran from both North and South, and is working (and failing) to increase domestic production. Iran has literally nothing to offer the west. The "education level of the people" is irrelevant, most of these diaspora success cases are citizens of other countries, they don't need to flip Iran to get them to work with them, they already have them.

Yeah but that’s the whole point, man. China isn’t some savior waiting to hand Iran an economic lifeline. They’ve shown over and over they play by US rules. The only reason they’re even buying our oil is because they get it for next to nothing and US lets them. That’s not help, that’s a controlled bleed. Same way the US let us use Iraqi banks: enough oxygen to keep us alive.

This idea that Iran could suddenly step in as the world’s new low-tech manufacturer just doesn’t hold water. No major project is going to happen without US approval, and the track record proves it.

First off, this is a non-starter, as the jews do not want anyone near them that could challenge them. The chances of switching to the west and getting built up is zero, economic strength is as much as a threat to them as military strength. The jews want the Libya/Syria solution and they control the US which controls europe. Even if that wasn't the case, like I told shapurl, if there is an example of anybody benefiting from becoming a western puppet post-Cold War, please enlighten me, because I am not aware of any such cases, especially if you're not white.

And which country is it that China has actually helped? Seriously, name one. The US at least has successful client states in Japan, South Korea, even parts of Europe that it built up because it suited their interests. Who does China have? Nobody. Same with Russia. In fact, if we’re being honest, Russia has screwed us over more times than Israel and the US combined.

Look at Korea. Same people, same resources. Which one turned into a global powerhouse, and which one is still stuck in famine? That’s the difference between being a pawn of the US vs. being a pawn of China.

 

[nang2]

Yeah but that’s the whole point, man. China isn’t some savior waiting to hand Iran an economic lifeline. They’ve shown over and over they play by US rules. The only reason they’re even buying our oil is because they get it for next to nothing and US lets them. That’s not help, that’s a controlled bleed. Same way the US let us use Iraqi banks: enough oxygen to keep us alive.

This idea that Iran could suddenly step in as the world’s new low-tech manufacturer just doesn’t hold water. No major project is going to happen without US approval, and the track record proves it.

And which country is it that China has actually helped? Seriously, name one. The US at least has successful client states in Japan, South Korea, even parts of Europe that it built up because it suited their interests. Who does China have? Nobody. Same with Russia. In fact, if we’re being honest, Russia has screwed us over more times than Israel and the US combined.

This comment shows that the definition of the world in your mind is only the west. That is the very reason why Iran got into its current situation.

 

[mangekyo]

This comment shows that the definition of the world in your mind is only the west. That is the very reason why Iran got into its current situation.

Where did I ever say the world is only the West? That’s a classic strawman. And it’s ironic you say that, because the very reason Iran got into this mess is by turning east. When we looked west, our economy was one of the fastest growing in the world. Now after looking east, we’re stuck without reliable electricity or water and drowning in poverty.

 

[nang2]

Where did I ever say the world is only the West? That’s a classic strawman.

Because you don't see anything else except those prominent ones, which are the West. Do you even see African countries? Do you see southeastern Asia? Do you see latin Americans? They are nobodies to you.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

so everybody is a legitimate target until proven otherwise!!

and 'otherwise' is a constant in a fast moving world..

every new day brings new covenant for us to follow, otherwise, face destruction!

 

[Pak-Warrior]

where did the Israeli jets come from ? They flew all the way to the Gulf ??

Same route they took which they used to attack Iran.

Flew over Jordan -> Iraq -> Qatar

They refueled over Jordanian / Iraqi airspace.


They flew in backyard / frontyard of Iran.

 

[mangekyo]

Because you don't see anything else except those prominent ones, which are the West. Do you even see African countries? Do you see southeastern Asia? Do you see latin Americans? They are nobodies to you.

Another strawman. I never said Africa, SE Asia, or Latin America are “nobodies.” Stop putting words in my mouth. My point is simple: name one country China (or Russia) has actually built up into a successful state. The US has clear examples like Japan and South Korea. Who does China have?