Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[ShapurII]

You keep imagining Putin's hand everywhere but you have no qualms about the West and their actual historic crimes including the Genocide happening right this moment. You and Idiots like you should just enjoy your miserable life in the west amongst your Zionist masters whom you adore soo much!

اگه واقعاً صداقت داری این رو بگو که چرا هر موقع روسیه در مورد پرونده هسته‌ای ایران چیزی می‌گه در نهایت دیر یا زود همون می‌شه؟

الان نزدیک ۲۲ سال هست پرونده هسته‌ای ایران جریان داشته. دستاورد این داستان برای ایران چی بوده؟ نه بمب اتم ساختیم نه توانایی تامین سوخت بوشهر رو داریم. هدف این ۲۲ سال چی بوده؟ دستاوردش چی بوده؟

باز زمانی که احمدی نژاد بود می‌گفتیم یه چرخه غنی سازی رو کامل کردیم. از ۲۰۱۳ به این ور چی به دست آوردیم؟

چرا ما باید اورانیوم غنی کنیم بفرستیم روسیه دوباره کیک زرد تحویل بگیریم از نو غنی کنیم؟ حتی اگه با آمریکا باز هم توافق می‌شد قرار بود اورانیوم غنی شده ایران فرستاده شه روسیه. چرا؟ چرا همیشه یه سمت داستان روسیه هست؟

چرا ما باید پهپادهامون رو بدیم به روسیه وقتی روسیه جاش هیچ چیزی به ایران نداده و نمی‌ده؟​

 

[Persian Gulf]

Qatar has reacted softly....as expected....all 03 Hamas negotiation team members have been killed....

actually it seems the Israeli terrorist operation totally failed and the Hamas leaders are all alive

 

[Persian Gulf]

if only it hit 20m more accurately

 

[Persian Gulf]

 

[Persian Gulf]

Arabs celebrated martyrdom of Nasrallah and fall of Assad

well now they got a small taste of the consequences of their stupidity

 

[Persian Gulf]

"This morning, the Trump Administration was notified by the United States Military that Israel was attacking Hamas which, very unfortunately, was located in a section of Doha, the Capital of Qatar."

- Trump

beyond parody. Bibi immediately came out and said it was Israel's sole decision now Trump is playing his part. all a facade to fool people. they are in total agreement behind the scenes.

 

[tower9]

I never said China is the reason Iran is underdeveloped. Don’t put words in my mouth. I was discussing with another member about a hypothetical where Iran somehow becomes a low-tech manufacturer for China, and I pointed out how stupid that is given China’s history with its allies and its obedience to US sanctions. In that kind of doomsday scenario, I said it’s simply better to choose the West since their track record of actually building up countries is stronger. Then the other guy twisted it into some nonsense about racism.

And no, Japan wouldn’t have magically re-emerged on its own after WWII—it was flattened. US protection, capital, and market access were decisive. Just look at North vs. South Korea if you think “culture alone” explains it. Same people, same resources—one side backed by China is still starving, the other backed by the US is a global powerhouse. Iran’s economy before and after switching from West to East is another clear example. The list goes on.

You are completely ignoring context and history. The world today is not the same as even five years ago let alone ten or twenty years ago. Consequently the world in twenty years will be very different.

China is not the same country as ten years ago and it has no problem challenging the US now as it seeks to establish its own system. We will see how things turn out in the next thirty years but it’s becoming clear that moving forward, countries with positive relationships with China stand to benefit while the US is cannabalizing its allies, europe and Japan are in deep decline and will probably be irrelevant or economically dead in twenty years.

 

[nang2]

"This morning, the Trump Administration was notified by the United States Military that Israel was attacking Hamas which, very unfortunately, was located in a section of Doha, the Capital of Qatar."

- Trump

beyond parody. Bibi immediately came out and said it was Israel's sole decision now Trump is playing his part. all a facade to fool people. they are in total agreement behind the scenes.

Of course it is. The world should have learned the proper way to "negotiate" with Trump by now: talk to death but never make compromises.

 

[Persian Gulf]

 

[Persian Gulf]

Of course it is. The world should have learned the proper way to "negotiate" with Trump by now: talk to death but never make compromises.

actually that doesn't work

Trump's 60 day deadline for Iran was very accurate

and he tweeted a final warning for Hamas a few days ago

his threats are very real

 

[nang2]

actually that doesn't work

Trump's 60 day deadline for Iran was very accurate

and he tweeted a final warning for Hamas a few days ago

his threats are very real

Who said it is going to work. Trump has never intended to negotiate anyway. As you said, it is just a facade. So, the rest of the world should treat it as such. Talk to death but making no compromise is not negotiation. Just like what Trump did, it is to pretend negotiation.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Who said it is going to work. Trump has never intended to negotiate anyway. As you said, it is just a facade. So, the rest of the world should treat it as such. Talk to death but making no compromise is not negotiation. Just like what Trump did, it is to pretend negotiation.

the problem is that the US and Israel can and will act proactively, while Iran will not

so talking to delay only works if you can use the time to build deterrence

 

[Persian Gulf]

 

[nang2]

the problem is that the US and Israel can and will act proactively, while Iran will not

so talking to delay only works if you can use the time to build deterrence

It is even not to delay anything. It is only to prevent blames. That is why it is a facade.

 

[Unknown987]

Is Turkey going to be next goal for Israel?

Already turmoil, Turkey with opposition parties causing mischief they want to remove the current government and align with the West.