Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[BigMela2onin]

کم کم دارم دوباره بر می‌گردم به نظر گذشته‌ام که ترجیح می‌دم کشور تو جنگ داخلی تیکه پاره بشه تا اینکه این حکومت همه چیز رو مرحله به مرحله دو دستی تقدیم کنه تا بمونه سر قدرت

واقعاً فکر می‌کردم این احمق‌ها بعد از جنگ بفهمن که چقدر حماقت می‌کردن
جنگ دو هفته دیگه می‌شه ۳ ماه که تموم شده اما هیچ چیزی فرقی نکرده
فقط ضعیف‌تر و بدبخت‌تر شدیم

از ۲۰۰۳ همین داستان هست. مرحله به مرحله عقب نشینی و خریدن تحریم‌های بیشتر
به ۱۰ هزار نفر و ۵۰ تا کشور باج دادن حتی کشورهایی که اندازه استان‌های ما هستن
مردم روز به روز دارن فقیرتر می‌شن و عمرشون تباه می‌شه سر هیچی
تنها استثنا این سال‌ها احمدی‌نژاد بود که خایه داشت
خامنه‌ای از اولش هم یه آدم ترسو و بی‌خایه بود
کشور رو دیگران براش می‌چرخوندن. رفسنجانی، احمدی‌نژاد، قاسم سلیمانی و بقیه
نه شعور و ذکاوت رفسنجانی رو داره، نه خایه احمدی‌نژاد رو، نه تفکر استراتژیک سلیمانی رو​

IR/khamenei is no better than the last Qajar shahs, they're giving up everything bit by bit and putting all their efforts into resisting structural change just to get a few more months in power. If I was a nuclear scientist I would be packing my bags right now instead of waiting for the jews to come kill me.
Would civil war be worse? I don't know anymore. Ataturk and Mao come to power in such situations, at least it might give the opportunity for decent leaders to come to power. But now I feel like such people are more likely to die in drone strikes. It seems impossible to recover at this point without a major power providing security.

 

[ShapurII]

IR/khamenei is no better than the last Qajar shahs, they're giving up everything bit by bit and putting all their efforts into resisting structural change just to get a few more months in power. If I was a nuclear scientist I would be packing my bags right now instead of waiting for the jews to come kill me.
Would civil war be worse? I don't know anymore. Ataturk and Mao come to power in such situations, at least it might give the opportunity for decent leaders to come to power. But now I feel like such people are more likely to die in drone strikes. It seems impossible to recover at this point without a major power providing security.

Nobody will provide us with security. We have to prepare for really tough times, I think.

I think we're going through a power vacuum already. The system is no longer capable of making coherent decisions. The Parliament Members say one thing, Khomeini says something else, Pezeshkian does something totally different from both. Everybody is fighting for their own survival within the system when shit hits the fan.

 

[BigMela2onin]

There is a lot going on that hasn't been reported. Strong indication Russian engineers are in Iran working on the IADS...China sending planes of equipment....not sure what, but I think we're going to see some of their air defence equipment soon. Lastly, looks like fighters are on the menu.
I said this before, the 12 day war was costly but Iran is still in tact...and the nuclear sites can eventually be rebuilt...(Or not). We have the knowledge.....this war was a great drill for Iran, now they know what they're up against, and they will now prepare for it the right way.

Very optimistic outlook. I'm not sure why Russia, who is a hardcore zio supporting state, would all of a sudden provide high end military assistance for a country that is at its weakest in decades after denying it for decades.
China might if the money is there, and I've said that we should approach them for extensive restructuring of our military, but this will take years to decades.
The nuclear program might as well be gone for good at this point, once the jews kill the last scientists involved in the current program in the coming weeks to months, you would have to be a fool to work for a country that will give you up to the IAEA in return for nothing. Any future nuclear program will be limited to foreign built and operated power plants without any domestic input, but it's likely they will demand shut down of Bushehr plant as well soon.

 

[kastor ville]

Very optimistic outlook. I'm not sure why Russia, who is a hardcore zio supporting state, would all of a sudden provide high end military assistance for a country that is at its weakest in decades after denying it for decades

Let me answer this part...Russia is helping Iran for one reason, by making Israel look bad in a confrontation, it will make the US look bad too. As long as Putin is in power, America is enemy #1. Now, if they can take out a few fighters, or drones...the Russian equipment will get accolades and some good PR, it will make the US made stuff look vulnerable. It doesn't have to make economic sense, or even geopolitical sense to help out Iran. Sometimes the gain is not tangible on the spreadsheet.
Oh, I forgot, if they're helping us, there is something else to gain for them, they can help us carry on. The next conflict can be prolonged.....which is good for both Russia and China, a prolonged war costs money, for the Israelis and the Americans, so it's a win-win for Russian and China.

Iran seeks Belarus help to restore air defense systems, Ukraine's intelligence says

"Unlike Russia, Belarus is less restricted by sanctions in the military-technical sphere and could become a channel for restoring Iran’s defense capabilities," Ukraine’s Foreign Intelligence Service r...

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Assessing Defense Cooperation Between Iran and China in the Wake of the 12-Day War | MENA Defense Intelligence Digest

Below, Hudson Senior Fellow Can Kasapoğlu offers an assessment of the growing defense ties between China and Iran. Executive Summary

www.hudson.org

 

[PakAl]

According to western sources. Iran has agreed to allow inspections of all nuclear facilities, including those bombed by Israel, iran will also have to show where the material was moved from the facilities before Israeli strike.
@Persian Gulf @ShapurII

UN nuclear chief says agreement provides for access to all of Iran's nuclear facilities

An agreement between Tehran and the U.N. nuclear watchdog provides for U.N. inspectors to access all of Iran’s nuclear facilities

www.independent.co.uk

 

[BigMela2onin]

According to western sources. Iran has agreed to allow inspections of all nuclear facilities, including those bombed by Israel, iran will also have to show where the material was moved from the facilities before Israeli strike.
@Persian Gulf @ShapurII

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UN nuclear chief says agreement provides for access to all of Iran's nuclear facilities

An agreement between Tehran and the U.N. nuclear watchdog provides for U.N. inspectors to access all of Iran’s nuclear facilities

www.independent.co.uk

Complete unconditional surrender just like Trump wanted, in exchange for... nothing!

 

[nang2]

Complete unconditional surrender just like Trump wanted, in exchange for... nothing!

That is why it is called "unconditional". If there is something to exchange, it would be a condition, wouldn't it?

 

[PakAl]

Complete unconditional surrender just like Trump wanted, in exchange for... nothing!

The least Iranian demand should have been gurantees from Usa Russia China that no attack will take place against Iran, Iran will produce nuclear energy for peaceful purposes, all sanctions removed, Iran can then triple economy in a few decades, build airforce, military etc, build new alliances.

You see the zionist are not stupid, they want to first destroy all nuclear facilities, they will then demand end of all Iranian long range missiles which can reach Israel, then slowly demand end of all missiles or may even target them and destroy after long range are destroyed. They will finally come after the regime.
This is why Iran total surrender was demanded.

 

[BigMela2onin]

Assessing Defense Cooperation Between Iran and China in the Wake of the 12-Day War | MENA Defense Intelligence Digest

Below, Hudson Senior Fellow Can Kasapoğlu offers an assessment of the growing defense ties between China and Iran. Executive Summary

www.hudson.org

• China and Iran might be on the brink of a new era of defense ties, threatening Middle Eastern stability and the United States’ interests in the region.
• There is no confirmation of a major Chinese arms transfer to Tehran. But Beijing could replace Russia as Iran’s principal defense partner in the wake of the 12-day war between Israel and Iran.
• Should Beijing decide to expand its support of Iran’s military, Tehran would have a long and comprehensive shopping list. Iran would likely seek to acquire (1) J-10C combat aircraft, (2) HQ-9 strategic air defense systems and anti-stealth radars, (3) YJ-12 anti-ship missiles, and (4) ballistic missile components to augment the partially depleted deep-strike capabilities of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC)

I'm old enough to remember the rumors of the 250 Su-30s and J-10s the IRIAF was supposed to get.

I actually looked it up, that was in 2007 lol.

The next conflict can be prolonged.....which is good for both Russia and China, a prolonged war costs money, for the Israelis and the Americans, so it's a win-win for Russian and China.

I'm not in favor of being sacrificed like Ukraine was in a prolonged conflict with anyone.

 

[Lulldapull]

The least Iranian demand should have been gurantees from Usa Russia China that no attack will take place against Iran, Iran will produce nuclear energy for peaceful purposes, all sanctions removed, Iran can then triple economy in a few decades, build airforce, military etc, build new alliances.

You see the zionist are not stupid, they want to first destroy all nuclear facilities, they will then demand end of all Iranian long range missiles which can reach Israel, then slowly demand end of all missiles or may even target them and destroy after long range are destroyed. They will finally come after the regime.
This is why Iran total surrender was demanded.

China is a joke man.......lol.......can't you tell? Who buys their weapons?

Look at our own 'nuke deterrent'.........how did that hold up during Operation Sindhoor?

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

China is a joke man.......lol.......can't you tell? Who buys their weapons?

Look at our own 'nuke deterrent'.........how did that hold up during Operation Sindhoor?

Held up good. Your cousins to the east didn't nuke you because they knew what would happen to them in return.

How have you been? Haven't seen you in awhile.

 

[Persian Gulf]

این عکس رو پونصدبار تا حالا گذاشتیم​

still not enough

 

[Persian Gulf]

According to western sources. Iran has agreed to allow inspections of all nuclear facilities, including those bombed by Israel, iran will also have to show where the material was moved from the facilities before Israeli strike.
@Persian Gulf @ShapurII

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UN nuclear chief says agreement provides for access to all of Iran's nuclear facilities

An agreement between Tehran and the U.N. nuclear watchdog provides for U.N. inspectors to access all of Iran’s nuclear facilities

www.independent.co.uk

Araghchi denied this but anyway it's buried under rubble and we can't use it anyway and made no attempt to access it so might as well reveal it

 

[Persian Gulf]

 

[Lulldapull]

Held up good. Your cousins to the east didn't nuke you because they knew what would happen to them in return.

How have you been? Haven't seen you in awhile.

Thanks for 'cunn-phurrmin' dat yous a pendu just like us in 'AZ-High country' livin it up wid dem chicano's no?......