Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

I honestly believe if it benefitted Trump, he would have done a deal with Iran at Israel's expense. Half of his voting base have turned on Israel.

Trump is too dumb, and attention span too short, to be carrying out some nefarious plan for Iran. We could have done a deal and just made it through his 4 year term.

However, he is very socially intelligent. He gets cues, he knows what is popular, how to get people to like him. Just watch. If it becomes more popular to hate Israel, Trump will flip on a dime and dump Netanyahu. Everybody hates yahoo.

He'll go "Well, Bibi is a nice guy, done alot for me, but you know, alota folks are mad at him. He's been doing some bad things over there, I tried to stop him, but he didn't listen. I said you gotta stop doin this stuff, you're hurting Israel. Well it's tough to say this, but Bibi's gotta go. He's too tough to make a deal with, I can't make a deal with him. That's why he's always bombing here and there, he doesn't wanna deal with anybody"

Trump has said similar things in the years prior to his second term.
Exactly.....living in the US gives us the perspective that's missing with the other posters here. They have abstract ideas about how the US government works, specially the foreign policy.... they're not seeing what we're seeing inside the US...heck 75% of the Americans will miss it if they're not paying attention. There is a real flux in the US-Israel relations....they're is flux in the popularity of Israel amongst the young demographic, there is a flux happening amongst the Left and center Right in Congress when it comes to Israel. And now we have Trump saying his cabinet will work with Iran.....it doesn't take a Gerorgerown grad to see what's happening.
But hey man...let's slam Iran one more time....viva Israel! Hooray !!!

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1000 bucks says the coming recession will sweep out the Repubs out of office.....and that the next president will NOT be a Republican.
Probably, but if Trump succeeds in stopping the Ukraine war, which he most likely will because that war has already become too long and both countries are getting exhausted and may very well stop their hostilities by themselves in the next 3 years, then the US economy and European economies will experience a phase of recovery after years of high inflation and unemployment after covid and Trump will get the credit for it.

But other than that, I think the polarization of the American society at this point goes well beyond economy. Pronouns & LGBTQ+ nonsense, DEI, critical race theory, feminism, immigration, the whole list of the crazy things the radical left promotes, I just don't see Americans falling for that again. One Biden was more than enough. And who the Democrats have anyway? Kamala? Everybody hates her. Clinton? The same. They have lost every sane person that once was affiliated with them over the years.

The Democrats lost everything this year. The Congress, the Senate, presidential election, their public figures, etc. They're left with a bunch of insane liberals, poor illegal immigrants and Taylor Swift. Good luck winning the votes of the American public with that.
 
It is now trending on all primary news feeds, including Reuters. I still wouldn't trust these creatures. We hope to see revenge for over one thousand Iranian civilians murdered.

Putin: Israel asked us to convey calming messages to Iran​

Where is Mohsen Reyhani?
I guess the other 300+ missiles did not fall in open fields after all.

That tiny little country.

You're too gullible to discuss politics if you actually fall for that a second time.

Last time they launched a preemptive strike, Iran and the US delegations were supposed to meet the next day and Iran was going to offer the US a whole package to resolve the nuclear issue and normalize our ties with the US after nearly half a century. Almost everybody in Iran believed that the Americans wanted to solve our differences diplomatically, including Khamenei who said that he wasn't very optimistic, but he wasn't pessimistic either. So, even Khamenei thought that the negotiations were real and didn't suspect it was a cover-up for an incoming strike.
 
You're too gullible to discuss politics if you actually fall for that a second time.

Last time they launched a preemptive strike, Iran and the US delegations were supposed to meet the next day and Iran was going to offer the US a whole package to resolve the nuclear issue and normalize our ties with the US after nearly half a century. Almost everybody in Iran believed that the Americans wanted to solve our differences diplomatically, including Khamenei who said that he wasn't very optimistic, but he wasn't pessimistic either. So, even Khamenei thought that the negotiations were real and didn't suspect it was a cover-up for an incoming strike.
What did I say? " I still wouldn't trust these creatures. We hope to see revenge for over one thousand Iranian civilians murdered."
I have dealt with the lying scum for decades. I know exactly how they operate.
The longer this goes on without a second phase, the more evidence there is that they were hammered.
I know the fanboys get triggered, especially when you realize that tiny little country is nothing but the capital for murder, rape, land theft, blackmail, cp, and cr.
 
What did I say? " I still wouldn't trust these creatures. We hope to see revenge for over one thousand Iranian civilians murdered."
I have dealt with the lying scum for decades. I know exactly how they operate.
The longer this goes on without a second phase, the more evidence there is that they were hammered.
I know the fanboys get triggered, especially when you realize that tiny little country is nothing but the capital for murder, rape, land theft, blackmail, cp, and cr.
You pretend that there's no plan for a next round of war with Iran because the Reuters has said that, which is one of the Jewish controlled media by the way.

The situation is still extremely complicated and can spiral out of control any moment. Nothing has changed. Israel does not want peace because it truly believes that it can change the Middle East with military force and they've already done that in the past 2 years. So, they will continue that aggressive policy for the foreseeable future.
 
Probably, but if Trump succeeds in stopping the Ukraine war, which he most likely will because that war has already become too long and both countries are getting exhausted and may very well stop their hostilities by themselves in the next 3 years, then the US economy and European economies will experience a phase of recovery after years of high inflation and unemployment after covid and Trump will get the credit for it.

But other than that, I think the polarization of the American society at this point goes well beyond economy. Pronouns & LGBTQ+ nonsense, DEI, critical race theory, feminism, immigration, the whole list of the crazy things the radical left promotes, I just don't see Americans falling for that again. One Biden was more than enough. And who the Democrats have anyway? Kamala? Everybody hates her. Clinton? The same. They have lost every sane person that once was affiliated with them over the years.

The Democrats lost everything this year. The Congress, the Senate, presidential election, their public figures, etc. They're left with a bunch of insane liberals, poor illegal immigrants and Taylor Swift. Good luck winning the votes of the American public with that.
You're saying exactly the same things us democrats having been saying about the Democratic party leadership, well, I have good news, there are changes afoot here as well. We have Gavin Newsome.....finally! A smart, well spoken white, straight guy!
Do you know why the dems lost 3 elections? I don't want to sound like a racist sob.....but it was the Jews in the US......hear me out, it was Debbie Wasserman Schultz.....(you like that name?) that pushed for Hillary, then we had Schumer, and Pelosi, Pelosi is Italian, but might as well be a full on zio....because she's on record saying:

Nancy Pelosi: If Capitol crumbled to ground...one thing that would remain is our commitment to Israel​


They pushed Hillary, they pushed Biden, till the debate debacle frightened the nation, then they panicked, and rammed Kamala down our throat....so yeah, you're right, they failed badly, and hopefully we'll get some traction in the party soon.
For clarity, the Jews in the media, Hollywood, have been diluting the puritan, christian norms in the country, decade by decade....I have no idea why they're so against it. The porn industry is under their control, they started pushing interracial marriage and relations on tv when I was in my teens, it was a really a big tumult at the time, then they brought the gay man, then the lesbian on tv and movies. They're also in control of the democratic party, they chose gay candidates, a lot of black women to run for office....we lost, and lost some more...why? Because America outside the coasts is not ready for a slew of gays and blacks....yeah, these guys are racist to the core. The US is probably the most racist first world nation in the world. I don't think a lot of ppl realize this. In any case, this zeitgeist is the real reason the Dems have lost so badly......they never field good candidates, they don't have good messaging......the middle population is not really smart, they need small, digestable ideas to understand.....this is what the Republicans are good at:

Drill, baby, drill....."Fight them over there, so we don't fight them here"
"Take my country back!{ and "Make American Great Again!"
The Dems had "Build back better"....lol, who remembers that?
 
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You're saying exactly the same things us democrats having been saying about the Democratic party leadership, well, I have good news, there are changes afoot here as well. We have Gavin Newsome.....finally! A smart, well spoken white, straight guy!
Do you know why the dems lost 3 elections? I don't want to sound like a racist sob.....but it was the Jews in the US......hear me out, it was Debbie Wasserman Schultz.....(you like that name?) that pushed for Hillary, then we had Schumer, and Pelosi, Pelosi is Italian, but might as well be a full on zio....because she's on record saying:

Nancy Pelosi: If Capitol crumbled to ground...one thing that would remain is our commitment to Israel​


They pushed Hillary, they pushed Biden, till the debate debacle frightened the nation, then they panicked, and rammed Kamala down our throat....so yeah, you're right, they failed badly, and hopefully we'll get some traction in the party soon.
I honestly think the Democrats are finished.
They betrayed American voters twice. As you said, Wasserman handpicked Hillary Clinton against Trump, even though Bernie Sanders had most likely won the democratic nomination and HRC was not that popular. Next time in 2024, they didn't even bother to go through the nomination process. They forced Biden to drop out of the race and imposed Kamala on their voters, who couldn't even form a coherent argument against Trump.

I don't know much about Gavin Newsom, but I think California isn't that popular as a state among Americans. It's the birthplace of "pink-haired communists" and Hollywood liberal propaganda at its finest. It's everything that the Americans hate. Lax immigration, high income tax, radical liberalism, weird feminist laws in family courts, billionaires and celebrities trying to control everything, etc. Also, I don't think the way California handled the wildfires helps his image either.
 
I honestly think the Democrats are finished.
They betrayed American voters twice. As you said, Wasserman handpicked Hillary Clinton against Trump, even though Bernie Sanders had most likely won the democratic nomination and HRC was not that popular. Next time in 2024, they didn't even bother to go through the nomination process. They forced Biden to drop out of the race and imposed Kamala on their voters, who couldn't even form a coherent argument against Trump.

I don't know much about Gavin Newsom, but I think California isn't that popular as a state among Americans. It's the birthplace of "pink-haired communists" and Hollywood liberal propaganda at its finest. It's everything that the Americans hate. Lax immigration, high income tax, radical liberalism, weird feminist laws in family courts, billionaires trying to control everything, etc. Also, I don't think the way California handled the wildfires helps his image either.
You need to hear Gavin Newsome speak......he's a smart, educated Trump, something we sorely lack in the Democratic party.
By the way, CA is fuking powerhouse within the US
A POWERHOUSE!
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You need to hear Gavin Newsome speak......he's a smart, educated Trump, something we sorely lack in the Democratic party.
By the way, CA is fuking powerhouse within the US
A POWERHOUSE!
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Here he is on Iran and Israel......now, remember he doesn't want to catch heat by talking smack about Israel before even being a candidate....because here they will go back to High School to see if the candidate said anything bad, about people or Israel.
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You need to hear Gavin Newsome speak......he's a smart, educated Trump, something we sorely lack in the Democratic party.
By the way, CA is fuking powerhouse within the US
A POWERHOUSE!
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Sure, CA is a powerhouse. If it were an independent sovereign state, it would've been the world's 7th largest economy. CA is a powerhouse, but hated by the most Americans at the same time. It's been a blue state for far too long, its policies are extremely leaning towards the left all the time.

Gavin is just saying those things about California as those things are his achievements. He didn't create the Silicon Valley, which is where most of these Fortune 500 companies come from. And besides all this, Gavin Newsom is still pro Israel, right? So, how's that a good thing for us Iranians?
 
What else do you think a person like me can do?
Do you expect me to get my hands on fissile material and develop a nuke in my apartment and send it to faithful soldiers in the Army or the IRGC?
No, but we didn't expect you to call Arican countries poor just because they didnt align with Iran in their UN votong..Just saying..
 
Iran is free.

Test some ICBMs and a nuke and be done with it.
Hmmm.....

You know what Iran actually needs? To reactivate and energize its regional Shia militias!!

Look at it- Obama needed JCPOA because US and NATO couldn't contain the Shia militias that were potent and active in the middle east, and it seems Iran hushed those militants to give space for negotiations with the west, meanwhile those Shia militias were an effective pressure on western forces In the ME, and israel most likely won't have attacked Iran if US knew the regional Shia militias beholden to Iran were active and willing to attack and battle US soldiers in the region.
Iran knew the west would attack it without its militias, and thats partly why it built them up in the 1st place.
Iran has to go back to its 90s to early 2010s MO in the region. Without the Shia militias on standby to pressure western troops, that job has now passed back to the IRGC and Artesh.
 
Sure, CA is a powerhouse. If it were an independent sovereign state, it would've been the world's 7th largest economy. CA is a powerhouse, but hated by the most Americans at the same time. It's been a blue state for far too long, its policies are extremely leaning towards the left all the time.

Gavin is just saying those things about California as those things are his achievements. He didn't create the Silicon Valley, which is where most of these Fortune 500 companies come from. And besides all this, Gavin Newsom is still pro Israel, right? So, how's that a good thing for us Iranians?
I'll leave you with another one of my idioms.....(what's more Persian than that):
You're "missing the cheese for the holes"
CA is an admired state......they're envied by most other states, they have great weather, sun and surf, and mountains.....money, chicks and glamour. Of course the Rednecks in Alabama hate them..lol. But, Gavin Newsome will decimate the Repubs in a debate. Not only that, he has some great ideas. I think the US economy will go tits up by the 2nd quarter of 2026, believe me, I hope I'm wrong, I have a lot of money in the stock market. I've already cashed out 30% of my investments, I'll keep that cash on the sideline, it helps me sleep better at night.
 
Iran to join the Abraham Accords: Trump
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Trump here is implying that a succesful regime change operation will take place against Iran soon.
 
It is now trending on all primary news feeds, including Reuters. I still wouldn't trust these creatures. We hope to see revenge for over one thousand Iranian civilians murdered.

Putin: Israel asked us to convey calming messages to Iran​

Where is Mohsen Reyhani?
I guess the other 300+ missiles did not fall in open fields after all.

That tiny little country.
I fear Trump and Netanyahou are planning another attack , Putting is part of the cast.
 

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