For what its worth, Iranian media sources are IMO the worst.
Iran launches Operation True Promise - massive missile/drone strikes across Israel, Israel allegedly responds with quadcopters
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Persian Gulf
INT'L MOD
new information is still coming out about interception rates etc so I am inclined to keep it open a bit longer
Garcia Sea
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The Patriots deployed to Israel are only up to the old Config. 2, and Config. 3, which has the operational capability of MIM-104F (PAC-3), has not been exported.
However, it has been reported that parts equivalent to Config. 3 have been exported and PAC-3 capability has been added in Israel.
In any case, since PAC-3 has almost no maneuverability in the atmosphere and no high-altitude interception capability, it originally does not have the capability to intercept MarV.
It is rather surprising that two of the eight old Patriots that were scheduled to be decommissioned successfully intercepted MRBM in the terminal phase.
However, it has been reported that parts equivalent to Config. 3 have been exported and PAC-3 capability has been added in Israel.
In any case, since PAC-3 has almost no maneuverability in the atmosphere and no high-altitude interception capability, it originally does not have the capability to intercept MarV.
It is rather surprising that two of the eight old Patriots that were scheduled to be decommissioned successfully intercepted MRBM in the terminal phase.
Flotilla
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from earlier lie claims of "most got shot down"
quickly changed in to "blame americans"
Israel says its going to get rid of all its American made anti ballistic and cruise missile defense systems because "They failed badly against iranian missiles"
they were stationed around their air bases that got hit. ( leaving out though in those reports that also arrow systems were stationed there and they failed too, putting the entire blame on US made systems )
Woah!!! Shareholders must be very worried about that!!!. Hey @F22fighter don't pour your money on those dishonests ungrateful guys!!!
tsunset
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"Our drones, numbering about 130, were launched, the majority of which belonged to us, and between two and three were sent by our allied forces. We also launched missiles carrying explosive warheads, a large number of which deflected the air defenses from their path.
I will not talk much about the number of hits we targeted, but out of 17 missiles, 15 hit their targets, meaning 89 percent. The whole west was there, and we delivered an important message to the world."
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So 130 drones and 17 "missiles"? To take with a pinch of salt as it is an anonymous sources
17 is realistic for BMs, 130 drones is doable
If this is true, these numbers are somewhat realistic to what we have seen in the aftermath and missing boosters
I will not talk much about the number of hits we targeted, but out of 17 missiles, 15 hit their targets, meaning 89 percent. The whole west was there, and we delivered an important message to the world."
@Immortals
So 130 drones and 17 "missiles"? To take with a pinch of salt as it is an anonymous sources
17 is realistic for BMs, 130 drones is doable
If this is true, these numbers are somewhat realistic to what we have seen in the aftermath and missing boosters
Champion
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I always doubted the "500 drones and missiles launched" headline by Global News sources during the hysteria, even several hunred sounded off. Given the multination effort in defense of the Zionist Enclave; IRGC aerospace did an amazing job.
Iran can fire off way more if they chose to but they didn't do it. Only a handful needed to be launched in order to both get through the worlds most advanced and dense network of IADs (reinforced by A SuperPower/regional states) and send the intended message.
If we operate under the assumption that relatively few long-range weapons were indeed launched altogether. Any follow up response by Iranian missile forces would have truly been devastating for Israel, without question.
lightning f57
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Reports seem to be giving the apartheid state and genocide coalition's ABM's a bad name. We are going from near 100% interception to only 25% of US interceptors doing anything.
UKBengali
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It has been 3 weeks since Iran attacked the entity and promised even more powerful blows against the occupiers if Iranian targets are hit outside Iran again.
No more attacks from the entity in Syria tells you all you need to know about the lack of success in intercepting the advanced Iranian ballistic missiles.
Persian Gulf
INT'L MOD
They realised they totally misjudged Iran's calculations and their assessment of Iranian strategies and limits were totally wrong. And that the US would not support them in any attack against Iran. And how vulnerable they are to Iranian missiles even with 5 countries supporting them. Back to the drawing board.
Mehdipersian
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He did not say anything about the number of cruise missiles. He also did not say the number of ballistic missiles that were fired to deceive air-defense .
I guess Iran's attack was as follows:
30 cruise missiles
30 ballistic missiles
( about 15 were to deceive the air defense)
130 shahed 136 drones (again to deceive the air defense)
Immortals
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Would give it more than 3 weeks before you declare mission accomplished.
Iran/Israel go into lulls. And Iran has reportedly done another rotational pull of advisors out of Syria. Need to see the next 3 -6 months to see what will happen.
The question is next time 2-3 high ranking IRGC officers decide to huddle together to smoke Hookah and eat kabobs in Damascus, will Israel attack or refrain? That’s when it will be clear if deterrence has been established or not.
tsunset
The Legend
Anonymous source says as follow:
17 missiles
130 drones
I would say 7 CM
10 BM
or 17 BM
If true this would be mean 10%-15% interception of ballsitic missiles and the rest pumped up with drones interception
Immortals
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Who told you first on here that the number of missiles launched was a lie? Who told you the number was likely less than 30?
No 30 CMs, No 110 BMs, not even 100 drones (MP is lieing).
You will see in time.
Persian Gulf
INT'L MOD
we know consulates/embassies are a red line but we don't know that IRGC forces outside of consulates in Syria (etc) are also a red line. iran claimed they would be but we know iranian red lines are very flexible and iranian officials can't really be trusted.
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