Iranian Chill Thread

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great summary of Iran's strategic objectives and strategies

one of the comments: "Wow. I am an Iranian living in Iran and this made me look at things from a different perspective. Excellent video"
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This is a "cunning and evil Iran" propaganda.
 
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how ?
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The end with "Iran destroys other country and bring misery into countries and people it has its proxies in" is characteristic of CENTCOM and Yahoodi Wahabi propaganda

Nonetheless the rest is right, but the end segment was absurd and filled with American propaganda
 
Missile technology one of the best in the world:

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this guy bought 0.5m resolution imagery of Nevatim and Ramon

he only identified one good hit in Nevatim, which he says has bigger damage in the better resolution imagery than in the imagery released so far. that's the hit where debris spread c. 200m away and damaged a C-130. either the missile was aiming for the runway (in which case it hit it exactly) or was aiming for the C-130s, in which case it missed by c. 200m but still did some damage to the target. he identifies one more hit on an apparently unused concrete pad in Nevatim.

he only identifies one impact in Ramon "just outside a hangar".

seems as though the other missiles impacted in open areas (he did not buy imagery for the open areas around the base structures). whether that was the intent or whether the missiles missed their targets by hundreds of meters, only the IRGC knows

NB. He didn't buy imagery of anything in the Golan Heights, a target there was apparently struck too.
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This guy is a typical Youtube liar that claims to have data about something everyone wonders about and follow a typical CENTCOM agenda of "It sUcKs", on every subject there is this son of bastard on Youtube claiming to be an insider but "cannot post the proof", so unless he proves to people what he says, he is this typical Youtube pseudo-researcher liar
 
22s/35s, whatEVER:

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Pompeo told to Iran:
1) withdraw from Syria, leave Iraq and Lebanon and Yemen alone
2) don't build nuclear weapons
---and US will lift all sanctions, restore diplomatic relations and Iran will become a normal country.

Pompeo said: "be a normal country like Norway."

But it seems like Iran doesnt want to be like Norway, it wants to be like Persian Empire.

Iran is a country with the second longest imperial history in the world after China.

Iran makes enormous economic sacrifices for achieving its dream of obtaining nuclear/ICBM capability and ruling the Middle East.

Iran does it because of both 1) Khomeini's Islamic ideology 2) and Iran's glorious past and desire to restore Iran as a Great Power one more time.

Today Iran rules 4 Arab states in the Middle East with combined population of 100mln people:

1) Today Iraq is balancing between the status of a satellite state and a vassal state of Iran. Ministry of Intelligence of Iran has penetrated all segments of Iraq's society and Iran has its agents from the bottoms of Iraq's society to the tops of Iraq's Parliament, Government, Military and the Office of the Prime Minister. Iran unofficially occupies Iraq with its Shia Militias that are directly controled by Iran's Ministry of Intelligence and IRGC. Probably, democratic institutions left by Americans will not survive in the future and Iran will try to turn Iraq into a Shia theocracy.

2) Syria's Bashar Assad is isolated from Turkey, USA, Europe and the Arab World and fully relies on Iran for his survival. Iran deployes military bases on Syrian soil and Syria has a net debt of 30bln$ to Iran and for this debt Assad will give all natural resources and sovereignty of Syria to Iran. Syria is now a vassal state of Iran.

3) Hezbollah is the dominant force in Lebanon with an armed strength of 100.000 troops. Hezbollah is 100% loyal to Iran.

4) Houthis control most of Yemen and deploy Iranian weapons in the Straight of Bab-el-Mandeb. Houthis are close allies of Iran and some like Prince Turki al Faisal even claim that the Houthis movement has its roots in Iran's Intelligence services.

5) Other targets of Iran's expansion in the future can include Jordan with its Islamic opposition, Saudi Arabia with its 5mln Shias, Bahrain with its majority Shia population and other countries of the Persian Gulf.

Iran tries to expand and wants to rule the Middle East because of Islam and because of its desire to make Iran the center of the Muslim world.

Can Iran become a Great Power?

1) By 2050 Iran will have a population of 100mln people. That is more than any country in the European continent except Russia and any country in the region of Middle East and North Africa except Egypt.

2) Today the total number of troops in the militaries of the countries of the Axis of Resistance (Iran and its sphere of influence) is 1,2mln troops (Iran's 650K+Iraq's 150K+Syria's 150K + Hezbollah's 100K + Houthis 100K). Axis of Resistance can become an Islamic military block under Iran's control- something like Islamic Warsaw Pact in the Middle East with a combined armed strength of 1,2mln troops.

3) Iran can join the elite club of nuclear and ICBM powers in this decade

4) Iran's military industry will become fully developed and Iran will be among few countries of the world that are capable of producing any type of weapons and with Souroush-1 and Souroush-2 Iran will be in the elite club of space powers

5) Iran will dominate the Middle East and will have imperial sphere of influence in Iraq/Syria/Lebanon/Yemen and possibly in other countries of the region in the future. Combined population of the Iran dominated Axis of Resistance is 190mln people today and will be 250mln people by 2050.

6) Iran already deploys military assets in the Straight of Hormuz (20% of world oil) and the Straight of Bab-el-Mandeb (12%-15% of world maritime trade)

7) By 2040 Iran will become a major transit country of the New Silk Road developed by China with major railway line of the New Silk road passing through Iranian territory

8) Economies of South Asian countries like Pakistan and India are growing 5% a year and in the future they will need more energy for their development and it is logical that they will get most of their gas from Iran. This will turn Iran into a major gas supplier to 2bln people in South Asia and South Asian countries will be fully dependent on Iran for their energy by 2050

Combination of these 8 points will turn Iran into an influential power in the future.

Some quotes about Iran:

1) Zbigniew Brzezinski: "Iran is a nation with an impressive imperial history, and its people have a sense of national pride." (from the article with Robert Gates "Don't Attack Iran")

2) Henry Kissinger: "A magnificent culture, a powerful bureaucratic apparatus, and several incarnations of the Persian Empire have made Iran feel unique, not as one of many." (from the book "World Order")

3) George W. Bush: "We respect Iran. We respect the great history of Iran. But we want Iran to be a democratic country." (from an interview with VOA)

4) Vladimir Putin about Iran:
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Pompeo told to Iran:
1) withdraw from Syria, leave Iraq and Lebanon and Yemen alone
2) don't build nuclear weapons
---and US will lift all sanctions, restore diplomatic relations and Iran will become a normal country.

Pompeo said: "be a normal country like Norway."

But it seems like Iran doesnt want to be like Norway, it wants to be like Persian Empire.

Iran is a country with the second longest imperial history in the world after China.

Iran makes enormous economic sacrifices for achieving its dream of obtaining nuclear/ICBM capability and ruling the Middle East.

Iran does it because of both 1) Khomeini's Islamic ideology 2) and Iran's glorious past and desire to restore Iran as a Great Power one more time.

Today Iran rules 4 Arab states in the Middle East with combined population of 100mln people:

1) Today Iraq is balancing between the status of a satellite state and a vassal state of Iran. Ministry of Intelligence of Iran has penetrated all segments of Iraq's society and Iran has its agents from the bottoms of Iraq's society to the tops of Iraq's Parliament, Government, Military and the Office of the Prime Minister. Iran unofficially occupies Iraq with its Shia Militias that are directly controled by Iran's Ministry of Intelligence and IRGC. Probably, democratic institutions left by Americans will not survive in the future and Iran will try to turn Iraq into a Shia theocracy.

2) Syria's Bashar Assad is isolated from Turkey, USA, Europe and the Arab World and fully relies on Iran for his survival. Iran deployes military bases on Syrian soil and Syria has a net debt of 30bln$ to Iran and for this debt Assad will give all natural resources and sovereignty of Syria to Iran. Syria is now a vassal state of Iran.

3) Hezbollah is the dominant force in Lebanon with an armed strength of 100.000 troops. Hezbollah is 100% loyal to Iran.

4) Houthis control most of Yemen and deploy Iranian weapons in the Straight of Bab-el-Mandeb. Houthis are close allies of Iran and some like Prince Turki al Faisal even claim that the Houthis movement has its roots in Iran's Intelligence services.

5) Other targets of Iran's expansion in the future can include Jordan with its Islamic opposition, Saudi Arabia with its 5mln Shias, Bahrain with its majority Shia population and other countries of the Persian Gulf.

Iran tries to expand and wants to rule the Middle East because of Islam and because of its desire to make Iran the center of the Muslim world.

Can Iran become a Great Power?

1) By 2050 Iran will have a population of 100mln people. That is more than any country in the European continent except Russia and any country in the region of Middle East and North Africa except Egypt.

2) Today the total number of troops in the militaries of the countries of the Axis of Resistance (Iran and its sphere of influence) is 1,2mln troops (Iran's 650K+Iraq's 150K+Syria's 150K + Hezbollah's 100K + Houthis 100K). Axis of Resistance can become an Islamic military block under Iran's control- something like Islamic Warsaw Pact in the Middle East with a combined armed strength of 1,2mln troops.

3) Iran can join the elite club of nuclear and ICBM powers in this decade

4) Iran's military industry will become fully developed and Iran will be among few countries of the world that are capable of producing any type of weapons and with Souroush-1 and Souroush-2 Iran will be in the elite club of space powers

5) Iran will dominate the Middle East and will have imperial sphere of influence in Iraq/Syria/Lebanon/Yemen and possibly in other countries of the region in the future. Combined population of the Iran dominated Axis of Resistance is 190mln people today and will be 250mln people by 2050.

6) Iran already deploys military assets in the Straight of Hormuz (20% of world oil) and the Straight of Bab-el-Mandeb (12%-15% of world maritime trade)

7) By 2040 Iran will become a major transit country of the New Silk Road developed by China with major railway line of the New Silk road passing through Iranian territory

8) Economies of South Asian countries like Pakistan and India are growing 5% a year and in the future they will need more energy for their development and it is logical that they will get most of their gas from Iran. This will turn Iran into a major gas supplier to 2bln people in South Asia and South Asian countries will be fully dependent on Iran for their energy by 2050

Combination of these 8 points will turn Iran into an influential power in the future.

Some quotes about Iran:

1) Zbigniew Brzezinski: "Iran is a nation with an impressive imperial history, and its people have a sense of national pride." (from the article with Robert Gates "Don't Attack Iran")

2) Henry Kissinger: "A magnificent culture, a powerful bureaucratic apparatus, and several incarnations of the Persian Empire have made Iran feel unique, not as one of many." (from the book "World Order")

3) George W. Bush: "We respect Iran. We respect the great history of Iran. But we want Iran to be a democratic country." (from an interview with VOA)

4) Vladimir Putin about Iran:
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9) Iran will land on the Sun
 
GWXP said:
Pompeo told to Iran:
1) withdraw from Syria, leave Iraq and Lebanon and Yemen alone
2) don't build nuclear weapons
---and US will lift all sanctions, restore diplomatic relations and Iran will become a normal country.

Pompeo said: "be a normal country like Norway."

But it seems like Iran doesnt want to be like Norway, it wants to be like Persian Empire.

Iran is a country with the second longest imperial history in the world after China.

Iran makes enormous economic sacrifices for achieving its dream of obtaining nuclear/ICBM capability and ruling the Middle East.

Iran does it because of both 1) Khomeini's Islamic ideology 2) and Iran's glorious past and desire to restore Iran as a Great Power one more time.

Today Iran rules 4 Arab states in the Middle East with combined population of 100mln people:

1) Today Iraq is balancing between the status of a satellite state and a vassal state of Iran. Ministry of Intelligence of Iran has penetrated all segments of Iraq's society and Iran has its agents from the bottoms of Iraq's society to the tops of Iraq's Parliament, Government, Military and the Office of the Prime Minister. Iran unofficially occupies Iraq with its Shia Militias that are directly controled by Iran's Ministry of Intelligence and IRGC. Probably, democratic institutions left by Americans will not survive in the future and Iran will try to turn Iraq into a Shia theocracy.

2) Syria's Bashar Assad is isolated from Turkey, USA, Europe and the Arab World and fully relies on Iran for his survival. Iran deployes military bases on Syrian soil and Syria has a net debt of 30bln$ to Iran and for this debt Assad will give all natural resources and sovereignty of Syria to Iran. Syria is now a vassal state of Iran.

3) Hezbollah is the dominant force in Lebanon with an armed strength of 100.000 troops. Hezbollah is 100% loyal to Iran.

4) Houthis control most of Yemen and deploy Iranian weapons in the Straight of Bab-el-Mandeb. Houthis are close allies of Iran and some like Prince Turki al Faisal even claim that the Houthis movement has its roots in Iran's Intelligence services.

5) Other targets of Iran's expansion in the future can include Jordan with its Islamic opposition, Saudi Arabia with its 5mln Shias, Bahrain with its majority Shia population and other countries of the Persian Gulf.

Iran tries to expand and wants to rule the Middle East because of Islam and because of its desire to make Iran the center of the Muslim world.

Can Iran become a Great Power?

1) By 2050 Iran will have a population of 100mln people. That is more than any country in the European continent except Russia and any country in the region of Middle East and North Africa except Egypt.

2) Today the total number of troops in the militaries of the countries of the Axis of Resistance (Iran and its sphere of influence) is 1,2mln troops (Iran's 650K+Iraq's 150K+Syria's 150K + Hezbollah's 100K + Houthis 100K). Axis of Resistance can become an Islamic military block under Iran's control- something like Islamic Warsaw Pact in the Middle East with a combined armed strength of 1,2mln troops.

3) Iran can join the elite club of nuclear and ICBM powers in this decade

4) Iran's military industry will become fully developed and Iran will be among few countries of the world that are capable of producing any type of weapons and with Souroush-1 and Souroush-2 Iran will be in the elite club of space powers

5) Iran will dominate the Middle East and will have imperial sphere of influence in Iraq/Syria/Lebanon/Yemen and possibly in other countries of the region in the future. Combined population of the Iran dominated Axis of Resistance is 190mln people today and will be 250mln people by 2050.

6) Iran already deploys military assets in the Straight of Hormuz (20% of world oil) and the Straight of Bab-el-Mandeb (12%-15% of world maritime trade)

7) By 2040 Iran will become a major transit country of the New Silk Road developed by China with major railway line of the New Silk road passing through Iranian territory

8) Economies of South Asian countries like Pakistan and India are growing 5% a year and in the future they will need more energy for their development and it is logical that they will get most of their gas from Iran. This will turn Iran into a major gas supplier to 2bln people in South Asia and South Asian countries will be fully dependent on Iran for their energy by 2050

Combination of these 8 points will turn Iran into an influential power in the future.

Some quotes about Iran:

1) Zbigniew Brzezinski: "Iran is a nation with an impressive imperial history, and its people have a sense of national pride." (from the article with Robert Gates "Don't Attack Iran")

2) Henry Kissinger: "A magnificent culture, a powerful bureaucratic apparatus, and several incarnations of the Persian Empire have made Iran feel unique, not as one of many." (from the book "World Order")

3) George W. Bush: "We respect Iran. We respect the great history of Iran. But we want Iran to be a democratic country." (from an interview with VOA)

4) Vladimir Putin about Iran:
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World is changing so fast , specially our part of world.

If rise of China and decline of USSR were the most important events of last century could it be rise of India and decline of Europe and/or US topic of current time ?

If it is then maybe we should review what happened in early stages of India from 2000 till today once again.

In early 2000 US invaded Afghanistan and Iraq.
Today India has good relationship with both Taliban in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Due to NATO advancements , Iran built up nuclear capabilities. (maybe to the scales that under normal conditions it wouldn't go that far )

China agreed to sanction platform. ( possible preventing another headache on top of nuclear Pakistan )

Russia (G8 member) agreed to it. (nowadays they call it G7 group:) )

And the most interesting vote came from India(most influential member of Non-Aligned Movement at the time )
in favor of sanctioning Iran and possible road map to another invasion.

Now Iran has two options : 1)be full nuclear state 2)building up conventional capabilities

According to western sources Iran abandoned nuclear desires.(2003-2005)

Conventional path :
With limited resources the best you can do is rebuilding your ports and buying Arms from outside.

Iran's biggest trading partner is China and getting everything from China will make Iran heavily dependent on one source. This makes Russia more valuable

Russia is and has been exporting Su-27/30 to friendly countries.And India's deal with Russia (up to 300 Su-30 and local production to some extend) make it almost impossible for Iran to acquire some badly needed tools.(maybe due to objection of India to Pakistan-Iran connection )

So far India's vote and her previous deal with Russia blocked Iran's nuclear and conventional capabilities.

And third "coincidence" comes from regional issues which ended in water shortage,illegal immigration and security issues in eastern part of Iran which has it's own positive and negative effects but again role of India is undeniable here too.


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I hope both Iran/Pakistan and Russia follow corridor with open eyes.
 
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PDF used to be first/best source (English language) of compiled information on Iranian def capabilities yet somehow another competition with exclusive access is on the rise !!!
 
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