Iranian Chill Thread

[muhammed45]

no it was not , it is just a facility to enrich uranium nothing more

Well then the conclusion of your claim and what happened after complete implementation of JCPOA by Iranian side, would be that our planners were bunch of clueless idiots to build a nuclear facility almost 100 meter under the ground and waste billions of dollars on it. And you as a nobody just like me know more than tens of our nuclear scientists. I must suggest government to kick them out and hire me and you. Yeah, Fordow was a headache just a useless nuclear enrichment shithole just like the smelly oil during Qajar rule that we had to get rid of. Zarif should have turned Fordow into a toilet. What say you? A toilet built to be out of reach and resistive against bombardment. A toilet worth billions of dollars


And according to people like you my friend, we had to get rid of the whole nuclear program since it was a headache.

انرژی هسته ای ۲۰۰ تومن بسته ای نه؟

Damn history badly repeats itself.

 

[Hack-Hook]

Well then the conclusion of your claim and what happened after complete implementation of JCPOA by Iranian side, would be that our planners were bunch of clueless idiots to build a nuclear facility almost 100 meter under the ground and waste billions of dollars on it. And you as a nobody just like me know more than tens of our nuclear scientists. I must suggest government to kick them out and hire me and you. Yeah, Fordow was a headache just a useless nuclear enrichment shithole just like the smelly oil during Qajar rule that we had to get rid of. Zarif should have turned Fordow into a toilet. What say you? A toilet built to be out of reach and resistive against bombardment. A toilet worth billions of dollars


And according to people like you my friend, we had to get rid of the whole nuclear program since it was a headache.

انرژی هسته ای ۲۰۰ تومن بسته ای نه؟

Damn history badly repeats itself.

building it under ground was to keep it safe not because it was our Honor or anything else , we are building many things under ground are they also have the same meaning

and it was not a useless shit hole , it was a tool for achieving a means . and as many time said JCPOA was all establishment agreement not Zarif but you guys have some phobia of him and think he threaten you so try to blame him for anything.
if JCPOA was bad why they are still negotiating it , is it bad that if Iran manage to skirt on its border for one a year more then they can't put Iran under article 7 without agreement of some peoples beloveds (China and Russia) again ?

 

[Hack-Hook]

And according to people like you my friend, we had to get rid of the whole nuclear program since it was a headache.

no that's you guys fallacy , when have no valuable argument

 

[muhammed45]

building it under ground was to keep it safe not because it was our Honor or anything else , we are building many things under ground are they also have the same meaning

and it was not a useless shit hole , it was a tool for achieving a means . and as many time said JCPOA was all establishment agreement not Zarif but you guys have some phobia of him and think he threaten you so try to blame him for anything.
if JCPOA was bad why they are still negotiating it , is it bad that if Iran manage to skirt on its border for one a year more then they can't put Iran under article 7 without agreement of some peoples beloveds (China and Russia) again ?

No it wasn't. I agreed with your statement. It was just a useless tool that brought sanctions with it and a headache. We had to give it away.

Zarif didn't sign JCPOA you are right, Khamenei signed it with Kerry. As you can see, I am not denying your claims.

And the Majlis should have revolted against government and should have never honoured Zarif's signature.

Btw, Zarid signed JCPOA and other governments shouldn't honor his signature again because Khamenei signed it not Zarif.

Hey wait, Khamenei had written JCPOA.

Don't you see the paradox in what you yourself say?

Your beloved FM signed an agreement and his colleague Salehi swore in Majlis that sanctions will be lifted right after approving JCPOA by the MPs and suffering of our people will end in a blink of an eye. Damn, Khamenei asked Salehi to swear it in Majlis. What a forgetful mind I have.

no that's you guys fallacy , when have no valuable argument

Yeah you have a valuable argument by downgrading and undermining a secret and multi billion dollar project called Fordow that was meant to keep us a nuclear threshold country and defend us against foreign threats. That was just a tool, damn it wasn't that important. A toilet that we got rid of thankfully and thanks to Zarif the FM of بزباش

 

[Hack-Hook]

Zarif didn't sign JCPOA you are right, Khamenei signed it with Kerry. As you can see, I am not denying your claims.

And the Majlis should have revolted against government and should have never honoured Zarif's signature.

Zarif didn't sign shit without getting approval from top, you think why negotiation took several year
and that's the duty of Majlis and Guardian council if they see treason as you claim

No it wasn't. I agreed with your statement. It was just a useless tool that brought sanctions with it and a headache. We had to give it away.

no its another of your fallacy , i never said it was useless , I clearly said it is a tool with its use. now we must see why you try to attribute that lie to me , maybe because we have different political view !?

Hey wait, Khamenei had written JCPOA.

if you want to be a clown , feel free

Don't you see the paradox in what you yourself say?

I see paradox in what you say , i see changing history in what you say . , the fact remain that zarif never signed anything without checking with his bosses and after that , Majlis, Government , Guardian council and Supreme National Security Council agreed to it . you want to deny it go ahead nobody stop you , we believe in freedom of expression .

Your beloved FM signed an agreement and his colleague Salehi swore in Majlis that sanctions will be lifted right after approving JCPOA by the MPs and suffering of our people will end in a blink of an eye. Damn, Khamenei asked Salehi to swear it in Majlis. What a forgetful mind I have.

did he swore ? no he didn't, and did they told that to guardian council , no they didn't if the traitorous parliament didn't spent 10 min before approving it (yes they literally spent 10 min for approval and guess what , the same guy today approved ad head of Majlis again) go blame them , if the guardian council didn't do its job go complain to them , if the Supreme National Security Council failed to do its job go complain to them , zarif only tasked with reaching a deal , a deal that your beloved jalili could not even negotiate and in each sitting he only talked about history and a deal that all system agreed to it before hi sign . have you forget in last to week how many time he come back to Iran and went back to sit at the negotiation table , he is simply a diplomat that when Iran wanted a deal , Iran sent him , be it JCPOA or the End of war with Iraq or...
you guys are so afraid of him that start attack him before any election while he didn't even announced his candidatory

Yeah you have a valuable argument by downgrading and undermining a secret and multi billion dollar project called Fordow that was meant to keep us a nuclear threshold country and defend us against foreign threats. That was just a tool, damn it wasn't that important. A toilet that we got rid of thankfully and thanks to Zarif the FM of بزباش

you guys are so funny that you forget it was not a secret when foreigner saw it iran announced it years before and us satellite pointed it before iran announced it

 

[Persian Gulf]

look at the situation that Larijani today's is considered a moderate

indeed but in fairness Larijani has positioned himself closer to moderates for quite a few years now

many Rouhani and Khatami ministers will be involved (Jahangiri, Zarif?, Jahromi and some less well known ones) but they will probably withdraw to unite around one candidate

the reality is if they let any non-hardliner run, and the moderates unite around them, that candidate will likely win

I like Ghalibaf but he is ruled out now. Maybe Mohsen Rezaee will finally win!

 

[Hack-Hook]

Maybe Mohsen Rezaee will finally win!

he has a record of loosing
honestly he has a military history and many prefer a civilian .

 

[jauk]

Kheyli mamnoon ke bad az arab parasti yek tavajoh kochaki ham be zabani besiar zibaye parsi ham dashtin.

He's been saying these for ages. Same with many IRI officials. IRI, by far, has been the highest flag-bearer of Iran and the Persian language. Nobody has come close. As for 'arab-parasti', these comments only come from the victimized and weak. I welcome the diversity of the language and the people. I welcome the diversity of Iran's foreign policy and friends. That's what's kept us and keeps us strong.

 

[Hack-Hook]

for people who are afraid Zarif want to become president , well he already announced he will not participate .
and everybody favorite (Jalili) who previously single handedly resulted in defeat of conservatives want to participate

 

[Persian Gulf]

he has a record of loosing
honestly he has a military history and many prefer a civilian .

personally I would only vote for a reformist like Aref or a IRGC technocrat guy like Saeed Mohammad, but fat chance they will let them run

50% chance it will be Larijani, 30% chance Jalili (closest replacement to Raisi), 20% someone else.

 

[jauk]

for people who are afraid Zarif want to become president , well he already announced he will not participate .
and everybody favorite (Jalili) who previously single handedly resulted in defeat of conservatives want to participate

Zarif almost certainly would've been rejected by the Guardians Council. And the traitor knows that. Him not running is a red herring.

 

[Hack-Hook]

personally I would only vote for a reformist like Aref or a IRGC technocrat guy like Saeed Mohammad, but fat chance they will let them run

50% chance it will be Larijani, 30% chance Jalili (closest replacement to Raisi), 20% someone else.

I doubt about that 20% but for presidency I also doubt they let Aref or Saeed Mohammad
I believe country need new blood not the usual suspects , they already tried and failed times and times .

but honestly presidency is political suicide in Iran , it destroy your popularity and approval.
the only president that we had and nobody dare to bad mouth him was Martyr Rajaee and you must count his presidency days not months. Raeesi harmed his popularity a lot when tried the job. when he was head of judiciary system everyone liked him , he could easily be next supreme leader without a single opposition, but after 3 year of presidency ,.......

 

[Hack-Hook]

Zarif almost certainly would've been rejected by the Guardians Council. And the traitor knows that. Him not running is a red herring.

if he is a traitor course be upon the people who must arrest and punish him (AKA all branch of our intelligence system and judiciary system included IRGC and intelligence ministry) but refrain from doing it.

now can you enlighten us about this supposed treason

 

[muhammed45]

Zarif didn't sign shit without getting approval from top, you think why negotiation took several year
and that's the duty of Majlis and Guardian council if they see treason as you claim

no its another of your fallacy , i never said it was useless , I clearly said it is a tool with its use. now we must see why you try to attribute that lie to me , maybe because we have different political view !?

if you want to be a clown , feel free

I see paradox in what you say , i see changing history in what you say . , the fact remain that zarif never signed anything without checking with his bosses and after that , Majlis, Government , Guardian council and Supreme National Security Council agreed to it . you want to deny it go ahead nobody stop you , we believe in freedom of expression .

did he swore ? no he didn't, and did they told that to guardian council , no they didn't if the traitorous parliament didn't spent 10 min before approving it (yes they literally spent 10 min for approval and guess what , the same guy today approved ad head of Majlis again) go blame them , if the guardian council didn't do its job go complain to them , if the Supreme National Security Council failed to do its job go complain to them , zarif only tasked with reaching a deal , a deal that your beloved jalili could not even negotiate and in each sitting he only talked about history and a deal that all system agreed to it before hi sign . have you forget in last to week how many time he come back to Iran and went back to sit at the negotiation table , he is simply a diplomat that when Iran wanted a deal , Iran sent him , be it JCPOA or the End of war with Iraq or...
you guys are so afraid of him that start attack him before any election while he didn't even announced his candidatory

you guys are so funny that you forget it was not a secret when foreigner saw it iran announced it years before and us satellite pointed it before iran announced it

Anyways, the main point remains unseen. Zarif is not just a character in politics but also he is a line of thought.

I hope in the next elections, we don't vote for people like him.

JCPOA wasn't only Zarif's fault, people thought that agreement with 5+1 will solve all the issues. But it didn't. It just increased the quantity and quality of our problems. lol

Ahmadinejad's stupidity was refusing every kind of negotiations. We have to avoid having an other Ahmadi or Rouhani.

Whoever Zakani and Jalili are, they are much better than corrupt Hemmati and other leeches. Hemmati is money printing machine. His actions led to continuous devaluation of Rial.

 

[jauk]

if he is a traitor course be upon the people who must arrest and punish him (AKA all branch of our intelligence system and judiciary system included IRGC and intelligence ministry) but refrain from doing it.

now can you enlighten us about this supposed treason

We’ve had this exchange before. I cannot explain how he was able to pull this crap. But everything he did was not only not implemented (fortunately) but head on against Iranian national interests. Same with khak bar sar boss Rowhani.