Iranian Chill Thread

[Persian Gulf]

Their language is full of Persian words. Whether Azeri or Turkey

Its a Zionist plan to remove Persian words from Azeri and Turkish language. You repeat them in an other way.

Instead of falling in the same trap, you have to insist on mutual points and defend Persian language by criticizing their actions not falling in the same plan.

For example in France they learn German and Visa verse. While we know that some elements in France are of German origin and Hitler made them his excuse to invade France and Poland.

I repeat myself, Iran is Iran because of tolerance and diversity . History gas proved that tolerant people always prevail not the racist or fascist bunch.

this is a reasonable perspective

but the fact remains that it is not true that 40% of Iranians speak Turkish and it is not racist to want to promote common culture/language to unify people around a shared identity. there are many ways to do that and I emphasis that it is not about ethnicity, iran is a proud melting pot of ethnicities with a huge degree of genetic variation

 

[Persian Gulf]

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highest since 2019. but this chart really shows the impact of Trump's 'maximum pressure' sanctions: from $50B to under $10B in 3 years

 

[jauk]

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highest since 2019. but this chart really shows the impact of Trump's 'maximum pressure' sanctions: from $50B to under $10B in 3 years

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Good. I hope Iran never ever exports a drop of oil. Or ANY non-value add product.

 

[muhammed45]

this is a reasonable perspective

but the fact remains that it is not true that 40% of Iranians speak Turkish and it is not racist to want to promote common culture/language to unify people around a shared identity. there are many ways to do that and I emphasis that it is not about ethnicity, iran is a proud melting pot of ethnicities with a huge degree of genetic variation

You are supposed to lead us bro. Be a leader not a soldier.

Leave fighting to us

 

[Arash]

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can we *deal with* this guy and all other pan turks ?

Don't give a shit mate,
30% of Turkey people speak Kurdish as their first language as well.
15% of Azerbaijan people speak Talysh/Tat
You can find diversity everywhere...
And if those are in the mood to attack us one day, so be it. We'll finish the job fast enough for them to regret it

 

[Mehdipersian]

The goal of Turkey and Azerbaijan with these strange percentages is that they are seeking separatism.

About 18% of Iranian people know Turkish and about 10% know Kurdish languages.

But this is not important at all because Azerbaijanis and Kurds are Iranian ethnic groups and they can speak persian too. I am writing this for foreigners who wish to break up Iran

 

[Mehdipersian]

I don't think that he said something like that. Iranians are known to Turkish language is much different to Iranians are of Turkish origins.

You are writing in English, does that make you someone of English origin? You may speak in multiple languages, it doesn't make you lose your origins.

On the contrary speaking in different languages makes your mind stronger and also gives you more skills.


Well well. @Mehdipersian read this part.

Now you resort to name calling.

Pan turk , without nationalism or maybe as you try to portray a traitor.

The umah is the concept of beauty:
"All races and languages and differences are not important. The only thing that is important is to be a good man and Muslim,"

I love this concept more than nationalism, but nationalism is not a bad thing. Nationalism If became racism is bad.

Nationalism is a great concept if it means to love your country and sacrifice for it

 

[Sarhang]

The umah is the concept of beauty:
"All races and languages and differences are not important. The only thing that is important is to be a good man and Muslim,"

I love this concept more than nationalism, but nationalism is not a bad thing. Nationalism If became racism is bad.

Nationalism is a great concept if it means to love your country and sacrifice for it

100%

 

[HamidAgha]

Muslim fanatics are the greatest threat to Irans culture and identity.

Well in recorded history, it was Islam that revived Iran twice from the brink of self-destruction. I think it better use of time if you considered the treacherous nature of Iranians to their ownselves as well as rampant corruption as bigger threats than Islam and Muslims.

 

[jauk]

The umah is the concept of beauty:
"All races and languages and differences are not important. The only thing that is important is to be a good man and Muslim,"

I love this concept more than nationalism, but nationalism is not a bad thing. Nationalism If became racism is bad.

Nationalism is a great concept if it means to love your country and sacrifice for it

NOT at the expense of the downtrodden and justice. Nationalism is more often than not base jingoism than anything of positive value. For the simplistic. I keep away from it. The IRI should strive for being that shiny star in the sky for everyone and for all angles and perspectives. THAT is the Iranian way. THAT is 'nationalism'.

 

[HamidAgha]

I will always call out threats to Iran, from Israel and the USA to internal traitors and diaspora useful idiots. It's not an ethnic issue. Iran is a land of many ethnicities and languages, but we need some unifying factors as well and to not allow people to serve causes hostile to Iran.

Agreed, especially with regards to the anglicication of Iranian television or media, for example. However what you wrote there has nothing to do with what you posted earlier where it came across as you taking issue with Iranians speaking Turkish. Iranians can speak whatever language they please, especially if it is ethnically their language, and that has no indication on "threats". I wouldn't want anyone to imply that I'm a threat for speaking Farsi whilst living in Europe, and neither would you.

 

[Sarhang]

Well in recorded history, it was Islam that revived Iran twice from the brink of self-destruction. I think it better use of time if you considered the treacherous nature of Iranians to their ownselves as well as rampant corruption as bigger threats than Islam and Muslims.

In recorded history it were the muslims that invaded Persia and enslaved the population. I can name you several documented massacres of Iranians at the hands of Muslims.

I guess i prefer rampant corruption than a huge alien force invading my nation enslaving and raping.

And funny that when i mentioned muslim fanatics you were the first one to reply so defensively

 

[HamidAgha]

In recorded history it were the muslims that invaded Persia and enslaved the population. I can name you several documented massacres of Iranians at the hands of Muslims.

I guess i prefer rampant corruption than a huge alien force invading my nation.

And funny that when i mentioned muslim fanatics you were the first one to reply so defensively

Yes of course I will defend Islam! In case you hadn't known there are many Muslims on this forum. And yes Islam trumps nationalism any day of the week.

Anyway, well, Persia also invaded lots of nations as well, so how does that make any other nation less in your eyes without also shining a bad light on Iranian history? And no the Rashidun Caliphate did not enslave the entire Iranian nation. Hyperbolic lies like that is purely pathetic and futile, especially when the history is clear. Many of the Iranians actually converted to Islam by the sheer amazement of the justice, humility and fairness of Islam, and the others became dhimmis, paying the jizya. The Muslims even gave the Zoroastrians an autonomous enclave in Tabaristan to rule themselves. No evidence of mass enslavement, other than the defeated combatants.

Lets look at the state of Iran before the two times Islam came into contact with Iran. Before the Rashidun conquest, Persia was crumbling from internal feudalism and mistrust between the parthian families. They had gotten badly defeated by Rome and had to give humiliating tribute to Rome for the first time in a long while.

Fast forward to the 70s where there was a brutal dictator in the Shah who favoured some sections of his public more than others, and created economic division as a result. He had also sold out to the west and once he got backstabbed did he make the usual defiant statements that more dictators make towards the end of their reign. You saw the same with Ghaddafi and Saddam.

So in both situations, Islam came and revived the country and restored it back on the correct path, away from the brink of destruction. And yet, instead of all this, you prefer Iran to be corrupt and sold out to American?! Madness

Please can you share the documented massacres of the Muslim armies? Give me dates and names of battles, please.

 

[MLK]

In recorded history it were the muslims that invaded Persia and enslaved the population. I can name you several documented massacres of Iranians at the hands of Muslims.

I guess i prefer rampant corruption than a huge alien force invading my nation enslaving and raping.

And funny that when i mentioned muslim fanatics you were the first one to reply so defensively

Islam is an ideology, Arabs invaded Persia. Also Persians adopted Islam and overthrew the Arab nationalist Ummayad empire and reigned supreme ever since. Islam is a huge part of Iranian history and a part of its culture and identity. Culture is not stagnant it's always developing especially over a period of 1400 years. It's like saying Roman Catholicism is not a part of Brazilian or Argentinian Identity and culture.

Also note is that Shia Islam differs from Sunni Islam on the concept of nationalism, In Sunniism it's discouraged and is seen as some form of shirk. In Shia Islam serving ones nation is seen as a form of Ibadah (worship to god). Dying for ones nation/country is a great honor and one is considered a Shaheed ( Martyr).

Also Twelver Shi'ism as a whole is inseparable from Iran and Iranian tradition. In the wider Muslim world Shiites are seen and called as Majoos/Magus (Zoroastrianism)

Shia tradition of fire plays in Karbala