Iranian Foreign & Resistance Front Strategy & Operations

Assuming a unit cost of $5-$10 million dollars for an Iranian-manufactured MRBM that travels 2,000 km
Simorgh with its two stages of 4 vernier engines costs $3.5m per launch but you think a comparatively tiny Kheibar Shekan missile with one engine costs $10m?

as I said, you are too ideological on these points these days so there is no point discussing.
 
Simorgh with its two stages of 4 vernier engines costs $3.5m per launch but you think a comparatively tiny Kheibar Shekan missile with one engine costs $10m?

as I said, you are too ideological on these points these days so there is no point discussing.
I said $5-$10 million. But what would your estimate be for Palestine-2? Would $2 million dollar sound fair to you?

I'm just saying that our economy cannot afford this sort of peace-time missile launches. We should save money for the real war, if you believe a war is likely in 2025.

I personally think that Israel will never do anything without complete coordination with the US. If we reach a deal with the US, the chance of an Israeli military strike is negligible.

P.S. You know quite well that my preferred choice is not negotiating over our nuclear program, but there seems to be a consensus within the system, even some conservatives, that the US wants to mend ties with Iran.
 
I said $5-$10 million. But what would your estimate be for Palestine-2? Would $2 million dollar sound fair to you?

I'm just saying that our economy cannot afford this sort of peace-time missile launches. We should save money for the real war, if you believe a war is likely in 2025.

I personally think that Israel will never do anything without complete coordination with the US. If we reach a deal with the US, the chance of an Israeli military strike is negligible.
IRGC is very very cheap and almost always goes for the cheaper option. I really doubt it's even $1m per missile. Pretty sure Hajizadeh a while back suggested they cost much less than even that. They produce every part of the missile in huge numbers and never use the most expensive materials.
 
IRGC is very very cheap and almost always goes for the cheaper option. I really doubt it's even $1m per missile. Pretty sure Hajizadeh a while back suggested they cost much less than even that. They produce every part of the missile in huge numbers and never use the most expensive materials.
IRGC exaggerates a lot. These are the same people that talked about achieving a CEP of 5m more than 10 years ago. The same people that said over 200 American soldiers had died in Ain Al-Assad.
The only thing that is way less expensive in Iran is labor. Every other factor is more or less similar to the rest of the world. Probably 20% or 25% cheaper, but not 90% cheaper.
 
IRGC exaggerates a lot. These are the same people that talked about achieving a CEP of 5m more than 10 years ago. The same people that said over 200 American soldiers had died in Ain Al-Assad.
The only thing that is way less expensive in Iran is labor. Every other factor is more or less similar to the rest of the world. Probably 20% or 25% cheaper, but not 90% cheaper.
IRGC uses cheaper materials and methods too. And produces in bulk. We saw the images of hundreds of first stage boosters for KS/Fattah stacked up outside the production buildings. You think the same IRGC which needs to sell land to afford a space program is stacking up billions of dollars of boosters on a monthly basis?

They have Mohajer-10, Shahed-139, Shahed-147, and Shahed-149 but still prefer to use Mohajer-6 and Shahed-129. They are very cheap
 
Here's the deal: the bigger the rocket, the cheaper it is to send 1kg of stuff into space. That's just physics, can't argue with it.
For a big boy like the Falcon 9, you're looking at less than $3,000 to get 1kg into LEO.
Now, switch to a super small rocket, like China's Kuaizhou-1A, and that cost jumps to just under $10,000 per kg. And that's with China being super competitive on price globally; even they can't make small rockets cheap.
Then you've got one of the world's tiniest launch rockets, Japan's SS-520, where the cost per kg skyrockets to a whopping one million bucks!

So, the Kheibar Shekan rocket weighs about twice as much as the SS-520, but it's only about 1/15th the weight of the Kuaizhou-1A.
Even if Iran's labor costs are dirt cheap, you're probably still looking at a cost several times to maybe even ten times higher than the Kuaizhou-1A.

Now, let's imagine you take a two-stage rocket that could launch 1kg into LEO, but instead, you use it as an MRBM (Medium-Range Ballistic Missile) with a 1500km range. The payload for that scenario would be about 60kg.
So, if we assume the warhead is 500kg, and we use the Kuaizhou-1A's cost as our baseline (let's call it 1x), here's how the relative costs and actual expenses would roughly shake out:

1x (Baseline with Kuaizhou-1A): Around $80,000
5x (A realistic guess): Around $400,000
10x (The highest it could possibly be): Around $800,000
 
Israeli Air Force fighter jets dropped over 50 munitions in 30 seconds in the strike that eliminated Hamas leader Muhammad Sinwar in southern Gaza on May 13, according to the military.
 
Here's the deal: the bigger the rocket, the cheaper it is to send 1kg of stuff into space. That's just physics, can't argue with it.
For a big boy like the Falcon 9, you're looking at less than $3,000 to get 1kg into LEO.
Now, switch to a super small rocket, like China's Kuaizhou-1A, and that cost jumps to just under $10,000 per kg. And that's with China being super competitive on price globally; even they can't make small rockets cheap.
Then you've got one of the world's tiniest launch rockets, Japan's SS-520, where the cost per kg skyrockets to a whopping one million bucks!

So, the Kheibar Shekan rocket weighs about twice as much as the SS-520, but it's only about 1/15th the weight of the Kuaizhou-1A.
Even if Iran's labor costs are dirt cheap, you're probably still looking at a cost several times to maybe even ten times higher than the Kuaizhou-1A.

Now, let's imagine you take a two-stage rocket that could launch 1kg into LEO, but instead, you use it as an MRBM (Medium-Range Ballistic Missile) with a 1500km range. The payload for that scenario would be about 60kg.
So, if we assume the warhead is 500kg, and we use the Kuaizhou-1A's cost as our baseline (let's call it 1x), here's how the relative costs and actual expenses would roughly shake out:

1x (Baseline with Kuaizhou-1A): Around $80,000
5x (A realistic guess): Around $400,000
10x (The highest it could possibly be): Around $800,000
$400,000 sounds reasonable and in line with Hajizadeh's prior comments.
 
Israel admits 3 IDF terrorists killed and 2 more injured as IED explodes under Humvee in Jabalia, north Gaza

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Israel hides its true casualties

Former Israeli defense minister said 15.000 IDF troops were wounded in Gaza


If you have 15.000 wounded soldiers, there must be another 5000 dead.

So total casualties of the IDF is 20.000 kafir troops.

Huge number for a small apartheid regime
 
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2 grad rockets fired from Syria land in occupied Golan Heights

Yemen fires 3rd ballistic missile in 3 days at Israel, reports that Israel fired 6 interceptor missiles

now rocket alerts in north Israel too (shrapnel? more rockets from Syria?)

and earlier today a Hamas unit used a drone to drop a bomb on an IDF unit in Gaza, reportedly killing 1 IDF terrorist and injuring 3-5 more
 
1 IDF terrorist liquidated and 4 more injured in north Gaza yesterday

A Resistance fighter opened fire on IDF terrorists in Gaza City, killing 1 and seriously injuring another IDF terrorist. The Resistance fighter successfully managed to flee after the operation.

Separately, the Resistance used a drone to drop a grenade on IDF terrorists in Jabalia, injuring 2 IDF terrorists and 1 Shin Bet officer.
 
Israel hides its true casualties

Former Israeli defense minister said 15.000 IDF troops were wounded in Gaza


If you have 15.000 wounded soldiers, there must be another 5000 dead.

So total casualties of the IDF is 20.000 kafir troops.

Huge number for a small apartheid regime
we know 1200 killed and 7000 injured on the first days

and since then around 470 killed in Gaza and probably at least 2000-3000 injured (should assume at least 5:1 injured to killed ratio)

so c. 1700 killed and 10,000+ injured (with varying levels of injury) sounds right to me, around 12,000+ casualties (total, not just IDF)
 

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