Iranian Foreign & Resistance Front Strategy & Operations

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US is very aggressive

another attack on Iran is inevitable. IRI cannot hide and wait it out this time


They are trapped, they can either wait and face small scale attacks to destroy nuclear/missiles facilities or attack the zionists, this will then unite western world and big chance of full Nato attack on Iran. I would choose option one, work towards security deal with China Russia in return for friendship, alliance, resources, military base, as long as Iran sovereignty and independence is protected, change international policies, stop the agreesive speeches and threats, build up your airforce, navy etc, intergrate with Chinese systems. The future is about combined network of air defence, awaacs, airforce, satellites etc. So even if a nation builds 5th generation plane, its still not enough these days. Israel uses Nato network or atleast gets information passed on to it. Iranian safety and security comes first, especially being threatened by nuclear powered nations.
 
Iran needs to review its military strategy if it is attacked again. At present, the cost of any conflict to the countries that participate alongside Israel is very low, which is why they feel like they can join and leave attacking Iran at will and at not cost to them.

Iran needs to work out a way to impose a significant cost on those countries, such that there is some level of deterrence built up with those countries through Iran's military responses. The previous strategy of restraint and defensive mindset does not seem to be working. Israel won't be restrained or deterred easily, but other countries that are "allies" that have lower tolerances for the cost of conflict and local politics that would prohibit more active participation, can force their governments to pull back if it becomes "hot" for them.

Iran should not place any restraints on itself again, if it is attacked. The cost has to be real.

Yes build 100 nukes, anyone dares to eliminate Iran, will also go down with Iran. End of story.
 
Yes build 100 nukes, anyone dares to eliminate Iran, will also go down with Iran. End of story.
Hey a dozen will do it to be fair even after the first test of a crude device no one is bombing Iran anymore openly at least sanctions are already there there is no more threat of attack they have already been attacked and countries are saying they are going to attack sooner than later better to go all out before they can bring about enough troops from nato and yes sorry to say Arab countries that will also do Israel’s biddings in case of all out war and Israel will watch from the sidelines keeping their hands clean
 
No because it didn’t happen, just rumors and possible psych ops.

The F-35 isn’t invisible, it can be picked up by certain wavelength high powered radars but the probability you detect it (based on its frontal RCS) is somewhere around 35KM from the radar, which from a battlefield sense is kind of useless since it would drop its payloads well before you can get a lock. So what makes detecting the F-35 challenging is not detecting it, but detecting it at far enough range to actually prevent it from attacking your radars/defenses/completing its mission.

So hypothetically if Houthi’s detected it 10km from the radar installation, it’s not impressive. Its physics.

This is without F/35 engaging in avoiding radar envelopes or jamming or ECW from AWAC planes.



Again it’s physics.

Radar wavelength vs object meant to absorb or distort as much of the wavelength as possible to avoid flowing back to the radar. None of this means anything we don’t already know.

Iran struggled shooting down Heron drones with RCS well north of 2.0 m^2 that Hezbollah was shooting down with large success in South Lebanon. But now you think it can go up against even 100 F-35’s?



You are making the F-35 some secret weapon. As if one F-35 is lost it ends American air dominance. It is getting replaced in 5-10 years as the next gen 6th gen fighters roll out.

F-22 and B-2’s would be used on high risky targets and F-35’s would be used on softer targets or once air dominance has been established.

You are doing mental gymnastics to justify why U.S. won’t strike Iran.



So far US bombed Iran’s entire nuclear program and Iran fired some missiles at one base doing small damage.

You seriously think IRGC is going to go sink an aircraft carrier or level military command in Bahrain/Qatar? When they didn’t even do that to Israel? When they didn’t do that when their entire nuclear program went up in flames?



The US is building F-15’s package for Israel at the cost of $8B dollars. It has plenty of money to throw at war. Just look at Ukraine.

The amount of money they will make from controlling Iranian oil, gas, and natural resources once a puppet government is installed will be well worth it.
Who will pay the war?. Israel?, Saudí Arabia?, Russia?.

In his first tenure he left Afganistán. Then Yemen and inmediately cut all military relevant military assistance to Ukraine. And with Venezuela that has nothing similar to Iranian ballistic missile power, drones and cruise missiles is day after day more obvious that he won't invade Venezuela. All they have It is two dozens of Su30 and some very well known S300.

I agree that shooting down an F35 is more than challenging. But the key are patterns. As soon the start entering inside Iranian airspace IRGC and they fly predetermined routes to attack IRGC will displace systems capable to track them. For Houthies took years, but they managed to shoot down Ef2000 (at least 2 of them), F15 (some of them), F18E, F16 and challenged a US carrier to the point to make a complete withdrawn.

You don't need to shoot down a half of dozen, even 2 of them. Just one, and all military propaganda of invulnerability will fall. US is at the brink of the Split, like Israel. How would react the public oppinion in NBC or Fox when iranians boasts wreck of a F35 or some F15 inside Iranian soil?. Or even worse some pilots down in Tehran streets like Hanoi?.
 
Who will pay the war?. Israel?, Saudí Arabia?, Russia?.

In his first tenure he left Afganistán. Then Yemen and inmediately cut all military relevant military assistance to Ukraine. And with Venezuela that has nothing similar to Iranian ballistic missile power, drones and cruise missiles is day after day more obvious that he won't invade Venezuela. All they have It is two dozens of Su30 and some very well known S300.

I agree that shooting down an F35 is more than challenging. But the key are patterns. As soon the start entering inside Iranian airspace IRGC and they fly predetermined routes to attack IRGC will displace systems capable to track them. For Houthies took years, but they managed to shoot down Ef2000 (at least 2 of them), F15 (some of them), F18E, F16 and challenged a US carrier to the point to make a complete withdrawn.

You don't need to shoot down a half of dozen, even 2 of them. Just one, and all military propaganda of invulnerability will fall. US is at the brink of the Split, like Israel. How would react the public oppinion in NBC or Fox when iranians boasts wreck of a F35 or some F15 inside Iranian soil?. Or even worse some pilots down in Tehran streets like Hanoi?.
Agree you don’t have to shoot down an f 35 over Iranian skies when you can blow up a few airbases that are next door a lot easier for Iran to do that than with Israel and we still don’t know exactly what material damages Israel lost probably won’t find out for years.

Do I think Iran has the ability to damage or even destroy an aircraft carrier yes I do might not be the easiest task but Iran can fire off a lot more waves than Houthis could ever do hypothetically destroy dozens of aircraft on the deck even if they don’t destroy an aircraft carrier

Only thing I disagree trump actually doesn’t care anymore regarding endless wars he wants to make a name for himself be it “Nobel peace prize winner” or just man of war destroying what he wants no matter the cost of American lives
 
Yes I think they will. Modern warfare isn't all rhetoric and emotions. The Turks are building a world class military - something that Iran should have done instead of antagonizing vastly superior economic and military powers in its region.
The Turks unlike the Persians do not issue poetic words of retribution while neglecting preparation and strategy. They are quietly building up their military and it will come to head in the future over Syria. You can mark my words here. You guys are so busy waging some notional holy war against the Israelis and can't see the trees from the forest.
I used to think just like you, but countries act in their strategic calculus even against so called "allies." This has been one constant thing of our world. The Soviets and Nazis were allies to get rid of a common threat. The Turks gave you an out to come to terms with the Syrian issue but you chose to ignore them, when the smart money would have been to patch things up with the Sunnis while tackling the Israelis - but you rather befriend the Hindus and the Orthodox scums to fight against your own co-coreligionists, and look where it got you. You were beaten like a dead horse across the region, your allies depleted and defeated, and your influence no longer there. Even so that it seems the Israelis are regretting beating you because now they have to deal with a much more powerful and clever enemy backed by real military power [Pakistan], with access to modern weapons and tactics. The Israelis will come to peace with the AoR in order to have them be the counter-balance against the ascending Sunni powers of the region ie Saudi-Turkey. Was it worth it? You couldn't even deal with counter-intel at home letting the enemy set up shop right under your noses. Best to take a knee now and get rid of the idiotic system that's basically Shah in Islamic garb. This is me - A Shia saying it.
You could have just concentrated on being a Middle Eastern Germany, but had to start beef with everyone, thereby allowing outsiders to enter the region and divide it up.
@Persian Gulf - don't ban me for saying the above - it seems like some of your countrymen haven't learned a damn thing over the past two years. Iran is light years behind Israel and America. All that rhetoric of confronting them, and couldn't even set up effective strategy.
Turkey hasn't done shit for the Muslim world...as bad as Iranian government is, I will keep our chin high in the air regarding what we've done for Arabs and Muslims.....look around you, Turkey is US's bitch. Look at SA, UAE, Qatar, Kuwait....these guys are an embarrassment to the region and our collective religion.
 
Who will pay the war?. Israel?, Saudí Arabia?, Russia?.

Do you realize how U.S. raises money? They issue bonds. Iran is the one shutting down large amounts of its schools and society to conserve energy because it’s too cold and they have problem keeping the lights on. You think the U.S. is the one that has to pinch pennies?

This is not logical analysis.

In his first tenure he left Afganistán. Then Yemen and inmediately cut all military relevant military assistance to Ukraine. And with Venezuela that has nothing similar to Iranian ballistic missile power, drones and cruise missiles is day after day more obvious that he won't invade Venezuela. All they have It is two dozens of Su30 and some very well known S300.

He is still in Syria. He is still funding Ukraine. He funded billions for the Gaza war. Your logic of Iran’s missile prowess is not rooted in recent events that transpired.

I agree that shooting down an F35 is more than challenging. But the key are patterns. As soon the start entering inside Iranian airspace IRGC and they fly predetermined routes to attack IRGC will displace systems capable to track them.

They will fly pre-determined routes? Says who. And what systems will Iran “displace” to track F-35 when they couldn’t shoot down a single Israeli jet after 12 days? But suddenly they are going to be able to hit the USAF?

For Houthies took years, but they managed to shoot down Ef2000 (at least 2 of them), F15 (some of them), F18E, F16 and challenged a US carrier to the point to make a complete withdrawn.

Houthis dont have a country. They are a guerrilla group. Yemen is a failed state and the poorest nation in the Middle East. You are comparing an apple to a watermelon. Iran has a lot of pain points and has to feed its population and keep unrest low and nation and economy functioning.

You don't need to shoot down a half of dozen, even 2 of them. Just one, and all military propaganda of invulnerability will fall.

Did it fall when a Yugoslavia shot down a F-117? When Iraq shot down Iranian F-14 did myth of Iranian Air Force and American prowess go up in flames?

In the first Persian Gulf War, 52 fixed-wing US aircraft were shot down. In the Iraq War, 23 fixed-wing US aircraft were shot down.

You live in alternate reality. And are putting entirely too much importance on a single fighter jet.

US is at the brink of the Split, like Israel.

US is in brink of split? Toman has fallen from 1,000 to $1USD to 135,000 in 15 years

Most of the world/banks still uses dollars to facilitate international trade. Who uses the rial?

U.S. companies dominate the global stock market, how many Iranian companies dominate the globe? And you think the U.S. is the one at risk for civil war or “split”?

U.S. has its fair share of problems, but Iran is the one on life support.

How would react the public oppinion in NBC or Fox when iranians boasts wreck of a F35 or some F15 inside Iranian soil?. Or even worse some pilots down in Tehran streets like Hanoi?.

They would rally around the flag and ask for blood. So your celebration would be short lived as the entire critical infrastructure of Iran (oil terminals like Kharg island, oil refineries, ports, power plants) would be demolished in retribution.

Do you really think Iran can survive a full on shoot out with the United States? You keep comparing iran to Houthi’s or Taliban or Vietcong. They all fought as guerilla’s for years before the adversary got tired and left.

IRGC and Artesh aren’t guerrilla groups and the government of Iran is not a band of war lords and militants who can hide in mountains or jungles for years. They have a country to run and feed.

The issue is you are not thinking of the 2nd and 3rd order consequences of your action.

Iran could barely handle Israel and now you think that facing America and shooting down 1 F-35 will make America wave the white flag and run away like it’s Vietnam.

Saddam also thought in 1990 that US wouldn’t have the stomach to challenge his land grab and in return he lost most of his military. Don’t underestimate the U.S. war machine.
 
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The problem is when IRI revolution happened they were basically taken over by religious fanatics who had little state building and geopolitical experience. Not much different than the Taliban in some aspects, just somewhat less propensity to resort to violence to suppress dissent.

Then over time, the government of iran they moderated and became more pragmatic to realities on the ground. Slowly becoming more and more liberal.

However, at the start of IRI Revolution they built their entire foundation and identity on fighting America and Israel, which was very short sighted. They denounced the Europeans. This naturally made it hard to decouple from this reality without going against the fundamentals of your own revolution. As you said, you don’t get too “back out” after you pick a fight with these two powers (America/Us).

Now Iran is facing an identity crisis, if it caves to Western demands it risks the entire system collapsing on itself. If it doesn’t cave to western demands the system may still collapse within itself either

1) Economically

2) Socially

3) Militarily

The problem in the end is Iran built up tremendous power only to never use it to break free of the status quo.

No negotiations
No nukes
No war

It was the most foolish military build up and unraveling in the 21st century. History books will remember Khamenai and the leadership as ones too afraid of going to war to achieve long lasting peace. They thought they could expand across the Middle East, intefere in Arab countries affairs, conduct attacks on Israel, and just get away with it for decades until one day Israel or America simply decayed away as empires do.

Dumb strategy with no endgame.
The problem is that the deep state thought they could use proxies as leverage over the US and Israel forever. They used them as a threat to make sure the US and Israel would back off militarily, keeping Iran out of any direct war. At the same time, they used the nuclear program as another tool, knowing it would trigger more sanctions. Those sanctions then became a benefit for the deep state. They enriched themselves through sanction busting, controlled black markets, and built IRGC monopolies. They made sure there was no real foreign competition inside Iran.

Iran kept getting hit with more sanctions, but as long as the proxies existed, the country stayed relatively safe from direct military threats. The deep state knew how to crush protests and did not seriously fear regime change. From their perspective, everything was under control.

The first major crack in the mirror was when Soleimani started becoming too powerful. That is when they got rid of him. Yes, I believe IRI sacrificed Soleimani. Then they got rid of Raisi too. These were internal IRI power struggles.

Meanwhile, their kids lived lavish lifestyles, both inside Iran and in the West, while the average Iranian suffered. Life was good for the elite. They thought they could keep this going forever.

But Israel kept pushing, testing Iran’s red lines again and again, and Iran failed to respond. Eventually, Israel saw right through the strategy and went after the proxies and then IRI directly. IRI could not respond because it only had one playbook: threaten through proxies, stay sanctioned, avoid war. When that stopped working, they froze. Decision paralysis set in, and Israel kept taking advantage of it.

Even Turkey saw this weakness and used the opportunity to move into Syria. Ironically, IRI did not even know how to properly control or use its proxies without Soleimani.

Now IRI is left with no real friends, no real deterrent, and enemies on every side.
 
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Yes I think they will. Modern warfare isn't all rhetoric and emotions. The Turks are building a world class military - something that Iran should have done instead of antagonizing vastly superior economic and military powers in its region.
The Turks unlike the Persians do not issue poetic words of retribution while neglecting preparation and strategy. They are quietly building up their military and it will come to head in the future over Syria. You can mark my words here. You guys are so busy waging some notional holy war against the Israelis and can't see the trees from the forest.
I used to think just like you, but countries act in their strategic calculus even against so called "allies." This has been one constant thing of our world. The Soviets and Nazis were allies to get rid of a common threat. The Turks gave you an out to come to terms with the Syrian issue but you chose to ignore them

I agree with most of the things you said but the Iranian stragetic miscalculation or just failing to understand the world is what Iranian politics is currently facing.

I would say they are perhaps the only entity who doesn´t see the world how it should be seen due to all the miscaluclations that follow them and narratives.

Example you mentioned Turkey, but imho majority of the regional nations are way better armed then Iran and the gap will keep growing. Nations like Saudi Arabia, UAE, Egypt, Pakistan, Qatar, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Bangladesh, Algeria, Morocco, Malaysia, Indonesia etc etc all of them are already miles ahead of Iran in military armament and except BG, Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan that are slightly better but the gap will grow significiantly in the next 10 to 20 years.

Iran lost imho a whole 15 years between 2011 to 2024 including 2025 with just insignificiant wars.

What they don´t understand is the most simple thing and majority of their judgement is clouded by Israel. Everything Israel this or that. Israel is irrelevant and tiny nation plus did you not see Nethanyahu had to go to the US to take permissions or are you blinded to that?

They blame nations like KSA, Turkey, Egypt etc etc majority of these nations haven´t gone to war for decades because they understand how the world works.

Example just like how China will never go to war prematurely until the world economy collapses hence what China is doing is it is preparing for that moment and another thing to understand is that the world only has one Boogeyman called NATO hence no nation will miscalculate or seek an immature WW3 without being fully prepared and being able to win that is what the so-called Sunnis do because they are original world players and understand the game and play along, trade with everyone and prepare silently for the next great economical collapse which will bring or force the world back to World wars. Everything else between 2nd WW2 and the WW3 is irrelevant until that first bullet goes.

But the Iranian stragetic mindset failed to understand this hence you always see them fishing from irrelevant ponds like getting to emotional about Israel and none state actors going to war here and there or proxy conflicts etc etc but Nobody wants to miscalculate against NATO including China or even Russia at this point in time.

But in another 30-years things could become different as the world technology is bound to grow and new powers may emerge and some elements who will perhaps be able to take on NATO will emerge into the world stage but at this point in time nobody can equal NATO and that includes also China and Russia even combined.

The reason Iran got whopped from 2011 to 2025 is because they misunderstood the game entirely.

Learn from the Chinese and the other nations of the world
 
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I agree with most of the things you said but the Iranian stragetic miscalculation or just failing to understand the world is what Iranian politics is currently facing.

I would say they are perhaps the only entity who doesn´t see the world how it should be seen due to all the miscaluclations that follow them and narratives.

Example you mentioned Turkey, but imho majority of the regional nations are way better armed then Iran and the gap will keep growing. Nations like Saudi Arabia, UAE, Egypt, Pakistan, Qatar, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Bangladesh, Algeria, Morocco, Malaysia, Indonesia etc etc all of them are already miles ahead of Iran in military armament and except BG, Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan that are slightly better but the gap will grow significiantly in the next 10 to 20 years.

Iran lost imho a whole 15 years between 2011 to 2024 including 2025 with just insignificiant wars.

What they don´t understand is the most simple thing and majority of their judgement is clouded by Israel. Everything Israel this or that. Israel is irrelevant and tiny nation plus did you not see Nethanyahu had to go to the US to take permissions or are you blinded to that?

They blame nations like KSA, Turkey, Egypt etc etc majority of these nations haven´t gone to war for decades because they understand how the world works.

Example just like how China will never go to war prematurely until the world economy collapses hence what China is doing is it is preparing for that moment and another thing to understand is that the world only has one Boogeyman called NATO hence no nation will miscalculate or seek an immature WW3 without being fully prepared and being able to win that is what the so-called Sunnis do because they are original world players and understand the game and play along, trade with everyone and prepare silently for the next great economical collapse which will bring or force the world back to World wars. Everything else between 2nd WW2 and the WW3 is irrelevant until that first bullet goes.

But the Iranian stragetic mindset failed to understand this hence you always see them fishing from irrelevant ponds like getting to emotional about Israel and none state actors going to war here and there or proxy conflicts etc etc but Nobody wants to miscalculate against NATO including China or even Russia at this point in time.

But in another 30-years things could become different as the world technology is bound to grow and new powers may emerge and some elements who will perhaps be able to take on NATO will emerge into the world stage but at this point in time nobody can equal NATO and that includes also China and Russia even combined.

The reason Iran got whopped from 2011 to 2025 is because they misunderstood the game entirely.

Learn from the Chinese and the other nations of the world
The most disgusting and stupid post I have read on this forum for many years. No joke. It really is.

Oh and BTW the so called countries that you mention like Egypt and Indonesia and Bahrain. They are not strategically shrewd. They are cowards to the bone and when you said "so called sunnis" understand the game, imo so called sunnis, as you termed it are quivering cowards and hence they bow, there's no brilliance to it.

Oh and looking over through the pile of garbage, I can now see that you are halfway bent like an onlyfans model as you were writing that post. Guess you are a quivering coward too.
 
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If Iran had such a spy, then why didn’t the spy tip off Iran of coming war? Why didn’t the spy tip off Iranian Top brass that the location of their C&C bunker was going to be targeted to save several generals and officers?

@Persian Gulf

Seems awfully suspicious this “news” is being broadcast on Israeli TV and the military censor allowed it. Almost like it’s fake psychops to rally the public for another war.
 
And Iran has basically put the region back 100 years with their religious wars which allowed outsiders to establish themselves in a dominant role. Congrats - you've played yourself. Best take a look at your population and how they've turned to Atheism or Secularization to escape Iran any chance they get. Why do all of you pro-Iran govt live in the West. Go back and join the IRGC.
Are you serious? We put back the region back?? Saudi Arabia just gave women the right to drive a few yrs ago....they have executions where they cut off heads in public with swords. Afghanistan with the closure of schools for women, and the taliban executing people in the street, Pakistan with their overthrow of their democraticly elected leader, and reports of human trafficking and sexual violence, and child labor camps....wtf are you talking about?
 
No wonder Israel begged for help from Uncle Sam:

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