Iranian Foreign & Resistance Front Strategy & Operations

[FUB]

It is now 100% certrain. Iran established a deterrent capability by laying to waste critical infrastructure in Israel, and all of the retired US military officers who were dismissed were correct after all. Otherwise, this individual would not be barking this way.

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[Watandar]

This has always seemed obvious to me. Turkey helps counter Iran and AoR, and gets regional influence in return. I said this back at the beginning of the Syrian war in the old forum and got laughed off.

Well....regional influence yes but not dominance. I think what Turkey gets is a chance to prove to America and Europe its usefulness and its European-ness. The Turks have been trying to convince themselves and Europe since Ataturk that they are not really Mideasterners.

But you have to give it to the Turks, they are as two faced, ruthless and interventionist as anyone else and yet have escaped any scrutiny, let alone consequences. Their policy making is excellent.

Iranians should have remained in the shadows. IRGC and Quds force and allies worked best when they were not well known. Even Qassem Suleimani was not known much outside of official circles. I remember circa late 2010's suddenly all this was in the public sphere with memes and media coverage, suddenly Suleimani was being mentioned repeatedly in books and news articles and Iranians just could not resist it and went along. The media publicity itself was a trap set by the West.

 

[mangekyo]

Well....regional influence yes but not dominance. I think what Turkey gets is a chance to prove to America and Europe its usefulness and its European-ness. The Turks have been trying to convince themselves and Europe since Ataturk that they are not really Mideasterners.

But you have to give it to the Turks, they are as two faced, ruthless and interventionist as anyone else and yet have escaped any scrutiny, let alone consequences. Their policy making is excellent.

They escaped scrutiny because they were useful, not because they were clever. The Zios kept Turkey on a long leash to protect Israel.

That usefulness has an expiration date. Once the Iran situation is settled, Turkey stops being an asset. History is very clear on how disposable partners are once their mission ends.

The Turkish leadership seems to believe that the Muslim NATO will protect them. I don’t believe it will.

 

[Shags101]

Trump has nothing to lose as war is fought in Iran:

U.S. Navy Supercarrier USS Abraham Lincoln Heading To The Middle East

The nuclear-powered supercarrier will head from the South China Sea to the Middle East in response to escalating tensions between Washington and Tehran

www.forbes.com

There’s plenty to lose mostly to his ego but if this actually does go ahead again not just some will do a Venezuela again take Iranian ships(which would result in a fight nonetheless)but if this does result in a bloodbath of American troops and bloodbath for us is a 1000 or more in a couple of month for a war no one wants in America this would put the government back into democrats hands and trumps hands will be tied up until he’s out of office no matter how much he blows his horn(mouth)

 

[mangekyo]

@Watandar I could be wrong, the next destination for the freed terrorists could be Lebanon

 

[hyperman]

Did you guys see Jolani rescued and set thousands of ISIS prisoners free? I have a feeling they want to send these guys to Iran

The PKK set them free in Shaddadi, to cause chaos in retaliation and also blackmail. They are going to be caught.

 

[mangekyo]

The PKK set them free in Shaddadi, to cause chaos in retaliation and also blackmail. They are going to be caught.

I wish that was true. But it seems Turks betrayed us again.

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[PakAl]

Simple. IRGC is part of it or more like initiator of it. Revenues got siphoned off. 112 Billion USD in export revenue got diverted to IRGC led front companies and offshore accounts instead of sending that hard currency back to the Central Bank, They keep it outside the country to fund their "war chest" and run a parallel economy where revenues never reach central bank yet imports are paid from the very same bank to cause an artificial deficit. Mullahs never got the hint of what IRGC did right under their noses. IRGC, Larijani + Mokhber factions, current government all seem to have led this coordinated coup which they knew ISrael and US will try to capitalise so it will provide them the oppurtunity to grab the power under pretext of war against superpower. Is there otherwise anyother explanation to this that a country earning ~120 Billion USD just from oil export is suddenly facing inflation ? Remember IRGC led companies run 1000+ tanker fleet that Mullahs cant control. This is Russian style war economy model where the forces themselves can fund an elongated war without concerning with government. This is why I say that Iran is heading towards military run technocracy run on petro economy. IRGC started this probably somewhere under Soleimani times but they are using it now. Ideally for them, war will start so they can finish the coup.

Why are they doing it ? different people have different theories. Some Iranian-American scholars think IRGC is hardcore nationalist group dedicated to gaurd the nation, they are part of Iranian deep state of power factions, bureaucrats, intelligence community, business groups .... all of them want Mullahs gone because they might see Islamism as un-necessary or themselves as better qualified for running the nation. Ali Shabani of Amwaj thinks that IRGC's grievance started with Khamenei's resistance towards nukes and probably the fact that Soleimani led IRGC crafted resistance empire from Yemen to Lebanon is lost all because Khamenei could not nuke up the nation despite all the tools available to him at the right time. His loyal generals in IRGC, Artesh are gone now.

I was thinking IRGC is the Ayatullahs/Mullahs. What you mentioned on IRGC economy is necessary for them to survive or else the sanctions will easily kill Iranian military, they must have a self sufficient economy.

 

[PakAl]

Well....regional influence yes but not dominance. I think what Turkey gets is a chance to prove to America and Europe its usefulness and its European-ness. The Turks have been trying to convince themselves and Europe since Ataturk that they are not really Mideasterners.

But you have to give it to the Turks, they are as two faced, ruthless and interventionist as anyone else and yet have escaped any scrutiny, let alone consequences. Their policy making is excellent.

Iranians should have remained in the shadows. IRGC and Quds force and allies worked best when they were not well known. Even Qassem Suleimani was not known much outside of official circles. I remember circa late 2010's suddenly all this was in the public sphere with memes and media coverage, suddenly Suleimani was being mentioned repeatedly in books and news articles and Iranians just could not resist it and went along. The media publicity itself was a trap set by the West.

Turkey slowly worked behind the scenes, they are alot more powerful than shown, they work with the Europeans, Americans, Israelis, Saudis but also try to make their own path aswell, they work towards better relations with Turkic states to increase their foothold.

 

[PakAl]

The Turkish leadership seems to believe that the Muslim NATO will protect them. I don’t believe it will.

Muslim Nato is only on paper, just like the Islamic Military Counter Terrorism Coalition, this force was used against Yemen, but did not help Syrian government or protect anyone else from extremism or terrorism. The same way Muslim Nato will most likely be a force to protect the AlSaud family, Turkey or Pakistan will not get much support and if they ever get stuck the Arabs will turn the other way just like what they done to the people of Gaza.

 

[HAIDER]

I wish that was true. But it seems Turks betrayed us again.

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order came from somewhere else to lose ISIS

 

[FUB]

How can anyone support the opposition? The terrorists were exposed, and their cells were dismantled. The outcome has destroyed the real opposition and set it back. Those who have not followed the civil wars in Iraq and Syria started by operatives trained and funded by the three-letter agencies would not believe the regime. X will not allow me to post the video

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[PakAl]

order came from somewhere else to lose ISIS

ISIS and other militant groups are mercenaries, their handlers protect them and get them released to fight other rebellions. 10,000s are killed but already 100,000s are getting brainwashed and ready for war. They read the same books, literature, follow similar mullahs and their leaders are majority of the time double agents, the foot soldiers are brainwashed zombies. Some religous scholar once mentioned "World powers create these people, at times fight them, use them, create more groups, but they never destroy their roots".

 

[Shags101]

order came from somewhere else to lose ISIS

Yeah I don’t think turkey would actually benefit in these guys being released suicidal if jolani actually gave the go ahead I think this was most likely jihadists who are in jolanis military or even Arab tribes who lead this offensive who decided to do this without consent from top levels but I don’t think the Kurds are going to be crying about it either even if just half of them go back to their old ways Syria has just gotten a lot more dangerous maybe even Europe if these guys think Syria isn’t worth their time and decide to export their form of violence…….and yet these guys with so much murderous intent never go to the golan weird right

 

[Eşbah]

I wish that was true. But it seems Turks betrayed us again.

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The second video isn't even from today, I believe.

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