Iranian Foreign & Resistance Front Strategy & Operations

[Tehrani021]

Using your “simple logic”:

US doesn’t have the ability to hit Iran from [insert regional base - ie Diego Garcia] or else it would have done so by now.

Israel doesn’t have the ability to nuke Tehran. Or else it would have done so by now.

This idea that if you have the ability = you would 100% have done it…doesn’t make sense. It’s illogical and you know it.

War is more than the first order effect (ie the strike) its the 2nd and 3rd order that stops militaries. Or else Iran would have been attacked in 2003 when it’s soldiers wore metal helmets and it’s best air defense system was Hawk and it’s best missile couldn’t hit within 1500 meters of its intended target.

B-2 alongside prototype F-22s could have systemically demolished Iranian nuclear sites and returned home unscathed like John McCain and the Neocons wanted. Fordow didn’t exist either. So why didn’t US do it? By your logic it had the ability so it should have done it. But since it didn’t do it, it didn’t have the ability. Hogwash.

You say this:



But also say this:



And admit this:


You admit that there is no strike Iran can do to stop Israel AND at the same time avoid a 2006 like skirmish or worse regional war.

So it has nothing to do with ability (or lack thereof) to strike from Syria/Iraq/Atlantis/Mars and everything to do with what happens after.

Comparing apples and oranges yet again, just like you do with pretty much every other user you debate!

Has Iran been directly smoking US officials in the region on a weekly with their BMs or drones? NO. If Iran were to launch attacks on US officials and assets in the region from Iranian soil on a weekly basis, would that spur a response from US? YOU BET! This also wouldn't just be restricted to US assets and officials, I think any nation in the world would respond if they were attacked like Israel has attacked Iranian targets.

So yes if you are attacked and have the ability to do respond, you 100% would and you know it.

Therefore if Iran has the capability to hit Israel from Syria they would have and should have done it by now. The fact that they havent means either the capability isn't there or they do have the capability but not the willpower, which would be criminal!

So to compare US and Iran with Israel and Iran just shows how desperate and illogical you have become in this discourse.

Look how desperately you're trying to find contradiction in what I said. Yet when any sane person reads what I've written they can see what I think should be done and what the pros and cons are. Another reason Iran would have hit Israel from Syria had it had the capability would be to actually avoid a regional war because it is not done from Iranian soil. So that's actually more evidence in my favour and a refutation of the tweet you posted about an attack coming from Syria.

And please don't put words in my mouth. There is something Iran can currently do. There's a thing called tit for tat. Iran has the capability to hit Israeli consulates in a neighbouring country from it's own territory. People saying "yeah but Iran won't do that" is not a reason why Iran shouldn't.

 

[jauk]

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If true (I’m skeptical), then Iran by not firing from actual Iranian soil, Israel would be denied reciprocal allowance of targeting Iranian military inside Iran and be confined to outside Iranian territory.

To target actual targets inside Iranian territory, Israel would have to knowingly accept to increase escalation ladder and do what no Western country has done since Iran-Iraq war.

Interesting game theory scenario, ball would be in Israel Court to take the off ramp (counter strike inside Iraq/Syria/Lebanon) or escalate further (strike Iranian military targets inside Iran).

Correct. However, at a strategic level Zionia will be left punching in the air. This is exactly a ‘don’t disrupt the status quo’ example. Let Zionia drown in the swamp of its own creation until it’s dead.

 

[Mr. Green]

Iran should take courage and not act like the Kufans who let Hazrat Hussain RA down and let him get martyred but It seems from the Gaza war that they are following the Kufan strategy. The Kuffans pumped up Hussain RA with letters to come and take a stand against Yazid and when he did they became afraid and backed down. The Iranians similarly pumped up the Gazans to fight against Israel and when the time has come to make or break, the Iranians are suddenly afraid of the losses that might come to them.

They should become bold and start the new front in Lebanon which would result in destruction of the Israel State within five years. I would prefer the new front in Syria but Iran sees the risk of Sunni militants attacking from the back. So Lebanon is the best place to escalate the war.

 

[Tehrani021]

Correct. However, at a strategic level Zionia will be left punching in the air. This is exactly a ‘don’t disrupt the status quo’ example. Let Zionia drown in the swamp of its own creation until it’s dead.

Iran can hit Israeli assets OUTSIDE Israel from Iranian territory, surely. That would be an adequate response that Iran has evident capability in, not these baseless assumptions that Iran has the capability to do so from Syrian soil.

 

[Tehrani021]

Iran should take courage and not act like the Kufans who let Hazrat Hussain RA down and let him get martyred but It seems from the Gaza war that they are following the Kufan strategy. They should start the new front in Lebanon which would result in destruction of the Israel State within five years. I would prefer the new front in Syria but Iran sees the risk of Sunni militants attacking from the back. So Lebanon is the best place to escalate the war.

If Iran were behaving like the kufans, then there would have been no resistance in the first place. Watch your mouth. The ones behaving like the Kufans are pretty much every other muslim nation, especially the Arab league ones.

 

[Persian Gulf]

So Lebanon is the best place to escalate the war.

I am not sure Lebanese people would agree with you bravely volunteering them for death and destruction

also please avoid sectarian or religious rhetoric

 

[Mehdipersian]

Iran should take courage and not act like the Kufans who let Hazrat Hussain RA down and let him get martyred but It seems from the Gaza war that they are following the Kufan strategy. The Kuffans pumped up Hussain RA with letters to come and take a stand against Yazid and when he did they became afraid and backed down. The Iranians similarly pumped up the Gazans to fight against Israel and when the time has come to make or break, the Iranians are suddenly afraid of the losses that might come to them.

They should become bold and start the new front in Lebanon which would result in destruction of the Israel State within five years. I would prefer the new front in Syria but Iran sees the risk of Sunni militants attacking from the back. So Lebanon is the best place to escalate the war.

We did not invite the Palestinians to war. Iran saw the oppression of Palestine and said that I support you. And he has done this with weapons, money and even the blood of our youths until now. And even all of Iran's friends have entered the war and are paying the price.

 

[Xerxes22]

I dont need you to tell me how this fucking war started! I saw it from day one and I never even asked this. You obnoxiously filibuster and bring things up I never asked, most of which are your own opinions based on sweet bugger all! You clearly have your head so far up your backside that you didn't see my first message, and others since, where I said khak to sare hamashoon if they dont respond to this!

No Iran doesn't have the ability to hit Israel from Syria, otherwise it would have done so by now. Simple logic, which you don't understand, most likely out of your own khoorde shisheh. It's not about belief or what you say, it's about the evidence of it which there is none thus far. I may be proven wrong, but I seriously doubt it.

Any man who says Iran doesn't have the ability to hit Israel from Syria was surely asleep like the people of the cave, from 2011 up untill, April the 7th 2024, which is today. Finally, you have awoken. You require a very strong coffee now I suppose.

From your posts, its obvious that you are unaware of the most basic facts on the ground. No one is filibustering here. If you havent got a clue yet about Iran's potential in syria, perhaps its right for people to actually educate you because otherwise you will be lost in the conversations

 

[Tehrani021]

Any man who says Iran doesn't have the ability to hit Israel from Syria was surely asleep like the people of the cave, from 2011 up untill, April the 7th 2024, which is today. Finally, you have awoken. You require a very strong coffee now I suppose.

From your posts, its obvious that you are unaware of the most basic facts on the ground. No one is filibustering here. If you havent got a clue yet about Iran's potential in syria, perhaps its right for people to actually educate you because otherwise you will be lost in the conversations

Well where is the evidence of this ability? I'm not going to take the word of twobit trolls on the internet over actual verifiable proof. That's the difference between real honest people and fake decievers.

Until now, no evidence has been shown that Iran/Syria has this capability, just whatever you have mustered from the deep and wide realms of your backside; assumptions dreamt after hitting the opium pipe. So until I see evidence I remain committed to my position. Your silence has been deafening, and has been so for years and after many deaths of good, REAL Iranian fighting men.

 

[Xerxes22]

Well where is the evidence of this ability? I'm not going to take the word of twobit trolls on the internet over actual verifiable proof. That's the difference between real honest people and fake decievers.

Until now, no evidence has been shown that Iran/Syria has this capability, just whatever you have mustered from the deep and wide realms of your backside; assumptions dreamt after hitting the opium pipe. So until I see evidence I remain committed to my position. Your silence has been deafening, and has been so for years and after many deaths of good, REAL Iranian fighting men.

Evidence is there for you to find. We have something called the Internet in the modern world. If you are unable to access the internet, to do your research...you can let go of your hatred and insecurities towards me and sit down nd re-do the analysis with some clear head and logic. Iran has the ability to hit israel not just from Syria, but from Lebanon, Iraq, as well as Yemen.

For instance, Lebanese Hezbollah can strike deep into Israel and can target Israeli military installations in a significant manner if they choose to. This is acknowledged by everyone (perhaps not you though). Qassem Suleimani's main goal was to create a ring of fire around Israel so that significant attacks can be launched at Israel through Iranian forces present in countries like Syria and Iraq. And in case of Syria, this objective have been achieved a long time ago. Do your research first and then come back to me.

 

[Tehrani021]

Evidence is there for you to find. We have something called the Internet in the modern world. If you are unable to access the internet, to do your research...you can let go of your hatred and insecurities towards me and sit down nd re-do the analysis with some clear head and logic. Iran has the ability to hit israel not just from Syria, but from Lebanon, Iraq, as well as Yemen.

For instance, Lebanese Hezbollah can strike deep into Israel and can target Israeli military installations in a significant manner if they choose to. This is acknowledged by everyone (perhaps not you though). Qassem Suleimani's main goal was to create a ring of fire around Israel so that significant attacks can be launched at Israel through Iranian forces present in countries like Syria and Iraq. And in case of Syria, this objective have been achieved a long time ago. Do your research first and then come back to me.

No the burden of proof is on the one making a positive claim. So over to you and Immortal. Iran has no such ability and you have no evidence that you can show me.

So let's ignore all the missiles that Israel has successfully shot down from Yemen and Iraq, as not one has gone through, and focus on some drones that Hezbollah have hit at communication masts. You also conveniently skipped all the Hezbollah projectiles that Israel have shot down. We need evidence of means that can penetrate the Israeli air defence, not get shot down which defeats the purpose.

And no, Qassem Soleimani was there to fight Daesh, and when he realised that Daesh was being funded and supported by US and others, he went to Russia got them to enter the war in Syria. Soleimani was not there for Israel primarily, that just shows how out of touch and off the mark you really are. Fool!

 

[glablo5100]

All ballistic missiles and cruise missiles launched from Yemen and Iraq were shot down, and most of the drones were shot down, resulting in failed attacks.
The only weapon in Iran's arsenal that has never been tested by Israel is the Fattah-1,2 hypersonic missile.
It is hard to imagine that this recently announced missile would be deployed in combat, and even if it were ready, the Iranian government would not have the courage to play this last card.
Furthermore, there is no way that the Syrian government, which has decided to offer complete non-resistance to Israel, would tolerate a full-scale counterattack by Iran.
The truth is that there is nothing you can do about it.

 

[Xerxes22]

No the burden of proof is on the one making a positive claim. So over to you and Immortal. Iran has no such ability and you have no evidence that you can show me.

So let's ignore all the missiles that Israel has successfully shot down from Yemen and Iraq, as not one has gone through, and focus on some drones that Hezbollah have hit at communication masts. You also conveniently skipped all the Hezbollah projectiles that Israel have shot down. We need evidence of means that can penetrate the Israeli air defence, not get shot down which defeats the purpose.

And no, Qassem Soleimani was there to fight Daesh, and when he realised that Daesh was being funded and supported by US and others, he went to Russia got them to enter the war in Syria. Soleimani was not there for Israel primarily, that just shows how out of touch and off the mark you really are. Fool!

The force which Soleimani lead was named "Quds Force" for a reason. Listen, dont waste ur time in here talking to the big boys. From your lack knowledge and insights on geopolitics its evident that you have missed more classes than Greta Thunberg. So go back to school and stop wasting my time.

 

[tsunset]

@Persian Gulf @Waz

glablo5100, present since the old PDF trolling, and i have all of his messages​

He now freshly created an account here, without even presenting himself in the appropriate thread

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Is now trolling for a long time, last day, he claimed that 200 border guards got killed, in the old PDF, was trolling and saying absurdities such as Iran is done with a few GBU-28, spreading fake news, has a weird obsession with north korea and Iran even he claims he is from Japan

He waits that someone answers him, then he never answers back at the person, he baits people and wait for his next bait

This user, which I'm sure if i had some admin right to see, probably uses a VPN and disguises himself, should be removed from this section

Many users got trapped and fell for his trolls, he has no business in PDF, at least the Iran section, he never answers back but posts fake news, provokes to get a response to then not answer back, he has no business typing here

 

[Tehrani021]

All ballistic missiles and cruise missiles launched from Yemen and Iraq were shot down, and most of the drones were shot down, resulting in failed attacks.
The only weapon in Iran's arsenal that has never been tested by Israel is the Fattah-1,2 hypersonic missile.
It is hard to imagine that this recently announced missile would be deployed in combat, and even if it were ready, the Iranian government would not have the courage to play this last card.
Furthermore, there is no way that the Syrian government, which has decided to offer complete non-resistance to Israel, would tolerate a full-scale counterattack by Iran.
The truth is that there is nothing you can do about it.

You do talk garbage a lot of the time, but I agree with most of what you said here. However, what Iran can launch from it's own territory you have no clue about to make such assumptions.