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[Tijani]

Why? What exactly has he accomplished to earn your trust in his words which are clearly untrue?

So the fact that he fought bravely in the war of Holy Defence is not enough? The fact that he has overseen the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Aerospace Force since 2009 and turned it into one the largest missileoperators in the world not enough? Being in charge of the largest missile and drone barrage against an enemy state, not once but twice, not enough? Order of Fath, first degree not enough?
If all this not enough for you to trust his words more than anyone on Insta, or here for that matter, then I must say you're very hard to flirt with.

 

[BigMela2onin]

So the fact that he fought bravely in the war of Holy Defence is not enough?

No, while I respect his service, it by itself does not qualify him to serve as head of the Aerospace Force. In fact, if you have more information on what his service during 80s consisted of, I would be very interested to learn.

Being in charge of the largest missile and drone barrage against an enemy state, not once but twice, not enough?

In retrospect, those operations were failures in that they failed the deter further attacks against Iran. Everyone already knew Iran could break through "Israel's" or any other regional adversaries air defenses, Iran straight up has more missiles than they have interceptors. TP 1 + 2 failed to change western decision making and lead to direct attacks on Iran which killed Iranians on their own soil with no response.

If all this not enough for you to trust his words more than anyone on Insta, or here for that matter, then I must say you're very hard to flirt with.

It's not that anyone else is more reputable than him, it's that him claiming Iran has plasma weapons while significantly more industrially and scientifically capable nations have not is dubious. This is Qaher-313 or the COVID sensing stick again. Except thank goodness they didn't make some shoddy mockup and parade it as an advanced plasma weapon this time.

 

[KHORSHIDSIYAH1488]

So the fact that he fought bravely in the war of Holy Defence is not enough? The fact that he has overseen the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Aerospace Force since 2009 and turned it into one the largest missileoperators in the world not enough? Being in charge of the largest missile and drone barrage against an enemy state, not once but twice, not enough? Order of Fath, first degree not enough?
If all this not enough for you to trust his words more than anyone on Insta, or here for that matter, then I must say you're very hard to flirt with.

He got the order of Fath for True Promise, however. That was a de-escalatory operation that took care to avoid casualties by telegraphing every dimension of the attack to the US via allies. It was announced days before hand and low yield warheads were used. It was a symbolic gesture, and the Fath medal did not speak to anything substantial in terms of military prowess. It's time to face up to reality, the IRGC are a bunch of Baghdad Bobs.

 

[Tijani]

No, while I respect his service, it by itself does not qualify him to serve as head of the Aerospace Force. In fact, if you have more information on what his service during 80s consisted of, I would be very interested to learn.

Unfortunately his service record has be scrapped from the zionist outlet Wikipedia. I'll see if there's any available information still out there and get back to you if I am able to find any. I do though remember that his service wasn't without merit. He belongs to old guard of IRGC. They earned their metall during the war.

In retrospect, those operations were failures in that they failed the deter further attacks against Iran. Everyone already knew Iran could break through "Israel's" or any other regional adversaries air defenses, Iran straight up has more missiles than they have interceptors. TP 1 + 2 failed to change western decision making and lead to direct attacks on Iran which killed Iranians on their own soil with no response.

We disagree on the merit of the TP operations and the reasons are way too many to list and neither do I believe that my arguments would change your mind on the matter. I do though wish to state that the zionist regime air defence, as seen by the colloborative effort by all the zionist West's vassalstates, way larger than the people give credit for. It stretches at least from the Persian Gulf to the Mediterranean Sea. It is probably the largest air defence umbrella outside China and the US.
Given those circumstances I would say both operations were very successful in what they were intending to achieve.

It's not that anyone else is more reputable than him, it's that him claiming Iran has plasma weapons while significantly more industrially and scientifically capable nations have not is dubious. This is Qaher-313 or the COVID sensing stick again. Except thank goodness they didn't make some shoddy mockup and parade it as an advanced plasma weapon this time.

Proof of existence is not tied to others not being able to achieve similarly. This is a western concept of superiority, If they can't then no one else can.
The Q-313 is heading in the right direction. I ask patience of you all and you'll soon see what it's capable of.
Concerning the matter with "Covid-19 sensing gizmo I have NOTHING to this day! NOTHING! I have no idea what they were thinking there. To their excuse, the whole world was absolutely bonkers back then. I remember arguing against people that the pandemic was nothing more than a scam and but was labelled a conspiracy nut. I thank Vladimir Putin for bringing an end to the MSM pandemic, with his invasion of Ukraine! Sorry. I digress!

 

[Tijani]

No, while I respect his service, it by itself does not qualify him to serve as head of the Aerospace Force. In fact, if you have more information on what his service during 80s consisted of, I would be very interested to learn.

Some extract from what I could find. The zionist outlet Wikipedia has scrubbed his service record and instead added propaganda nonsense on his page.

He precious roles:

Chief of the central IRGC artillery staff

Deputy commander of the Hadid group, a missile unit within the IRGC artillery division.

Engineering commander and reconstruction base commander for the IRGC Air Force

Acting operational commander of the IRGC Air Force

Air defense commander of the IRGC Air Force

1986, reportedly travelled to North Korea to facilitate the purchase of missiles and missile components; reportedly coordinated engineering and tunneling projects for the IRGC Air Force. I think a remember a picture of video of him. Tehrani and others in North Korea. I'll do my best to find it.

The source below is the best I could find:

Who is General Hajizadeh, the Iranian air force strategist who organized the attack on Israel?

General Amir Ali HajizadehGeneral Amir Ali Hajizadeh is the strategist of the Iranian air force, the officer who has long led the Pasdaran Aerospace Division and who, along with others, directed the retaliation against Israel

pamfleti.net

 

[Persian Gulf]

He got the order of Fath for True Promise, however. That was a de-escalatory operation that took care to avoid casualties by telegraphing every dimension of the attack to the US via allies. It was announced days before hand and low yield warheads were used. It was a symbolic gesture, and the Fath medal did not speak to anything substantial in terms of military prowess. It's time to face up to reality, the IRGC are a bunch of Baghdad Bobs.

TP2 was certainly not de-escalatory

there was clear intent to do major damage

but the missiles were far less accurate than hoped, so it largely failed

 

[KHORSHIDSIYAH1488]

TP2 was certainly not de-escalatory

there was clear intent to do major damage

but the missiles were far less accurate than hoped, so it largely failed

Do you think it's primarily to do with Iran using its older stockpiles?

 

[Persian Gulf]

Do you think it's primarily to do with Iran using its older stockpiles?

they used newer missiles in TP2 vs TP1 (hence 30% penetration rate vs 10%). but the issue was the guidance systems resulted in c. 70-80m CEP for the missiles that penetrated.

70-80m CEP at 1500km+ range while evading Israeli ABM systems is not bad but against a massive dispersed target like an air base and with relatively weak warheads, the impact can be very limited as we saw

70-80m CEP is less problematic when targeting less dispersed targets though, so the choice of target was not conducive to use for propaganda purposes and shaped the narrative negatively

 

[Tijani]

1986, reportedly travelled to North Korea to facilitate the purchase of missiles and missile components; reportedly coordinated engineering and tunneling projects for the IRGC Air Force. I think a remember a picture of video of him. Tehrani and others in North Korea. I'll do my best to find it.

I think it might have been in this documentary.

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[Khorasan Black Flags]

Iran shooted American airplane from above and burnt several CIA agents in Afghanistan [after martyrdom of General Qasem Solemalini]

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Iran shot down one i$raeli and two american satellites in space in recent months

With what kind of weapon you elites think Iran can have these capabilities?

In addition what kind of Iranian AD is this which is as fast as thunder light and shoot down several i$rali missiles in fraction of a second

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You guys look down to yourself and want others look down to themselves too, and don't BELIEVE "REALITIES ON THE GROUND"

Fresh tweet from Hamed Fakhrizadeh(@ HFakhrizade), son of Mohesen Fakhrizadeh (father of Iranian nuclear programs):

"Someday I asked my father do we have nuclear weapons?

My father answered, my dear son, we have some kinds of technologies & weapons that nuclear weapons are jokes compared with them while smiling"

 

[StrategicBear]

Fresh tweet from Hamed Fakhrizadeh(@ HFakhrizade), son of Mohesen Fakhrizadeh (father of Iranian nuclear programs):

"Someday I asked my father do we have nuclear weapons?

My father answered, my dear son, we have some kinds of technologies & weapons that nuclear weapons are jokes compared with them while smiling"

Plasma Weapons, EMP Weapons, and other exotic stuff they have not revealed yet.....

 

[KHORSHIDSIYAH1488]

Plasma Weapons, EMP Weapons, and other exotic stuff they have not revealed yet.....

This is all typical Islamic Republic khalibandi.

Plasma is highly unstable and either way, even if Iran has designs, Iran doesn't have the means to produce in quantities enough to make them a serious concern. Plasma weapon talk is U.S. Spokesman talk to drum up consent for war a la "Saddam has WMD's". Iran under 50 years of sanctions can make laser weapons? LOL.

EMPs for a fact Iran doesn't have. These are nukes set off at high altitudes to take out power grids. If Iran has these, then Iran has nukes, it does not.

Exotic stuff like RC Qaher-313s? Like tankers with a runway pasted on like they are WW2 era cash strapped Japan? Like Iran's 50th "modern" upgrade of Cold War tanks? Like taken apart and re-built airframes of F-5s? Most of Iran's weapons development are stuck at design stage. We have very smart scientists, but we lack the means to operationalize a lot. Sanctions mean no semiconductors, no important alloys, no advanced designs, munitions and parts, a laundry list of necessary parts. And ultimately, Iran doesn't have the fully-industrialized economy with scale enough to produce new and groundbreaking weapons in quantities that would make them a serious threat to adversaries. The hyped up weapons are mostly just image management and creating a false sense of security for Iranians who live in Iran. It's a form of maintaining legitimacy.

 

[Immortals]

Plasma Weapons, EMP Weapons, and other exotic stuff they have not revealed yet.....

“Exotic” weapons don’t win wars. If they did, Hitler would have won the war.

 

[Hack-Hook]

Do you think it's primarily to do with Iran using its older stockpiles?

no it more was related to deficiency in mission planning and not choosing the right target

 

[Hack-Hook]

“Exotic” weapons don’t win wars. If they did, Hitler would have won the war.

only if Hitler let general ran the war not himself, if he didn't open second front in Russia before finishing Europe, if he didn't let soldiers trapped in Dunkirk escape do Russia and many such ifs