Iranian Missiles | News and Discussions

[kimjongun]

IRGCAF's missile development seems to have ceased post Fattah unveiling. Nothing new or significant has been shown. Fattah-II HGV remains untested, MIRVed K-4 has not been shown despite being talked about. For years we have kept seeing ALBMs but no sign of actual deployment or aerial launches. No sign of supersonic CMs. I hope IRGCAF is not gonna turn into another IRIAF in few years.

the k4 is basically an upgraded hwasong 10

 

[Ali_Baba]

No noise from IRGCAF anymore, have they learnt their lesson that not every accomplishment or achievement has to be advertised in open media ?

They may have learnt that they are in a real fight now, and they should focus on their jobs for a change and actually prepare.

 

[ToddE]

the k4 is basically an upgraded hwasong 10

Not exactly Hwasong-10 relies on older INS while K-4 incorporates a modern Radial Control TVC System (RCS) on board a Post Boost Vehicle (PBV) for exo and endoatmospheric maneuverability and accuracy. RCS PBV deployment changes its role, guidance, trajectory, flight parameters etc. Another difference is use of Hypergolic fuel for Boost phase. Its just a different missile.

K-1 was based on Hwasong-10, never produced in mass
K-2 was never revealed
K-3 is K-1 with a MaRV for endoatmospheric manuvering and accuracy
K-4 is a RCS-PBV which IISS estimates to be an IRBM (3500 KM at high apogee).

 

[kastor ville]

I would not question Irans offensive capabilities when it comes to ballistic missiles

Iran really put on a show not once but 3 times

but Russia is building over 15,000 drones per month at their factories in Alabuga Tartaristan

and these are copies of the Iranian Sheed 136 called the Geran 2 and now the Geran 3

50% of the Russian drones dont have explosives this means Ukraine use up its air defences and then the real ones come through later

Iran needs to do something similar , fire 500 drones per day with 250 duds and 250 armed with high explosives and do this for 10 days depleting Israels air defence missiles

then comes the ballistic missiles and hypersonic missiles

its a shame the Iranian army cant get to Israel, they would wipe the floor with Zionist pigs

I don't know...Drones are ok for closer targets, but when you have to fly them for 4 hours, chances are they will get shot down. Now, hypersonic is where we should be focusing......this missile keeps the Zios and Americans awake at night. Now, only if they could mass produce them and disguise them so they can be dispersed all over the country.

 

[kimjongun]

Not exactly Hwasong-10 relies on older INS while K-4 incorporates a modern Radial Control TVC System (RCS) on board a Post Boost Vehicle (PBV) for exo and endoatmospheric maneuverability and accuracy. RCS PBV deployment changes its role, guidance, trajectory, flight parameters etc. Another difference is use of Hypergolic fuel for Boost phase. Its just a different missile.

K-1 was based on Hwasong-10, never produced in mass
K-2 was never revealed
K-3 is K-1 with a MaRV for endoatmospheric manuvering and accuracy
K-4 is a RCS-PBV which IISS estimates to be an IRBM (3500 KM at high apogee).

first of all i said that it is an upgrade version of hwasong 10 thus the level up in guidance and accuracy....similarity is
The hwasong 10 uses hypergolic fuels for its boost face too like UDMH AND NTO.
They both share a 1.5 m diameter
They both share the 4d10 engine configuration used on the hwasong 10 which is based on the soviet r27
also i am not saying its a exact replica but it is a upgraded version of it like the Shaheen 3 is of Shaheen 1 with ubgrades like pdv and thrusters and ababeel is a missile with Shaheens main structure and tech with a MIRV BUS...

 

[ToddE]

first of all i said that it is an upgrade version of hwasong 10 thus the level up in guidance and accuracy....similarity is
The hwasong 10 uses hypergolic fuels for its boost face too like UDMH AND NTO.
They both share a 1.5 m diameter
They both share the 4d10 engine configuration used on the hwasong 10 which is based on the soviet r27
also i am not saying its a exact replica but it is a upgraded version of it like the Shaheen 3 is of Shaheen 1 with ubgrades like pdv and thrusters and ababeel is a missile with Shaheens main structure and tech with a MIRV BUS...

If one argues that missiles are essentially the same just because they share the same diameter implying the same boost phase propulsion then by that logic, one would also have to claim that an F-18E/F, F-20, Turkish Hurjet trainer are all same fighter jet simply because they all use the same Turbofan, which is clearly absurd. Or essentially all the liquid fuel missiles and SLVs in the world are all basically just Scuds because they share same boost phase propulsion so rest of the stages, guidance, electronics, manuvering etc does not matter. You probably opened its wiki page and saw the Hwasong's name and thought it must be the same missile.

Missiles are differentiated by far more than their propulsion stage: guidance systems, flight trajectories, apogee, midcourse and terminal-phase parameters, role all define a missile not just boost phase propulsion. A radially controlled RCS exo and endo-atmospheric maneuvering PBV designed to deploy submunitions or suspected MIRV at IRBM ranges makes K-4 massively different from its own MaRVed Khorramshahr predecessor (K-3) and its prototype K-1 let alone Hwasong-10 which never got produced. Forget anything, IISS itself believes that its probably the only actually produced and deployed descendant of Russian R-27 SLBM. Rest of the in-between prototypes or tech demonstrators like BM-25, H-10, K-1, K-2 etc are all insignificant comparisions.

 

[kimjongun]

If one argues that missiles are essentially the same just because they share the same diameter implying the same boost phase propulsion then by that logic, one would also have to claim that an F-18E/F, F-20, Turkish Hurjet trainer are all same fighter jet simply because they all use the same Turbofan, which is clearly absurd. Or essentially all the liquid fuel missiles and SLVs in the world are all basically just Scuds because they share same boost phase propulsion so rest of the stages, guidance, electronics, manuvering etc does not matter. You probably opened its wiki page and saw the Hwasong's name and thought it must be the same missile.

Missiles are differentiated by far more than their propulsion stage: guidance systems, flight trajectories, apogee, midcourse and terminal-phase parameters, role all define a missile not just boost phase propulsion. A radially controlled RCS exo and endo-atmospheric maneuvering PBV designed to deploy submunitions or suspected MIRV at IRBM ranges makes K-4 massively different from its own MaRVed Khorramshahr predecessor (K-3) and its prototype K-1 let alone Hwasong-10 which never got produced. Forget anything, IISS itself believes that its probably the only actually produced and deployed descendant of Russian R-27 SLBM. Rest of the in-between prototypes or tech demonstrators like BM-25, H-10, K-1, K-2 etc are all insignificant comparisions.

do you think that i said its the exact same missile????heck no
i said its the decendent of the r27/hwasong 10 and is upragraded and enhanced to a point that the new k4 is different from the r27....
till then lets just agree to disagree

 

[Flotilla]

do you think that i said its the exact same missile????heck no
i said its the decendent of the r27/hwasong 10 and is upragraded and enhanced to a point that the new k4 is different from the r27....
till then lets just agree to disagree

Hey man. I just want from DPRK to give blueprints of Hwasong 17 to iranians. Just let they make the dirty job. I want moooooooore

 

[kimjongun]

Hey man. I just want from DPRK to give blueprints of Hwasong 17 to iranians. Just let they make the dirty job. I want moooooooore

personally speaking i like the solid fueled hwasong 18 more and the newer and bulkier hwasong 19....well mostly they are dprk built versions of topol m probably given by russian after dprks part in ukraine war

 

[Khorasan Black Flags]

Iran tested a new missile which was seen in 3 countries,

One day after rubidog said Iran cannot have missiles [thanks to Snapback mechanism and reformists.....]

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[Mr Iran Eye]

Explanation on the missile test:

As you can see here, the blue section is lateral thrusters doing trajectory correction and the red section is successful initiation of third stage motor.

 

[Shams313]

Is that pulsating engine too trick boost phase interception

 

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[Khorasan Black Flags]

"Hot-fire test of the new-generation Fattah-2 hypersonic cruise missile equipped with a rotating detonation engine (RDE)

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A clear message to the U.S and European union fools