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[Flotilla]

Those facilities probably do end up leading to underground floors.

Three keypoints of this article;

1.- Everybody must be aware that was specially stricken the buildings for producing "solid fuel" missiles... So that means that Iran should be able still to produce liquid fueled missiles.

2.- We have been witnessing how chinese transport aircrafts (specifically Y-20) arriving to Iran days after the attacks. Those flights could help to import solid fuel for missiles, or pieces or even complete mixers to rebuild them (if they´re deployable in those Y-20).

3.- The article suggest openly a direct participation of Chinese government to rebuild missile program, somethig aimed to call international attention and grab US and EU to their suicidal war.

“China supports Iran in safeguarding its national sovereignty, security and national dignity,” the ministry said. “At the same time, China is deeply concerned about the continued escalation of tensions in the Middle East.”

Can Kasapoğlu, a senior fellow with the Washington-based Hudson Institute, said Beijing could supply guidance systems and microprocessors as well for Iran’s ballistic missiles.

 

[Shags101]

Three keypoints of this article;

1.- Everybody must be aware that was specially stricken the buildings for producing "solid fuel" missiles... So that means that Iran should be able still to produce liquid fueled missiles.

2.- We have been witnessing how chinese transport aircrafts (specifically Y-20) arriving to Iran days after the attacks. Those flights could help to import solid fuel for missiles, or pieces or even complete mixers to rebuild them (if they´re deployable in those Y-20).

3.- The article suggest openly a direct participation of Chinese government to rebuild missile program, somethig aimed to call international attention and grab US and EU to their suicidal war.

Number one it takes way to long to launch liquid propelled missiles 2 no one knows what china was bringing into Iran at all so just speculation for all we know just medicine and etc

 

[ToddE]

IRI has bent to US pressure over Missile Arsenal or not will be judged by how many tests of longer ranged MRBMs/IRBMs or multistaged SLVs they carry out in coming months or 1-2 years.

If we do not see tests or exercises involving Fattah-2, KS-2, Sejjil-2, K-4, or no more sequential launches of IRGC's SLVs then it will become apparent that IRI is diminishing IRGCAF capabilities and force will become IRIAF in near future. Khamenei pulled on the plug on Missile ranges before so its totally possible.

 

[Flotilla]

IRI has bent to US pressure over Missile Arsenal or not will be judged by how many tests of longer ranged MRBMs/IRBMs or multistaged SLVs they carry out in coming months or 1-2 years.

If we do not see tests or exercises involving Fattah-2, KS-2, Sejjil-2, K-4, or no more sequential launches of IRGC's SLVs then it will become apparent that IRI is diminishing IRGCAF capabilities and force will become IRIAF in near future. Khamenei pulled on the plug on Missile ranges before so its totally possible.

IMO (just my oppinion) Khamenei did it good. If IRI increases dramatically the range of their missiles, Israeli war propaganda machine will eventually spread that the real target It is EU and further (US).

Everybody knows that IRI can succeed in designing and mass producing longer ranger missiles, that would open unnecessary suspicions over the western countries.

Ironically IRI won by far the narrative of this war. And any counterfait that could damaged this "auctoritas" would be very dangerous.

Finally, I have been painstically watching all words said by Netanyahu after this first round, and he doesn't told anymore his usual bravados. Maybe his unusual "self-refrain" have been induced by any hypothetical warning from Xi or even Trump (I don't know). But the obvious reality It is that Netanyahu seems to be reluctant to put the bell to the cat (Irán). And if Khamenei re-starts mass producing missiles and re-equipping Air Defense and even IRIAF that each day farther opportunity window will be deffinetively closed.

 

[Flotilla]

Number one it takes way to long to launch liquid propelled missiles 2 no one knows what china was bringing into Iran at all so just speculation for all we know just medicine and etc

No. Read the excellent article of PressTV. Khorramshar IV is liquid fueled and can be launched in 15 minutes.

On the other hand medicines are out of sanctions so those shipments can easily reach Irán with no restrictions. Moreover you don't use your biggest military transporte to freight Irán medicines, you would use Y8 or Y9 aircraft for those or even any civilian Airlines.

People said that was solid fuel for missiles. If that is true that means that in reality Irán always kept some capability to assemble solid fueled missiles even days after the attacks.

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[Shags101]

No. Read the excellent article of PressTV. Khorramshar IV is liquid fueled and can be launched in 15 minutes.

On the other hand medicines are out of sanctions so those shipments can easily reach Irán with no restrictions. Moreover you don't use your biggest military transporte to freight Irán medicines, you would use Y8 or Y9 aircraft for those or even any civilian Airlines.

People said that was solid fuel for missiles. If that is true that means that in reality Irán always kept some capability to assemble solid fueled missiles even days after the attacks.

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Press tv is almost never reliable and 15 minutes or an hour during a conflict that is far to long unless they are ready to go in the first preemptive strike those become quick targets for enemy flying over someone’s sky

 

[ToddE]

IMO (just my oppinion) Khamenei did it good. If IRI increases dramatically the range of their missiles, Israeli war propaganda machine will eventually spread that the real target It is EU and further (US).

Everybody knows that IRI can succeed in designing and mass producing longer ranger missiles, that would open unnecessary suspicions over the western countries.

Ironically IRI won by far the narrative of this war. And any counterfait that could damaged this "auctoritas" would be very dangerous.

Finally, I have been painstically watching all words said by Netanyahu after this first round, and he doesn't told anymore his usual bravados. Maybe his unusual "self-refrain" have been induced by any hypothetical warning from Xi or even Trump (I don't know). But the obvious reality It is that Netanyahu seems to be reluctant to put the bell to the cat (Irán). And if Khamenei re-starts mass producing missiles and re-equipping Air Defense and even IRIAF that each day farther opportunity window will be deffinetively closed.

When IRI foolishly decided to take on global powerhouses (NATO, Jews, EU, USA) then Ayatollahs either should have built the capability to establish deterrence like USSR did in 50s or DPRK did to some extent in recent times or the other option will be to STFU about it. What IRI is doing is that they start projects to trigger the west and Jews and suffer from repurcations yet never finish what they started.

They started enrichment and never weaponised it. One can ask why did they even went to HEU when weaponisation was "Un-Islamic" as per Khamenei's Fatva ? Iran suffered for this enrichment for decades yet no product came out of it so what was the objective of this ? its confusing because it seems like the IRI's only intention was to somehow get Iran sanctioned and stay without nukes. What kind of policy is this is beyond me.

They created worlds most diverse and war hardened missile arsenal but refused to take it to ICBMs, ALBMs to scare intercontinental enemies. Now if sanctions come because of this reason then it will again be Iran suffering for something that it never wished to create yet somehow managed to trigger enemy into sanctioning the country.

So to answer you, even if Khamenei has reduced ranges of Missiles to 2000 KM, enemy is still not satisfied with it, if Khamenei burns the entire IRBM/MRBM arsenal to make US happy, US will then go after whatever is left within 500 KM threshold.

 

[ToddE]

IRGCAF's complete silence since war is puzzling. No more missile unveilings, tests, exercises or ceremonial flex after fighting the 12 day war as the only branch from entire Armed Forces of IRI. Its very unlike of them.

I hope that post Hajizadeh IRGCAF is a more professional and secretive now. Despite IRI's inherent faults, this is the worlds most war hardened missile strike corp of modern times. They are also highly well equipped as well. If they have learnt the lesson after losing Hajizadeh to be more silent, more secretive then its better for IRI, being its only attack arm.

 

[TallGuy]

When IRI foolishly decided to take on global powerhouses (NATO, Jews, EU, USA)

Character of Nation can be judged by what enemies it has!

 

[ToddE]

Character of Nation can be judged by what enemies it has!

No thanks. I would take back 1000+ dead Iranian civilians over "character of the year" award any day.

I do not want my country to suffer in name of Palestine while other countries from Islamic world keep sucking Anglo-American-Jewish nut sack.

 

[Flotilla]

به‌جای شادشدن از مرگِ ایرانی‌ها .... بگو کشورت با اسرائیل بجنگه

I understand your bitter feelings.

I agree nobody can ask more to iranian people. They gave 40 years of a doomed economy. Corruption, incompetence and death in endless wars.

Let me tell you that we are wrong. Israel it is a failure, it is a prothesic state, created, paid and watered happily by western powers. We did it. And you suffer it.

But don´t be wrong. Even if you sign the most heinous, humiliating and draconian treaty, Irán will never be back. They want another monarchic/militar dictatorship, ruled by a puppet under their payroll.

It is a fight between our incompetence as world power rulers (US/EU I mean) and the corrupt/non operative Iranian regime. And we will loose. You´re witnessing day after day. We´re pouring a crazy money in Israel/Ukraine while closing our eyes in Palestine.

Believe me, Khamenei will win just sitting down. We have far right extremists political parties, increasing corruption, and chilling contradictions in that global governance. We will end either in a war against Russia/China either bankrupt by a crazy expeding trend.

The best thing IRI can do it is just sitting. We will do the rest. I am so sorry because we did to Palestine and entire Middle East. Excuse us.

 

[ToddE]

IRGCAF's complete silence since war is puzzling. No more missile unveilings, tests, exercises or ceremonial flex after fighting the 12 day war as the only branch from entire Armed Forces of IRI. Its very unlike of them.

I hope that post Hajizadeh IRGCAF is a more professional and secretive now. Despite IRI's inherent faults, this is the worlds most war hardened missile strike corp of modern times. They are also highly well equipped as well. If they have learnt the lesson after losing Hajizadeh to be more silent, more secretive then its better for IRI, being its only attack arm.

Someone made a Fattah-2 Wikipedia page with half the information just being assumed lol

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fattah-2

 

[intelgeopol]

I would rather see Iran as a safe economic and military powerhouse then a dead nation that was sacrificed for "morals" by its deluded leaders

Iran is a military powerhouse, especially in drone and missile technology. And its morals certainly provide a level of soft power that other countries fail to achieve. Not even Russia, despite its propaganda, truly opposes Israel.

As a German whose country has been overtaken by the Jews, it is hard to find jurisdictions which do not prosecute antizionist views, Iran is one of the few places that offer this.

But I agree that Iran must develop its nuclear weapons. If Pakistan was able to extend its nuclear umbrella to Saudi Arabia, could it cooperate with Iran? This is also in the interest of Pakistan due to the Israeli-Indian axis.

 

[Persian Gulf]

stay on topic

 

[ToddE]

Iran is a military powerhouse, especially in drone and missile technology. And its morals certainly provide a level of soft power that other countries fail to achieve. Not even Russia, despite its propaganda, truly opposes Israel.

As a German whose country has been overtaken by the Jews, it is hard to find jurisdictions which do not prosecute antizionist views, Iran is one of the few places that offer this.

Iran could have been at French level of Military deterrence atleast with Same level economy had it not been controlled by Illiterate religious zealots. We have the natural resources and STEM grad bulk for that.

As an example and since this is a missile thread, what is stopping Iran from testing ICBMs? IRGC already has two IRBMs in its possession for years and years. Country's Space Agency and the IRGCAF (Missile Corp) both have their separate SLVs hitting high apogees, but the Ayatollah banned ICBM production to make Jew controlled EU happy. Our leaders are cowards and illiterate.

But I agree that Iran must develop its nuclear weapons. If Pakistan was able to extend its nuclear umbrella to Saudi Arabia, could it cooperate with Iran? This is also in the interest of Pakistan due to the Israeli-Indian axis.

Check per Capita income, GDP/Debt ratio, Debt creditors of Pakistan and you will understand the rest.