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[Immortals]

Land based positioning and survivability:

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I still have seen pictures of celestial surveryors on launch pads setting up the intertial guidance for solid fuel missiles.

The carbon fiber laser gyroscopes are superior to relying on ground based radar telemetry or god forbid American GPS/GNSS although it should be easy to use both GPS and GNSS to get an accurate positioning. Even if America manages to block the GPS connection (unlikely) you will have Russian and INS as back up and cross verification checks for redundancy.

 

[jauk]

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[Tehrani021]

Here is a clear video shown in this article of Fattah-1 being tested in November of last year:

Iran Test Fires New “Fattah-1” Hypersonic Missile, Unveils “Fattah-2”

The IRGC-affiliated news outlet Tasnim has released footage purportedly showing the test launch and impact strike of Iran's "Fattah-1" hypersonic miss

theatlasnews.co

This was 4 months before the recent claims by Houthis of a test of an inferior hypersonic missile. To summarise, Iran has had a hypersonic missile tested before the houthis, which is far superior, and will be in operation once testing has been completed, if it isn't already. To say that there is no hypersonic missile in Iran's arsenal is tinfoilhattery and pure coping from anti-Iranian disapora.

 

[tsunset]

Here is a clear video shown in this article of Fattah-1 being tested in November of last year:

Iran Test Fires New “Fattah-1” Hypersonic Missile, Unveils “Fattah-2”

The IRGC-affiliated news outlet Tasnim has released footage purportedly showing the test launch and impact strike of Iran's "Fattah-1" hypersonic miss

theatlasnews.co

This was 4 months before the recent claims by Houthis of a test of an inferior hypersonic missile. To summarise, Iran has had a hypersonic missile tested before the houthis, which is far superior, and will be in operation once testing has been completed, if it isn't already. To say that there is no hypersonic missile in Iran's arsenal is tinfoilhattery and pure coping from anti-Iranian disapora.

Houthis are using a Hajj Qassem variant, which is technically hypersonic in reentry, but nothing to do with F-2

 

[Tehrani021]

Houthis are using a Hajj Qassem variant, which is technically hypersonic in reentry, but nothing to do with F-2

This was in reply to a certain user who suggested Iran should take lessons from houthis.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Here is a clear video shown in this article of Fattah-1 being tested in November of last year:

Iran Test Fires New “Fattah-1” Hypersonic Missile, Unveils “Fattah-2”

The IRGC-affiliated news outlet Tasnim has released footage purportedly showing the test launch and impact strike of Iran's "Fattah-1" hypersonic miss

theatlasnews.co

This was 4 months before the recent claims by Houthis of a test of an inferior hypersonic missile. To summarise, Iran has had a hypersonic missile tested before the houthis, which is far superior, and will be in operation once testing has been completed, if it isn't already. To say that there is no hypersonic missile in Iran's arsenal is tinfoilhattery and pure coping from anti-Iranian disapora.

Iran had missiles capable of hypersonic velocity many many years ago

and kindly avoid putting such labels on me in such a cowardly way

 

[Tehrani021]

Iran had missiles capable of hypersonic velocity many many years ago

and kindly avoid putting such labels on me in such a cowardly way

I neither quoted you or mentioned you, it was a general comment which I stand by. So I take it Iran shouldn't be taking lessons from the houthis?

 

[Persian Gulf]

I neither quoted you or mentioned you

that's the cowardly part

end of discussion, not interested in this childish exchange

 

[Immortals]

“hypersonic” is a new buzzword.

Shahab-3 was hypersonic and ICBMs from the 60’s were hypersonic. Pretty much any MRBM or greater missile will be hypersonic at some point

Hypersonic Glide vehicles and Hypersonic RVs are not the same thing.

1) Fattah-1 uses a motor to conduct lift propulsion because it lacks a pure glide warhead. This will allow some evasion properities in the upper atmosphere prior to full terminal velocity but still not close to HGV speeds of Mach 10+ prior to entering into TV.

2) Fattah-2 is more in line with a HGV warhead and uses more of a psuedo random skip trajectory maneuvers in upper atmosphere to evade interception by THAAD and can reach the HGV speeds you hear about of a Mach 15+.

3) All warheads deaccerlate massively to reach terminal velocity, or else the laws of physics would rip them to shreds. So no missile impacts at Mach 15, maybe Mach <7

 

[Tehrani021]

“hypersonic” is a new buzzword.

Shahab-3 was hypersonic and ICBMs from the 60’s were hypersonic. Pretty much any MRBM or greater missile will be hypersonic at some point

Hypersonic Glide vehicles and Hypersonic RVs are not the same thing.

1) Fattah-1 uses a motor to conduct lift propulsion because it lacks a pure glide warhead. This will allow some evasion properities in the upper atmosphere prior to full terminal velocity but still not close to HGV speeds of Mach 10+ prior to entering into TV.

2) Fattah-2 is more in line with a HGV warhead and uses more of a psuedo random skip trajectory maneuvers in upper atmosphere to evade interception by THAAD and can reach the HGV speeds you hear about of a Mach 15+.

3) All warheads deaccerlate massively to reach terminal velocity, or else the laws of physics would rip them to shreds. So no missile impacts at Mach 15, maybe Mach <7

Right, so the missile the houthis claimed to have tested was a hypersonic RV whilst Iran has tested an HGV. Puts things into perspective.

 

[Mehdipersian]

that's the cowardly part

end of discussion, not interested in this childish exchange

Right, so the missile the houthis claimed to have tested was a hypersonic RV whilst Iran has tested an HGV. Puts things into perspective.

Yemen does not have the scientific and financial ability to build missiles. All Yemeni missiles are made with the help of Iran. There is no need for these useless discussions.

 

[jauk]

Yemen does not have the scientific and financial ability to build missiles. All Yemeni missiles are made with the help of Iran. There is no need for these useless discussions.

I don't believe that's exactly true. Yemeni's have been in Iranian civilian and military universities for ages. Although the tech transfer is Iranian in principle, given the naval blockade and given the large numbers they are using in combat, it's more likely they are producing a substantial number of these items indigenously.

 

[Hack-Hook]

Right, so the missile the houthis claimed to have tested was a hypersonic RV whilst Iran has tested an HGV. Puts things into perspective.

can you show us footage of the test of fattah-2

 

[Mehdipersian]

I don't believe that's exactly true. Yemeni's have been in Iranian civilian and military universities for ages. Although the tech transfer is Iranian in principle, given the naval blockade and given the large numbers they are using in combat, it's more likely they are producing a substantial number of these items indigenously.

Even if Yemen has missile scientists educated in Iran, missile production requires industrial infrastructure and money, which Yemen does not have.

 

[jauk]

Even if Yemen has missile scientists educated in Iran, missile production requires industrial infrastructure and money, which Yemen does not have.

Again, you're assumption is manifestly incorrect.