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The lifeline of Iran's security was Hezbollah.
Even Israel cannot intercept a large number of rockets fired from the proximity of southern Lebanon, and therefore war is not possible.
This premise collapsed with Hezbollah's de facto surrender.
High-cost and easily intercepted MRBMs cannot fight Israel or the United States.
Iran should change its strategy and adopt a retaliatory system of saturation attacks on desalination plants, power plants, and oil fields in Qatar and the UAE with SRBMs with short ranges in case of emergency. This is the same logic that North Korea has used to prevent the U.S. military from advancing northward by sticking its firebombs in Seoul.
"easily intercepted MRBMs"

in Op TP 2 at least 50-55 out of 180 MRBMs impacted in Israel

that was still in very early stage of the conflict with Israeli ABM stocks near highs. as Ukraine teaches us, that interception rate will only fall with time.

so they are not easily intercepted at all. the issue was lack of accuracy, target selection, and methods.
 
The lifeline of Iran's security was Hezbollah.
Even Israel cannot intercept a large number of rockets fired from the proximity of southern Lebanon, and therefore war is not possible.
This premise collapsed with Hezbollah's de facto surrender.
High-cost and easily intercepted MRBMs cannot fight Israel or the United States.
Iran should change its strategy and adopt a retaliatory system of saturation attacks on desalination plants, power plants, and oil fields in Qatar and the UAE with SRBMs with short ranges in case of emergency. This is the same logic that North Korea has used to prevent the U.S. military from advancing northward by sticking its firebombs in Seoul.
This is correct. The crux of deterrence was Hezbollah and its massive arsenal of Katyushas, which had enough ballistic missiles to deal damage to Israel. Axis of Resistance incompetence led to them being crushed on the battlefied. Once Syria was lost, the Axis ceased to exist. It's now just leftovers being cleaned up. The easiest victory Israel has had in history was their 4 day decimation of Hezbollah. With Syria gone, they are finished. There are videos everywhere of takfiri beheadings of Hezbollah members, Israelis standing adopt rotten bodies of Hezbollah fighters with faces askew in last-minute-of-life horror. Leadership matters, human capital in the form of expertise matters. This is why Soleimani was taken out- the beginning of the end for Iran. All those decades of building up this militia, hyping them up as some vaunted force after the disastrous near loss of 2006 as if it was a victory, all of this for them to be reduced to human wreckage in 4 days.

Iran's missiles can be used in the way you and others have mentioned in an all-out war, but the role of Hezbollah and the others was to prevent a war on Iranian soil. This strategy has been proved as an abject failure.
 
Bagheri talked about creating a capability for attacks many many times bigger than Operation True Promise II

make up for lack of accuracy with sheer numbers --> 500+ ballistic missiles launched per attack is now feasible
 
Bagheri talked about creating a capability for attacks many many times bigger than Operation True Promise II

make up for lack of accuracy with sheer numbers --> 500-1000 ballistic missiles launched per attack is now feasible
The question is, does Iran have time to do this? If so, how many days of missile salvos will it take for all deterrence to be lost? I get the feeling ballistic missiles are on-time use cards, like Hezbollah was.
 
The question is, does Iran have time to do this? If so, how many days of missile salvos will it take for all deterrence to be lost? I get the feeling ballistic missiles are on-time use cards, like Hezbollah was.
in the last attack Hajizadeh said this was only 20% of our capability, suggesting Iran can launch close to 1000 missiles at once if we use all our bases

but Bagheri's words suggest they want to create an even bigger capability than this

Hajizadeh also hinted that funding for missile production has increased a lot recently, suggesting production is at very high levels

so I think it is possible and I do not think they are one time use cards, these bases are spread throughout the country and well protected. notably Israel did not try to attack them (yet)
 
@Tijani I have seen the prior exercises. but those mostly use SRBMs up to 1000km range. these MRBMs should have greater impact velocity. and warheads impact differently on different surfaces of course. and how missiles perform in a curated environment vs in a war time GNSS-denied environment at full range is very different.
 
Yeah, obviously USA has sent a massive force to red sea for fun and Yemenis failed to close that strait to western/Israeli ships.

Deployment in the sea has NOTHING to do with imaginary "serious blows" and "damage" to American Ships. US/NATO has hundreds of such bases/deployments all over the world, including as near as 100 KM away from Iranian coast. Their ships are also getting serious blows and damages there?

Still waiting for your evidence that US navy has received damages.

Why don't you understand that there is a reason behind that massive build up in red sea?

Western propaganda has blinded you my friend. You fail to see the reason behind anger of Americans.

When an American high ranking general says that Ansarallah is scary, it gives me a clue. When they send reinforcement to repel attacks of Yemenis, it gives me a clue.

Many American military commanders have confessed to Yemeni might. You are the one blind to the truth.

These typed words by you and "the belief" could not save the following:

60K Palestinians
Leadership of Hamas and thousands of fighters
Leadership of Hezbollah and hundreds of fighters.
Dozens of Houthis
Assad in Syria

Your turn?
 
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in this image we see 3 impacts, one direct hit on the AWACS shelters doing considerable damage, and 2 impacts that miss the shelters by 40-80 meters

The impact is kinetic not explosive. The RV's warheads trigger mating mechanism either did not or was deliberately inert to reduce the damage. This is entirely possible as both parties kinda ran away from the escalation ladder. Iran from damaging Israeli bases, Israel from hitting any active offensive asset of Iran.
 
Deployment in the sea has NOTHING to do with imaginary "serious blows" and "damage" to American Ships. US/NATO has hundreds of such bases/deployments all over the world, including as near as 100 KM away from Iranian coast. Their ships are also getting serious blows and damages there?

Still waiting for your evidence that US navy has received damages.



These typed words by you and "the belief" could not save the following:

60K Palestinians
Leadership of Hamas and thousands of fighters
Leadership of Hezbollah and hundreds of fighters.
Assad in Syria

Your turn.
Hezbollah lost to the tune of 4,000 fighters, not hundreds. Iranians of all stripes- Islamists, Monarchists, whatever, engage in denial a lot. For instance this mohammad guy is an example, but so are the Monarchists who are shocked that Israel now is making moves to help Aliyev and to increase separatism in Iranian Azerbaijan.

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Is it really possible that Iran in 2019 had a total of 300 ballistic missiles in its arsenal (all ballistic missiles)?

If not then how US intelligence was wrong by such a big margin?
 
Zionists lie, Americans lie, Iranians lie, but satellite imagery does not lie
This much we can agree on but I must underscore that only the zionist West are pathological liars. It is a condition that's inflicted on them. Let me quote George Costanza in the most zionist of programs: "Jerry, just remember, it's not a lie if you believe it"

the above image shows a direct hit on the concrete F-35 shelter in the north of Nevatim base with insignificant level of damage
It's only relevant if you believe in the satellit imagery. Considering their ability to withhold and change satellite imagery I won't take these images with bucket load of salt.

the satellite imagery also shows relatively small (c. 7-8m) impact craters on the runways

400-500kg warheads on that soil type do not produce much destruction
Now this were I believe we can both both forth relevant rational arguments for and against. I have seen unedited footage of the destructive power of Iran's missiles, not withstanding videos from exercises in Iran. 7-8 impact craters seems relatively consistent with Ain Assad, if I remember correctly. I'll upload the videos on both later on to underpin my argumentation concerning destructiveness. Either you're right concerning the amount of destruction achieve by half a ton high grade explosive or less was used if we assume that the images are factual. I believe both claims to be incorrect. In my opinion there should be more destruction caused and I do not lend credence to the satellite imaginary provided by the zionist West concerning this matter.

I present images and proof for all my claims and inferences. I welcome you to do the same

You put in a hefty amount of work in compiling the details of the satellite imagery you provided and the accompanying detailed description. I will provide the videos from prior operations by Iran's missile forces. Unless Iran, China or Russia decide to provide alternative satellite imagery then it will hard to provide competing claims regarding the specific operation of TP 1 and 2.
 
Hezbollah lost to the tune of 4,000 fighters, not hundreds. Iranians of all stripes- Islamists, Monarchists, whatever, engage in denial a lot. For instance this mohammad guy is an example, but so are the Monarchists who are shocked that Israel now is making moves to help Aliyev and to increase separatism in Iranian Azerbaijan. Our people are truly some of the most kheng on the planet.

Simple, when you go extremely ideological you go stupid. It does not matter what the ideology is. Islamists, Shahis, Reformists, Conservatives, Socialists/leftists they all fail because all of them refuse to understand that in the end countries look for their own and nothing else. Russia, US, EU, Israel, PGCC, China all are looking for their own except Iranian leadership that has somehow managed to put Iranian national integrity at risk in name of fighting for Arabs. The same Arabs that will piss on Iran the first moment they can, even if Israel is dropping bombs on their heads, destroying their countries.

As for the the rest of the your post, good thing is Republic Azerbaijan is controlled more by Russian deep state than Israel. Iran needs to play smart here. Not the thread for it.
 
Is it really possible that Iran in 2019 had a total of 300 ballistic missiles in its arsenal (all ballistic missiles)?

If not then how US intelligence was wrong by such a big margin?
Americans do not upload their security documents on the Internet. The words of their media are as worthless as the words of their president
 
Americans do not upload their security documents on the Internet. The words of their media are as worthless as the words of their president
If i remember 300 is the number given by general McKenzie back in 2019
 
Americans do not upload their security documents on the Internet. The words of their media are as worthless as the words of their president
The Western osint on Iran is written in zionist fantasy La La land! But their elites are well aware of Iran's capabilities. We do not underestimate them. They're highly capable and ruthless. They wouldn't otherwise be in position they're in, but they are by no means Übermensch as some here would like to portray them.
 

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