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[Khorasan Black Flags]

I already stated that unless China, Russia or Iran decides to release satellite imagery concerning this matter then it's impossible for us who argue against the once you've provided.

@Tijani Couldn't say any better

 

[Tijani]

what is acceptable prof for
mathematically proving that the images are not fake?
flash news its not a mathematical problem . consider it like a biological matter
the fact is only one Arab worker died from the falling of of the booster on his head , do dent in Israel operation in Gaza happened , missile hit 500m of mossad head quarter m no Israeli base stop operating ......
the missile are not just enough accurate for such operation in such distance

Bro. I'm really sorry. I think it's a language issue. I understand that most of us here don't have English as our mother tongue but I'm struggling to understand what you actually mean when you write. This is especially difficult in your responses to what I've previously written. And since I do not speak farsi, assuming that you do, then there's way too much room for misunderstanding. Have you tried using Deepseek?

 

[Flotilla]

how many 1,500kg warheads (containing 1,000kg TNT) impacting at mach 5 with 100m CEP are needed to cause "total destruction" ( > 90% of buildings destroyed) of a 50sqkm city target (Tel Aviv)? [DeepSeek]

(official claims for Khorramshahr-4 missile: 1500kg warhead, re-entry velocity of mach 8, 30m CEP)

assuming:

(1) 25% of the missiles malfunction

(2) 25% of the remaining missiles are intercepted (can fire 500-1,000 cheaper Rezvan/Emad class MRBMs to deplete the c. 500-700 Israeli ABM interceptors first, ensuring negligible interception rate for subsequent Khorramshahr waves)

--> 2,150 Khorramshahr-4 missiles needed

--> 540 malfunctions
--> 400 interceptions
--> 1,200 successful impacts

--> cost = c. $4 billion (assuming $2 million cost per missile)

if impact velocity is increased to mach 6 (official claim for re-entry velocity is mach 8) and CEP improves to 80m CEP (official claim is 30m CEP), this reduces the number of missiles needed (with same assumptions) to 890 missiles and cost falls to $1.8 billion

--> $2-4 billion needed to ensure total destruction of Tel Aviv
--> cost will increase significantly to account for maintenance, storage, development of associated launchers / logistics, but even assuming (very conservatively) total cost of $10 billion, still extremely feasible for IRI to build this capability over a c. 5 year period

given 2000km range of K-4, these 890-2,150 missiles could be distributed across 10-20 missile bases with only 50-200 being stored in each base. silos are also an option given IRGC claim that K-4 can be stored in launch-ready state for 10 years.

I told you, the future is K4 and "special operations tip device"

 

[Persian Gulf]

I told you, the future is K4 and "special operations tip device"

instead of spending $50 billion in Syria we could have built enough K-4 missiles and associated infrastructure to turn every major city in Israel to rubble 2 times over

but at least we can use the savings from now to do that and secure our future

 

[Flotilla]

instead of spending $50 billion in Syria we could have built enough K-4 missiles and associated infrastructure to turn every major city in Israel to rubble 2 times over

but at least we can use the savings from now to do that and secure our future

Good point. That is the reason why the Syrian job must be let for Erdogan. K4 and its reliability must be priority 1.

 

[Persian Gulf]

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good thread about ineffectiveness of US attack on underground missile base in Sana'a in October 2024 using B-2 bombers

the US attacked the entrance and access roads, but satellite imagery shows that Ansarallah quickly built new entrances, and the base otherwise did not seem significantly damaged

US attacks Houthi targets in Yemen with B-2 stealth bombers for first time

Escalation was to ‘defend US forces and personnel’, says Lloyd Austin, as Houthi official says US ‘will pay the price’

www.theguardian.com

 

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he says air launched version of Zoheir / Raad-500 would increase its range to 1500km without major modifications via su-22 (IRGC has 10 modified su-22 jets that could carry this air launched missile)

this would allow Iran to fire Zoheir ALBM variant into Israel from anywhere within Iranian airspace or even from Iraqi airspace

we haven't seen evidence that Iran is pursuing an air launched version of the Zoheir yet, but this would be a serious missed opportunity

 

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he says air launched version of Zoheir / Raad-500 would increase its range to 1500km without major modifications via su-22 (IRGC has 10 modified su-22 jets that could carry this air launched missile)

this would allow Iran to fire Zoheir ALBM variant into Israel from anywhere within Iranian airspace or even from Iraqi airspace

we haven't seen evidence that Iran is pursuing an air launched version of the Zoheir yet, but this would be a serious missed opportunity

What is the advantage of Iran firing ALBM from over Iranian airspace when Iran can launch much more ( as demonstrated) MRBMs for far less cost? Wouldn't an 1500km ranged ALBM be more useful for a target like Diego Garcia?

 

[Persian Gulf]

What is the advantage of Iran firing ALBM from over Iranian airspace when Iran can launch much more ( as demonstrated) MRBMs for far less cost? Wouldn't an 1500km ranged ALBM be more useful for a target like Diego Garcia?

many advantages

--> greater flexibility and mobility for attacker who can launch missiles without requiring fixed infrastructure / needing to be close to missile bases, reducing distance to target if launched over Iraqi airspace (<1000km from Israel) vs from central/western missile bases (1500-1700km from Israel)

--> harder for enemy to predict launch sites (therefore harder to pre-emptively strike them)

--> complicates interception by introducing missiles with different flight paths / trajectories

--> SRBM sized missiles can be converted to MRBMs (air launch extends range), easier to store as they are smaller

they can also be used to strike Diego Garcia but there the risk is interception by US Navy assets on the way as they still have to go c. 2500km out of Iranian airspace. I think better to use saturation strikes of one way assets like Shahed-136B for that

 

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