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Strange because you were quite passionately defending useless Mowjs a page ago which is how we started this conversation. They are a waste of money, instead will become a liability against kind of enemies Iran is facing just like what happened in Praying Mantis. Same resources should have been or should be directed towards finishing Besat class or enlarging Fatehs to Fateh II with attack capability. 32 Surface vessels combined cant do for IRIN+IRGCN what a group of 10-12 attack submarines can accomplish to scare enemy. They are well within Iranian capabilities to make as well.
Of course I defended them, but in another context of the discussion.
While our last exchange focused solely on ocean-going submarines and where they should be used, plus the ships that should support them in blue waters far from the Iranian coast and away from the risk of being bottled up in the Persian Gulf, where these ocean-going submarines are practically useless.
I also noted that to use submarines far from the homeland and for long periods, without always having friendly countries to refuel, it is inevitable to use ships that can support such submarines. In this context, I argued for the usefulness of converted tankers like the Makran and Kordestan, or the use of commercial ships that, under particular conditions and away from prying eyes, can refuel the submarines.
Therefore, in this case, I had made no statement regarding the usefulness or uselessness of the Mowj class.
While I confirm that the Mowj class (perhaps it's better to describe a series of single-class vessels that use part of the same hull), which in any case started almost from scratch, have provided experience in building with what the domestic industry could provide at the time.
Therefore, I consider them "experience" ships that have evolved according to both the evolution of the domestic industry, the positive and negative experiences (accidents and sinkings) during operational use, and also how and where to position weapons systems. These experiences certainly provide important input into how to build the next generation of larger-displacement combat ships.
In any case, these different "Mowj" ships have also provided great experience to their crews. Furthermore, the two missions of the ships Sahand and Dena, which escorted the Makran—the former to St. Petersburg and the latter circumnavigating the globe—confirmed the quality of the construction of the hulls, engines, and onboard systems.
 
Of course I defended them, but in another context of the discussion.
While our last exchange focused solely on ocean-going submarines and where they should be used, plus the ships that should support them in blue waters far from the Iranian coast and away from the risk of being bottled up in the Persian Gulf, where these ocean-going submarines are practically useless.
I also noted that to use submarines far from the homeland and for long periods, without always having friendly countries to refuel, it is inevitable to use ships that can support such submarines. In this context, I argued for the usefulness of converted tankers like the Makran and Kordestan, or the use of commercial ships that, under particular conditions and away from prying eyes, can refuel the submarines.
Therefore, in this case, I had made no statement regarding the usefulness or uselessness of the Mowj class.
While I confirm that the Mowj class (perhaps it's better to describe a series of single-class vessels that use part of the same hull), which in any case started almost from scratch, have provided experience in building with what the domestic industry could provide at the time.
Therefore, I consider them "experience" ships that have evolved according to both the evolution of the domestic industry, the positive and negative experiences (accidents and sinkings) during operational use, and also how and where to position weapons systems. These experiences certainly provide important input into how to build the next generation of larger-displacement combat ships.
In any case, these different "Mowj" ships have also provided great experience to their crews. Furthermore, the two missions of the ships Sahand and Dena, which escorted the Makran—the former to St. Petersburg and the latter circumnavigating the globe—confirmed the quality of the construction of the hulls, engines, and onboard systems.
Let me just add that nowadays IRIN is in their 103th Flotilla deployment. If you check regularly the IRIN naval base at Bandar Abbas you will notice that never are more than a Mowj at port. That clearly points that IRIN is constantly deployed at sea, that makes those small vessels remarkable and under high operational pressure.
 
Let me just add that nowadays IRIN is in their 103th Flotilla deployment. If you check regularly the IRIN naval base at Bandar Abbas you will notice that never are more than a Mowj at port. That clearly points that IRIN is constantly deployed at sea, that makes those small vessels remarkable and under high operational pressure.
Sailing, sailing, and sailing again, carrying out missions, and conducting exercises, even with fleets of other nations, serve to prepare commanders, ship's officers, and sailors for any eventuality, who will then be able to pass on the insights learned to new recruits.
They are essential for testing every new onboard system or armament, assessing what works, what can be improved, and what needs to be changed, and then reporting back to the relevant authorities with the aim of implementing any technical improvements to current ships and transferring this knowledge to future ships.
The worst thing for a ship (except for maintenance periods) is to spend more time in port than at sea, and even more so to remain docked at the pier when there is a potential enemy pressing to attack.
 
North Korea - a country with a population of 26mln people, GDP PPP the size of Rwanda and standard of living comparable to Liberia, unveiled a nuclear powered submarine with displacement of 8700tons.

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The nuclear submarine program in North Korea started around 2014, so it took 12 years for North Korea to develop this submarine.

Iran had expressed desire to have nuclear powered submarines as early as 2010.

After Iran develops nuclear weapons, it should import North Korean nuclear submarine technology.

Its amazing what you can accomplish when you are not ruled by a bunch of Liberal idiots. Iran's new defense budget is $10 billion. Forget getting anything new in service in the upcoming year!
 
January 8, 2026 SRC: X-@deanwingrin
Iranian forward base ship IRIS Makran arrived in False Bay, Cape Town, this morning for Exercise Will for Peace. In addition to South Africa, Russia and China will participate in next week's maritime exercise.
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Two Iranian navy vessels, the 240m IRIS Shahid Mahdavi and a corvette Naghdi 82 off Simon’s Town for naval Exercise Will for Peace begins on Friday, 9 January. (Photo: Brenton Geach)
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Makran441 with Russian Navy ship Yelena a Project 160 Altay-class auxiliary oiler,
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IRIS Makran and the Chinese destroyer Tangshan 122 at Naval Base Simon’s Town. (Photo: Brenton Geach)
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Two Iranian navy vessels, the 240m IRIS Shahid Mahdavi and a corvette Naghdi 82 off Simon’s Town for naval Exercise Will for Peace begins on Friday, 9 January. (Photo: Brenton Geach)
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Makran441 with Russian Navy ship Yelena a Project 160 Altay-class auxiliary oiler,
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IRIS Makran and the Chinese destroyer Tangshan 122 at Naval Base Simon’s Town. (Photo: Brenton Geach)
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Navigating in such brave waters with that tiny and oldie Bayandor class makes IRIN even more admirable. Thanks for sharing, beautiful pictures.
 
Nagdhi (82) and Russian corvette Stoikiy (545) at the naval port of Simon's Town.
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That Stereguyschiv class light frigate is a jewel. And have a excellent radar, newer class also has a small VLS. Three of them would push forward IRIN ahead in a quantum leap.
IR Ministry of Defense visited a russian shipyards many years ago and they were insterested on them. Unfortunately no contract reached.
 
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During the "Will for Peace 2026" exercise, Iranian ships revealed at least one new development.
On the IRIS Naghdi corvette (82), the tarpaulin covering the secondary artillery positioned amidships was missing, indicating that the Fath-40, a local version of the Breda 40/70 Type 564, had been installed..
In previous photos from 2024, nothing had been installed in that position, as the US Navy's venerable 40/5 mm Bofors twin gun had been removed.
This is certainly an improvement in terms of capability, but I honestly thought they would install the 30 mm Kamand CIWS.

with venerable USN Twin 40/56 mm Bofors Mount
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Now with Fath-40
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