Tijani
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I always believed and believe that the IRGC has other plans for Zoljanah program. Undeclared ICBM?
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I always believed and believe that the IRGC has other plans for Zoljanah program. Undeclared ICBM?
Persian Gulf
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Zoljanah is not part of the IRGC program
Qaem family are more advanced and militarily useful than Zoljanah
GWXP
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At least in 4 years Iran will have an SLV with a payload of 6-8tons.I'm really not liking the timeline!I know it's not easy, it's rocket science after all, but some of us might not be around by 2050!
I pray I'll be here to witness the first Iranian in space and a proper space walk!
This might be more than enough for Iranian Space program.
1) Qaem-100: 50kg
2) 2025: Qaem-105: 120-220kg
3) 2026 Qaem-110: ?
4) 2027 Qaem-120: ?
5) 2025 Simorgh-2: 900kg
6) 2026 Sarir: 1500kg
7) 2029 Sarir Heavy: 4000kg-5000kg
8) 2029 Sourush-1: 6000kg-8000kg
GWXP
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Rough estimation of the engine diameter from the pictures of Iran's pre-2011 SLV/ICBM program.
If we assume the man has an average height of 1,75m, then the nozzle has a diameter of roughly 187 centimeters.
If the nozzle has a diameter of 187 centimeters, then the engine diameter is roughly 2,5 meters, which is slighly bigger than US Peacekeeper ICBM.
Probably Qaem-120 SLV that will be launched in 2027 will be as big as US Peacekeepers ICBM or North Korean Hwasong-19 road-mobile ICBM
For comparison Athena-2 rocket based on Peacekeeper ICBM was able to put 1800kg to LEO. Possibly Qaem-120 will have a similar payload
If we assume the man has an average height of 1,75m, then the nozzle has a diameter of roughly 187 centimeters.
If the nozzle has a diameter of 187 centimeters, then the engine diameter is roughly 2,5 meters, which is slighly bigger than US Peacekeeper ICBM.
Probably Qaem-120 SLV that will be launched in 2027 will be as big as US Peacekeepers ICBM or North Korean Hwasong-19 road-mobile ICBM
For comparison Athena-2 rocket based on Peacekeeper ICBM was able to put 1800kg to LEO. Possibly Qaem-120 will have a similar payload
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Immortals
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That whole timeline is a joke and isn’t worth the poster it’s written on.
I still remember Ahmadinejad saying Iranian astronaut in space by 2025 back in the late 2000’s
GWXP
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Sanctions and oil embargo by the US in 2012 and 2017 and space program budget cuts are a reasonable explanation of why there is no Iranian astronaut in space in 2025
Tijani
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#IR46: How Iran developed and mastered bioastronautical and human space program
Iranian space program has been steadily progressing, not only with the frequent launch of communications and observation satellites but also through its human spaceflight program.
www.presstv.ir
Interesting read. Takes up among other things the reason why we're still waiting on Ahmedinejad's astronaut.
Tijani
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My bad! Thought Zoljanah was also under the IRGC space program. Thanks for the clarification!
Immortals
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#IR46: How Iran developed and mastered bioastronautical and human space program
Iranian space program has been steadily progressing, not only with the frequent launch of communications and observation satellites but also through its human spaceflight program.
Interesting read. Takes up among other things the reason why we're still waiting on Ahmedinejad's astronaut.
Yes those are factors. But even if Iran gave ISA all the money in the world they still wouldn’t put an astronaut in space.
The issue is since 2008 Iran has struggled to achieve major breakthroughs in ENGINE tech. You cannot expect to use SCUD engines as the basis for your program. Only recently have you seen Rafae and Qaem and others emerge. Shahrud team has underperformed dramatically in their testing and research of engine tech given that they had 15 years since Tehrani Moghaddams death to mass produce a heavy engine and they still struggle.
The critical Achilles heal of Iran has always been ENGINE tech wether it’s:
aircraft engine
Tank engine
Cruise Missile (supersonic) engine
Drone jet engine
Helicopter engine
Etc. etc.
Iran desperately needs China or Russia to inject ToT in this field because indigenous progress has been at a snails pace.
Only recently has Iran “allegedly” learned to reverse engineer RD-250.
That gentleman is why Iran’s space program has gone no where. You cannot expect to throw money at this problem and fix it or else Saudi Arabia would have been on Mars by now if money and no sanctions is all you needed to have a strong space program.
Mehdipersian
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Chabahar space base plan
Persian Gulf
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at the moment we are only in very early stages of completing phase 1
very far away from this final plan
Persian Gulf
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Iran showed model display of Russian space tug "Briz-M" which is used as the fourth stage on the massive Proton SLV and future next generation Angara A5 SLV. possibly for use in Soroush
signs of increasing military / space cooperation with Russia
BHAN85
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Real time satellite tracking for: CHAMRAN-1
Track satellite(s) CHAMRAN-1 and see where are they located now. Check when there will be the next pass over your location
www.n2yo.com
Last CHAMRAT-1 Iran satellite overflies USA soil.
Satellites by Country or Organization - Iran
This page is listing the satellites. Select any satellite listed to learn additional details, perform live tracking or see satellite's passes visible from your location
www.n2yo.com
90 kg of payload.
Enough for a 50kg 4kt mininuke.
Persian Gulf
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First GTO launch attempt of Simorgh-2 (optimised Simorgh) appears to fail, Iran denies launch took place
Possibly failed to enter correct orbit. First launch of Simorgh-2 and Iran's first GTO/GEO launch attempt.
Simorgh-2 SLV capabilities:
900kg / 200km LEO
400kg / 500km LEO
40kg / 36,000km GTO
2.4m diameter and 2m length first stage, 1.25m diameter second stage and 29m total length. Total weight of 106 tons and 570 seconds flight time.
Simorgh-1 SLV capabilities:
400kg / 200km LEO
250kg / 500km LEO
Possibly failed to enter correct orbit. First launch of Simorgh-2 and Iran's first GTO/GEO launch attempt.
Simorgh-2 SLV capabilities:
900kg / 200km LEO
400kg / 500km LEO
40kg / 36,000km GTO
2.4m diameter and 2m length first stage, 1.25m diameter second stage and 29m total length. Total weight of 106 tons and 570 seconds flight time.
Simorgh-1 SLV capabilities:
400kg / 200km LEO
250kg / 500km LEO
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Persian Gulf
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he was right (I'll forgive that he was off by one week)
