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[Flotilla]

When European Union copied the Karrar UCAV concept shamelessly.

 

[Immortals]

When European Union copied the Karrar UCAV concept shamelessly.

Looks nothing like a Karrar and in fact looks like a Wing-man inspired design.



Also Karrar is just a modified US target drone from the Shah era. It’s not even Iranian. Unless you mean Qaher? Which isn’t even in production.

 

[Jalz]

Looks nothing like a Karrar and in fact looks like a Wing-man inspired design.

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Also Karrar is just a modified US target drone from the Shah era. It’s not even Iranian. Unless you mean Qaher? Which isn’t even in production.

Karrar is still decent to be an interceptor drone. I imagine if enemy fighter jets are forced to reveal their locations via the heat signature of a air to air missile it will be easier to shoot them down. Also Iran has the capability to produce this wingman like drone. It just requires a Owj and the stealth tech of a shahed 191. It doesn't have to be anything fancy. Just something that can shoot down drones(the main enemy of missile launchers)

 

[Flotilla]

Looks nothing like a Karrar and in fact looks like a Wing-man inspired design.

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Also Karrar is just a modified US target drone from the Shah era. It’s not even Iranian. Unless you mean Qaher? Which isn’t even in production.

No. Wingmans operate conventionally from landstrip. This one is JATO take off and can operate autonomally.

In fact they got an loyal wingman and converted It into a UCAV truck launched, exactly like Karrar.

 

[Flotilla]

Karrar is still decent to be an interceptor drone. I imagine if enemy fighter jets are forced to reveal their locations via the heat signature of a air to air missile it will be easier to shoot them down. Also Iran has the capability to produce this wingman like drone. It just requires a Owj and the stealth tech of a shahed 191. It doesn't have to be anything fancy. Just something that can shoot down drones(the main enemy of missile launchers)

While fielding Karrar has been a failure, the concept IS very good. It is an UCAV that can be launched from any place and has enough speed for intercept not only UAVs but also even Cruise missiles.

And that is what EU has copied. And UCAV deployable. Instead of using a modified high speed target drones they just used a loyal wingman. But the concept It is the same.

It even has not satellite link, like Karrar.

 

[Immortals]

No. Wingmans operate conventionally from landstrip. This one is JATO take off and can operate autonomally.

Incorrect, wingman can operate autonomally and operate from a carrier using the catapult wire system , which is another assisted launch system for short takeoffs.

In fact they got an loyal wingman and converted It into a UCAV truck launched, exactly like Karrar.

There are many ways to launch a UAV, runway, catapult, rail, rail + booster, or even by hand. This has existed for years with other types of drones. The launch method doesn’t mean that anything is copying anything. It’s basic physics. The Karrar and wingman and this drone are nothing alike if All you have is they use similar launch methods.

It even has not satellite link, like Karrar.

Karrar doesn’t have a SATCOM data link. Its head is far too small to store the dish. Unless you are talking about GLONASS chips which help it navigate.

 

[Jalz]

While fielding Karrar has been a failure, the concept IS very good. It is an UCAV that can be launched from any place and has enough speed for intercept not only UAVs but also even Cruise missiles.

And that is what EU has copied. And UCAV deployable. Instead of using a modified high speed target drones they just used a loyal wingman. But the concept It is the same.

It even has not satellite link, like Karrar.

They didn't even the field the karrar drone en mass for airspace defense. In fact they barley fielded the karrar drone at all

 

[OldTwilight]

New drone are created by artesh

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[Immortals]

 

[Flotilla]

Incorrect, wingman can operate autonomally and operate from a carrier using the catapult wire system , which is another assisted launch system for short takeoffs.

No one wingman is launched by JATO system aside this one like Karrar.
XQ58 Kratos can
Airbus 740 Walkyrie. But, again, this one it is a european version of the Kratos.


Another thing it is a CATOBAR UCAV or Wingman. For those you need obviously a carrier.

Karrar was designed first as a drone target, later as a armed drone capable of being deployed from any space. And did 10 years before someone in western countries copied the idea.

There are many ways to launch a UAV, runway, catapult, rail, rail + booster, or even by hand. This has existed for years with other types of drones. The launch method doesn’t mean that anything is copying anything. It’s basic physics. The Karrar and wingman and this drone are nothing alike if All you have is they use similar launch methods.

That is incorrect. Kizilelma, GJ11, S70 Okhotnik, Mq28 Ghost Bay and YFQ44A (nearly all of them) cannot be launched from a truck launcher like Karrar or Walkyrie. And it is simple, they weight too much and are too big.

Karrar doesn’t have a SATCOM data link. Its head is far too small to store the dish. Unless you are talking about GLONASS chips which help it navigate.

I agree. Nearly no one of them have. High speed doesn´t allow to fit a SATCOM, that probably is the reason why all of them are limited to be loyal wingmans, because they cannot fly beyond line of sight and rely on fighters or force multipliers electronic surveillance aircrafts to act as a node.

They didn't even the field the karrar drone en mass for airspace defense. In fact they barley fielded the karrar drone at all

We have seen evidences of at least a dozen of them in parades and being deployed.

I agree that they have been a failure, but the concept is great, and EU and US copied it 10 years later than being iranian tests.