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I would like to know which engine fits on Mohajer 10. The Rotax 912/914 family seems to small to allow that military payload.
That was another bottleneck in the IRGC that was break by the Gaza. But seems mandatory a middle class between a 750 HP turboprop and 115 Rotax family. Just as TB3 did with the 170 HP class engine.
 
Jas 313 reconnaissance and bomber drone
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This drone is made in two samples of 60% and 25% of the size of Qaher drone to fly from Iran's drone carrier.

General Tangsiri:

Jas 313 can perform its missions well with its high speed.

This new UAV has a continuous flight time of one hour and has added good power to Shahid Bagheri carrier.

This drone performs two reconnaissance and bomber missions for the IRGC Navy.


The Jas 313 UAV has been operated from the airport runway and is undergoing flight test procedures on the Shahid Bagheri drone carrier and will be fully operational soon.

Location of weapons on drone:
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25% version of drone is used for flight training:
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When we see the Jas 313 drone flying, the 60% version of the people here on the forum will lose face. It will be a big moment of losing credibility for them and it will be far from over. Real science Vs Wikipedia science:nana:
 
The Iranian army, in line with new trends in military technology, showed the first exercises using Iranian FPV drones. The drone models are not reported, but as elsewhere, the drones are assembled from Chinese components. The combat unit is somewhat different from Russian and Ukrainian analogues.

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Mehdipersian said:
Jas 313 reconnaissance and bomber drone
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This drone is made in two samples of 60% and 25% of the size of Qaher drone to fly from Iran's drone carrier.

General Tangsiri:

Jas 313 can perform its missions well with its high speed.

This new UAV has a continuous flight time of one hour and has added good power to Shahid Bagheri carrier.

This drone performs two reconnaissance and bomber missions for the IRGC Navy.


The Jas 313 UAV has been operated from the airport runway and is undergoing flight test procedures on the Shahid Bagheri drone carrier and will be fully operational soon.

Location of weapons on drone:
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25% version of drone is used for flight training:
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So it has no kinetic or non-kinetic A2A capability, which I suspected from the beginning and now Tangsiri is confirming it. It's not large or powerful enough to launch any naval grade PGMs or AShCMs where you have to puncture thick metal to hurt enemy. Waste of time and resources but these people are kinda fixing the mistake of clowns who came up with this horrible idea 13 years ago. Even if they now fire a useless laser-guided short ranged PGM from it, they can still claim oh look its a functional UCAV after all and move on from it. I think they should somehow get these ones airborne, fire some small PGM from them, make videos etc to claim the project was real and never ever talk of it again.

The same amount of money, effort being spent on this entire useless project could have given IRIAF few more F-14AM upgraded airframes with Fakour-90 and Azaraksh sidewinders. Something with actual war value than these plastic RC toys. Few fully upgraded F-14AM can air guard an entire IRIN or IRGCN flotilla in PG, these plastic drones cant do that.
 
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Emirzad said:
So it has no kinetic or non-kinetic A2A capability, which I suspected from the beginning and now Tangsiri is confirming it. It's not large or powerful enough to launch any naval grade PGMs or AShCMs where you have to puncture thick metal to hurt enemy. Waste of time and resources but these people are kinda fixing the mistake of clowns who came up with this horrible idea 13 years ago. Even if they now fire a useless laser-guided short ranged PGM from it, they can still claim oh look its a functional UCAV after all and move on from it. I think they should somehow get these ones airborne, fire some small PGM from them, make videos etc to claim the project was real and never ever talk of it again.

The same amount of money, effort being spent on this entire useless project could have given IRIAF few more F-14AM upgraded airframes with Fakour-90 and Azaraksh sidewinders. Something with actual war value than these plastic RC toys. Few fully upgraded F-14AM can air guard an entire IRIN or IRGCN flotilla in PG, these plastic drones cant do that.
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Majid air-to-air missile is placed on Karar UAV and can be placed on Qaher as well.
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Mehdipersian said:
Majid air-to-air missile is placed on Karar UAV and can be placed on Qaher as well.
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Here is the issue, IR seeking missile ranges are reduced if not cued by onboard tracking system like a passive IRST or active radar for example. A R-73 fired from MIG-29 has a range of 35 KM but with F-14 which lacks IRST and its radar cant transfer track info to missile, the same R-73 will barely cross 15 KM because the missile has to search and track the target using its own small seeker. This is the same reason that Karrar fired Sidewinder ranges 10-12 KM at max but with onboard tracking sensor the missile can take target cue and be on its way much earlier, thus enhancing the range to ~35 km. Another equally possible way is to provide datalink to the drone, that way it does not have to create its own target tracking information package but can borrow it from IADS and nearby fighters and transfer it to missile. This is one of the reasons they tested EO seeker and Datalink antennas on Karrar. Suddenly you have an interceptor running at 0.9 Mach, pulling 15 G's, releasing Sidewinder at max ranges.
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Thus for JAS-313, the drone has to either have a radar, IRST/EO or it must have a two-way datalink for Azarakhsh HOBS to be effective at full range of missile otherwise range will be less than half. The drone will then have to get close to enemy fighter who will make of a mess of it.

Ironically Iran has every right tool at home for this. They have IRST with tracking range matching that of SU-35's IRST. They have airborne PESA radar that can track an enemy fighter at 94 KM. They also have a Allaspect HOBS sidewinder which ranges upto 40 KM. Encrypted datalinking is already being used so technically they can convert this JAS-313 into a capable naval interceptor which if nothing can pose some level threat to enemy naval fighters.
 
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