Is Greece becoming a satellite state for Israel ??

[Ali_Baba]

Is Greece becoming a satellite state for Israel ??



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@Foinikas @hyperman @Eşbah @Anatolia
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[Watandar]

I don't think that is a fair description. I do think Greece sees the power of the Israel lobby in the US, Israeli wars with Middle Eastern countries AND Greece's own entanglement with Turkey and feels it would be beneficial to align with the Israelis. Greece should be careful though , it could end up another UAE.

 

[Ali_Baba]

I don't think that is a fair description. I do think Greece sees the power of the Israel lobby in the US, Israeli wars with Middle Eastern countries AND Greece's own entanglement with Turkey and feels it would be beneficial to align with the Israelis. Greece should be careful though , it could end up another UAE.

That was the title of the video on the site and as per @Fatman17 rules, you have to use that title

 

[Foinikas]

Man I've heard Stefanopoulos talk about this before and he's blowing the issue out of proportion. Some things the other guy says are valid,but Stefanopoulos talking about "there's protests against Israelis,they don't let them disembark from the ships",he won't mention the ones who protested out in the streets and the ones who didn't let a couple of ships unload Israeli tourists,were communist groups and anarchist collectives.

Just like that. Leftist and anarchist groups. The same who go down the street to protest whatever war is USA is involved in every now and then.

That's all.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

Eventually everyone is on the path to becoming a vassal of zion. That is the aim... if greeks are useful today, great... if they're a nuisance tomorrow... smacked.

In fact what is US doing, but the bidding of zion... a settler colonial entity committing genocide on the natives has an accomplice. Started unprovoked, naked aggression against Iran... and sanctioning the world on behalf of zion... using it's sole choke on dollar, as a conduit, to unchoke a physical and geographical choke in Hormuz. A satanic kingdom cannot be built without spilling the blood of the innocent, starving masses and depriving medication.
The only reason they need Greece is because they have hedged themselves via Cyprus and want Greeks as a proxy against Turkiye.... whom they cannot fight directly.

 

[Foinikas]

I don't think that is a fair description. I do think Greece sees the power of the Israel lobby in the US, Israeli wars with Middle Eastern countries AND Greece's own entanglement with Turkey and feels it would be beneficial to align with the Israelis. Greece should be careful though , it could end up another UAE.

Most people on PDF don't understand that it's Turkey's fault Greece became closer to Israel. It's Turkey's foreign policy and geopolitical games that forced Greece and Israel to come into this cooperation.

I'm sorry that many members here cannot understand that. And as I've written many times before here,when Pakistan was having a tough time with India and was alone after sanctions and scrutiny from the US and other countries,it started getting help in weapons and goods from the PRC.

Some will say "hur dur,but Israel killed hundreds of thousands of Mozlems"....well China did too. Maoist China exterminated millions of their own people,Muslims included. They suppresed religion. But Pakistan started having close relations with China in the late 7'0s and early 80s and you soon got weapons and technology and the know-how to make things nobody else would give you. And you did that,because there was a threat from a bigger country on your east borders,with a larger economy and larger population and a Armed Forces.

Simple as that. The Jew today wants to be friends. Tomorrow if there's a change in government in Turkey,he might forget that friendship. Very possible. What can we get for the time being? Weapons,know-how,some experience.

 

[Anatolia]

As Türkiye becomes more self‑sufficient and starts producing its own drones, missiles, ships, air‑defence systems, and eventually full‑scale fighters, of course Israel and Greece get alarmed. They’re used to a Türkiye that’s dependent, constrained, and easy to pressure. A Türkiye that builds its own arsenal is a Türkiye they can’t control. That’s the real fear .. not “peace,” not “stability,” but losing the ability to dictate the regional balance.

And the truth is, this dynamic won’t last forever. Türkiye is already breaking out of the old dependency cycle. Every year the defence industry grows, every year imports shrink, every year new systems roll out. Meanwhile, Greece doesn’t have that luxury. Their entire strategic posture is tied to external patrons — EU, US, Israel, and soon India. They operate as a forward outpost for bigger powers, not as an independent regional actor. Their foreign policy is built around containing Türkiye, not building their own future.

But that model has an expiry date. Once Türkiye reaches full military maturity — and that’s not decades away, it’s a five‑year horizon — the balance flips. Türkiye will shape its own destiny, and the countries that relied on keeping it boxed in will have to adjust to a completely different reality.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

China exterminated millions

Did you get the answer in your own statement?
China has no beef or feud with Muslims at large, except for a faction that instigated insurgency on behalf of foreign powers. It doesn't serve Muslims or Chinese to destabilize China for imperial causes.... where Muslims sadly have been the cheapest and most vociferous foot soldiers.
Your example is more similar to Ukraine than China, you invoked. Ukraine was used as a pawn against Russia, discounting Russia's real or perceived insecurities on its periphery. Greeks can only be propped up to get swatted by Turkiye to extract a pint of Turkish blood... because zion has no love/loss with Greece... a win-win... on their books.

 

[Foinikas]

Did you get the answer in your own statement?
China has no beef or feud with Muslims at large, except for a faction that instigated insurgency on behalf of foreign powers. It doesn't serve Muslims or Chinese to destabilize China for imperial causes.... where Muslims sadly have been the cheapest and most vociferous foot soldiers.
Your example is more similar to Ukraine than China, you invoked. Ukraine was used as a pawn against Russia, discounting Russia's real or perceived insecurities on its periphery. Greeks can only be propped up to get swatted by Turkiye to extract a pint of Turkish blood... because zion has no love/loss with Greece... a win-win... on their books.

If you think Greece is being used as a pawn against Turkey,you're making the same mistake Turks are on this forum and on the internet in general.

The idea of Greece being "used" every time our interests align with a country,doesn't mean we're used as pawns. Interests and geopolitical circumstances align sometimes. And that's where you grab the chance if you want to survive. Unless you wanna tell me that Pakistan is being used by the PRC to keep India in line. Or that Germany is being used by the UK as a meatshield against the Russians or whatever.

 

[Neojinnah]

Most people on PDF don't understand that it's Turkey's fault Greece became closer to Israel. It's Turkey's foreign policy and geopolitical games that forced Greece and Israel to come into this cooperation.

I'm sorry that many members here cannot understand that. And as I've written many times before here,when Pakistan was having a tough time with India and was alone after sanctions and scrutiny from the US and other countries,it started getting help in weapons and goods from the PRC.

Some will say "hur dur,but Israel killed hundreds of thousands of Mozlems"....well China did too. Maoist China exterminated millions of their own people,Muslims included. They suppresed religion. But Pakistan started having close relations with China in the late 7'0s and early 80s and you soon got weapons and technology and the know-how to make things nobody else would give you. And you did that,because there was a threat from a bigger country on your east borders,with a larger economy and larger population and a Armed Forces.

Simple as that. The Jew today wants to be friends. Tomorrow if there's a change in government in Turkey,he might forget that friendship. Very possible. What can we get for the time being? Weapons,know-how,some experience.

What people don't understand is why Greece would befriend a country which has a storied record for callous disregard for its allies. Israel has shown its ready to preside over the destruction of the global economy, make the US bankrupt itself and lose its edge against China by fighting its war on Iran, and watch its partners in the Gulf eat missiles for its own interests. It's not like Israel is the only country out there supplying technology and weapons to justify entering their coalition.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

If you think Greece is being used as a pawn against Turkey,you're making the same mistake Turks are on this forum and on the internet in general.

The idea of Greece being "used" every time our interests align with a country,doesn't mean we're used as pawns. Interests and geopolitical circumstances align sometimes. And that's where you grab the chance if you want to survive. Unless you wanna tell me that Pakistan is being used by the PRC to keep India in line. Or that Germany is being used by the UK as a meatshield against the Russians or whatever.

Again wrong analogies...
Zion is gobbling up Cyprus... putting Greece in economic strangle hold.
You think China wants Pakistan to fight it's war? What gripe does China have with India except for it being another imperial tool. Interestingly, Mileikowsky named names... Greece, Cyprus and India among others in his hexagon alliance... China talks collective security and has India in key forums... BRICS and SCO.

 

[K2RULEZ]

Is Greece becoming a satellite state for Israel ??



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Greece is another Japan. Already deep inside Israeli and Indian pockets.

No doubt whatsoever that Greece is going to get intimately involved with Israel and India as Türkiye gets more and more anchored with Pakistan and the Middle East.

 

[Neojinnah]

If you think Greece is being used as a pawn against Turkey,you're making the same mistake Turks are on this forum and on the internet in general.

The idea of Greece being "used" every time our interests align with a country,doesn't mean we're used as pawns. Interests and geopolitical circumstances align sometimes. And that's where you grab the chance if you want to survive. Unless you wanna tell me that Pakistan is being used by the PRC to keep India in line. Or that Germany is being used by the UK as a meatshield against the Russians or whatever.

This game is larger than Greece. There are countries out there much larger than Greece who joined Israel's coalition and were rewarded with pain and suffering. Take Argentina for example.