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[mythbuster]

This country truly is run by a small cabal of people the king likes.

Are you rooting for mob rule jango ji

 

[VectorZero]

People like you simply don't understand anything about diplomacy. Everything is zero sum like world is some sort of video game and you either beat the big boss or die.

People like you lecturing others about diplomacy is actually fucking hilarious. You’re not enlightened, you’re just a pathetic simp who’ll throw Pakistan’s interests and blood under the bus so you can act like a big diplomatic expert online.

Iranian soil has repeatedly been used as a safe haven and launchpad for BLA and BLF militants to attack Pakistani forces and civilians in Balochistan. They shelter them, let them regroup, then act shocked when we respond. That’s not some conspiracy that’s Pakistan’s repeated security concerns and reality on the ground.

Their game is proxies, double dealing, and doing whatever India asks. While you’re jerking off to non zero sum lectures, We Pakistanis are dealing with the dead bodies and instability.

Stop romanticizing these snakes. Opposing Indian money in Chabahar isn’t video game thinking it’s basic survival and putting Pakistan first. We’re not obligated to help build up a neighbour that keeps playing both sides and exporting trouble into our backyard.

Grow a spine. National interest isn’t about looking mature while selling out your own country.

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[Watandar]

People like you lecturing others about diplomacy is actually fucking hilarious. You’re not enlightened, you’re just a pathetic simp who’ll throw Pakistan’s interests and blood under the bus so you can act like a big diplomatic expert online.

Iranian soil has repeatedly been used as a safe haven and launchpad for BLA and BLF militants to attack Pakistani forces and civilians in Balochistan. They shelter them, let them regroup, then act shocked when we respond. That’s not some conspiracy that’s Pakistan’s repeated security concerns and reality on the ground.

Their game is proxies, double dealing, and doing whatever India asks. While you’re jerking off to non zero sum lectures, We Pakistanis are dealing with the dead bodies and instability.

Stop romanticizing these snakes. Opposing Indian money in Chabahar isn’t video game thinking it’s basic survival and putting Pakistan first. We’re not obligated to help build up a neighbour that keeps playing both sides and exporting trouble into our backyard.

Grow a spine. National interest isn’t about looking mature while selling out your own country.

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"National interest", those words have been used to justify every useless coup and mercenary war Pakistan has engaged in for the last 79 years. Hence these are very suspect words and those speaking them usually are paid touts.

Learn about diplomacy 101 and statecraft 101 before launching personal attacks and wasting other peoples time. Your "Pakistaniyat" certificates are also not needed.

 

[Bratva]

"National interest", those words have been used to justify every useless coup and mercenary war Pakistan has engaged in for the last 79 years. Hence these are very suspect words and those speaking them usually are paid touts.

Learn about diplomacy 101 and statecraft 101 before launching personal attacks and wasting other peoples time. Your "Pakistaniyat" certificates are also not needed.

So let me understand, you have consistently criticised Pak establishment and army for mercenary war sbut Iran has does the exact same thing with syria, lebanon, yemen and Iran im past 30-40 years but it becomes a statecraft and diplomacy 101 for Iran and Pakistan becomes a textbook villian for you? Is it not Simping 101?

We are not criticizing you for your views, what we criticise you for is selective criticism on Pak and simping for Iran. Dont show hypocrisy when it comes to Iran.

 

[Bratva]

why do you simp for the Gulfies so much ? It's embarrassing. You will never be accepted as even half Arab no matter how much you service the Gulfies.

Please do quote my post where I've simped for gulfies? Since you have an amnesia, you forgot Pakistan strategic defense partner is Saudia and another strategic partner is Qatar which is supplying LNG even now. Both countries have deposited billions of dollars in Pak Forex just because UAE turned rival.

We Pakistani's has clarity who are our strategic partners and we defend those strategic partners that's why PAF is in Saudi. Does it mean PAF are simping for gulfies?

Iran and Afghanistan are neighbors who are neither strategic partners nor they helped Pakistan in any meaningful way in recent past.

You claimed to live in USA and are a Pakistani origin. You are neither loyal to USA nor the land of your origin and you have nerve to question others who are supporting Pakistan and it's strategic partners?

Let's have a clarity. Pakistan and Pakistanis simping for themselves and their strategic partner vs A guy with loyalty to no one simping for party who is somehow running dubious narrative against Pakistan and supporting those who hurt Pakistan. Stick to Iran war thread where you and your likeminded ilk run an echo chamber of Iran supremacy.

 

[Bratva]

This country truly is run by a small cabal of people the king likes.

Aren't all countries involved in this battle are? USA, Iran, GCC ? You can't manage/negotiate with any party with seasoned or skilled diplomats. Personal relations/Those who owe you favors are what making a difference in starting/stopping this war.

 

[Bratva]

Sending Naqvi looks strange , he is an interior minister.....is Shia bond being played here to calm the incalcitrant Iranian?

China FM urges Pakistan step up mediation in Middle East: state media

China’s top diplomat urged Pakistan to step up mediation efforts between Iran and the United States, and help to...

www.dawn.com

Reading b/w the lines, China is pushing Pakistan to force iran for a diplomatic resolution. USA is already breathing down the neck with Lindsay being bad cop and trump reminding Pakistan He did a favour for them. So Pak gonna be desperate now to bring this matter to some resolution

 

[Watandar]

Please do quote my post where I've simped for gulfies? Since you have an amnesia, you forgot Pakistan strategic defense partner is Saudia and another strategic Partnet is Qatar which is supplying LNG even now a days. Both countries deposited billions of dolllars in Pak Forex just because UAE turned rival.

We Pakistani's has clarity who are our strategic partners and we defend those strategic partners that's why PAF is in Saudi. Does it mean PAF are simping for gulfies/

Iran and Afghanistan are neighbors who are neither strategic partners nor they helped Pakistan in any meaningful way in recent past.

You claimed to live in USA and live in Pakistan. You are neither loyal to USA nor the land of your origin and you have nerve to question others who are supporting Pakistan and it is strategic partners?

Let's have a clarity. Pakistan and Pakistanis simping for themselves and their strategic partner vs A guy with loyalty to no one simping for party who is somehow running dubious narrative against Pakistan and supporting those who hurt Pakistan.
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Now in addition to Pakistaniyat certificates you are issuing American ones as well ? You can shove both where the sun doesn't shine.

Saudis / Qatar selling LNG to Pakistan and depositing some cash in its forex account are part of their geopolitics in the Mideast. When they have no longer any need for Pakistan, they will dump it the way the UAE has done. Saudis Qataris Emiratis Americans all invest far more in India than Pakistan.
You mistake Establishment rent seeking as "strategic partnership". The only true strategic partner Pakistan has ever had is China.

I am also happy Pakistan is slowly moving away from the trap it's idiotic previous foreign policy had put it in , of antagonizing its neighbors while serving far away GCC and Americans. Being at odds with most of your neighbors is inherently destabilizing.

 

[Starlord]

iran deserves the bombings fking namak harms just like afghans

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Those Iranian sailors who were killed by USN looking from Barzakh to their leaders calling India Friends.

 

[Bratva]

Now in addition to Pakistaniyat certificates you are issuing American ones as well ? You can shove both where the sun doesn't shine.

Saudis / Qatar selling LNG to Pakistan and depositing some cash in its forex account are part of their geopolitics in the Mideast. When they have no longer any need for Pakistan, they will dump it the way the UAE has done. Saudis Qataris Emiratis Americans all invest far more in India than Pakistan.
You mistake Establishment rent seeking as "strategic partnership". The only true strategic partner Pakistan has ever had is China.

I am also happy Pakistan is slowly moving away from the trap it's idiotic previous foreign policy had put it in , of antagonizing its neighbors while serving far away GCC and Americans. Being at odds with most of your neighbors is inherently destabilizing.

Mate just a page ago, You were distributing slavery and religious certificates. Now you've gone abusive. This clearly shows you are not mentally strong and somewhat disturbed too, to face the truth and reality. You'll accuse others and then cry when other people question your intentions. What are you? A kindergarten kid?

why do you simp for the Gulfies so much ? It's embarrassing. You will never be accepted as even half Arab no matter how much you service the Gulfies.

Blah blah blah go worship your American and GCC idols.

Now coming back to your rants. Replace Pakistan with Iran and it holds the same for them too. Once again you are advising Pakistan and ranting your usual stuff while at the same time, you are/were cheering for hezbollah, Houthis and wishing for Iran to close Bab - Al Mandab through asymmetric warfare. Whatever your rants are for Pakistan, why don't you give the same suggestion to Iran or it becomes Halal for Iran but haram for Pakistan?

 

[Watandar]

Mate just a page ago, You were distributing slavery and religious certificates. Now you've gone abusive. This clearly shows you are not mentally strong and somewhat disturbed too, to face the truth and reality. You'll accuse others and then cry when other people question your intentions. What are you? A kindergarten kid?






Now coming back to your rants. Once again you are advising Pakistan and ranting your usual stuff while at the same time, you are/were cheering for hezbollah, Houthis and wishing for Iran to close Bab - Al Mandab through asymmetric warfare. Whatever your rants are for Pakistan, why don't you give the same suggestion to Iran or it becomes Halal for Iran but haram for Iran?

Your trolling attempts are weak.

Pakistan will continue slowly moving away from being merely a gun for hire for rich Arabs/USA and towards better relations with its neighbors, starting with Iran and then hopefully Afghanistan.

The GCC/US has suffered a major defeat in the recent Iran conflict and I do understand the nervous breakdown that has caused some people.

 

[mythbuster]

China FM urges Pakistan step up mediation in Middle East: state media

China’s top diplomat urged Pakistan to step up mediation efforts between Iran and the United States, and help to...

www.dawn.com

Reading b/w the lines, China is pushing Pakistan to force iran for a diplomatic resolution. USA is already breathing down the neck with Lindsay being bad cop and trump reminding Pakistan He did a favour for them. So Pak gonna be desperate now to bring this matter to some resolution

China can directly put more pressure on Iran and Pakistan doesn't give a fuk about Lindsay...we have financial problems that gives some leverage to other countries , however Pakistan , when push comes to shove, since her birth has been fiercely independent player .... Iranians with all their hubris has bitten more than they can chew .. Pakistan wants to keep them alive for our own strategic interests and the Iranians know that and are unabashedly exploiting it.

 

[Bratva]

Your trolling attempts are weak.

Pakistan will continue slowly moving away from being merely a gun for hire for rich Arabs/USA and towards better relations with its neighbors, starting with Iran and then hopefully Afghanistan.

The GCC/US has suffered a major defeat in the recent Iran conflict and I do understand the nervous breakdown that has caused some people.

Why are you parroting Indian arguments/discourse Pakistan is gun for hire, Pakistan is responsible for the instability with it's neighbors?

Please comeout of Pakistan hatred and be Pakistani for once.

 

[mythbuster]

Your trolling attempts are weak.

Pakistan will continue slowly moving away from being merely a gun for hire for rich Arabs/USA and towards better relations with its neighbors, starting with Iran and then hopefully Afghanistan.

The GCC/US has suffered a major defeat in the recent Iran conflict and I do understand the nervous breakdown that has caused some people.

You have nothing intelligent to say , all you do is regurgitate trite pseudo intellectual crap .... you must be feeling two inches taller by calling Pakistan " gun for hire " ....dumb ass

 

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