Israel Genocide in Gaza - 2023 to present - Part ll

[The SC]

#Starmer:
We want to see more aid entering #Gaza
We demand the immediate return of the bodies of the Israeli hostages
This is the first real opportunity for the two-state solution since the Oslo Accords

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[Persian Gulf]

I don't care about kinship here

well that's a shame. at least as a muslim you should feel some kinship towards them

Yet despite all of this (your claims) Iran has had all of this (money, supposed ties) to be able to spend billions upon billions every year on the likes of Hezbollah, Iraqi pro-Iran militias, Houthis etc. for the past 40 + years?

that is why we have no money left and that was done illicitly

Makes no sense. Iran has plenty of money as well and resources and since 1979 took the mantle of "resistance" in the region and your officials have probably 1 million times or more, claimed and boasted about how they will defeat Israel and liberate Palestine unlike everyone else in the region.

well we tried to do this via others as we are far from Israel but the others in the region were not ready for this approach and we failed. time to move on to a new approach

 

[The SC]

U.S. President Donald #Trump links the disarmament of Hamas to the reconstruction of #Gaza.. and the movement's spokesperson Hazem Qassem to "#AlArabiya": The file is thorny and complex but solvable

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[Persian Gulf]

Did you know that Saudi Arabia help rebuild Lebanon after its civil war..by pouring in $60 billion.. without thinking about Shiaa or Sunni population..

For Gaza..the West must help in the rebuilding, since they are the ones who have allowed this destruction in the first place..

Iran has money..It just bought 48 SU-35 from Russia worth more than $6 billion..

in a just world Israel and the West will fund the reconstruction since they are responsible for it

but we don't live in that world

 

[_Arabia_]

well that's a shame. at least as a muslim you should feel some kinship towards them


that is why we have no money left and that was done illicitly


well we tried to do this via others as we are far from Israel but the others in the region were not ready for this approach and we failed. time to move on to a new approach

What a way to twist my words and sentence, lol. I said that kinship does not matter in this context, the context being that KSA should not be paying for the crimes and destruction committed by Zionists/Israel and its allies. Makes zero sense and will likely not happen either way. KSA is not involved in this sham of a deal anyway nor does it have close ties to Hamas let alone Israel.

What is the difference, if you could fund Hamas with weapons (supposedly) you can also fund it today and tomorrow by sending money to rebuild Gaza as well.

We both know that the support of those proxies has nothing to do with any "liberation of Palestine" but was a way to spread Iranian influence and keep conflicts away from the borders of Iran. Which also failed eventually.

To begin with you are never going to defeat Israel with militias, lol. We both know that as well.

 

[The SC]

The Egyptian Red Crescent announces the preparation of an aid convoy exceeding 400 aid trucks departing to Gaza tomorrow

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[Persian Gulf]

What a way to twist my words and sentence, lol. I said that kinship does not matter in this context, the context being that KSA should not be paying for the crimes and destruction committed by Zionists/Israel and its allies. Makes zero sense and will likely not happen either way. KSA is not involved in this sham of a deal anyway nor does it have close ties to Hamas let alone Israel.

What is the difference, if you could fund Hamas with weapons (supposedly) you can also fund it today and tomorrow by sending money to rebuild Gaza as well.

We both know that the support of those proxies has nothing to do with any "liberation of Palestine" but was a way to spread Iranian influence and keep conflicts away from the borders of Iran. Which also failed eventually.

To begin with you are never going to defeat Israel with militias, lol. We both know that as well.

as a Muslim country of course Iran has a duty to support reconstruction in Gaza, sect is not important, and even different ethnicity is not important to Muslims

it's no secret that Iran is ideologically closer to the Shia of Lebanon and invests heavily into the reconstruction efforts there or that Iran will not be invited to the US-Israeli controlled reconstruction efforts in Gaza any time soon

as for why Iran supported Palestinian groups, some of it was to keep conflicts away from our borders, but a lot of it was genuine and ideological, IRI is ruled by Islamists at the end of the day, rather than nationalistic atheists

 

[Persian Gulf]

The Egyptian Red Crescent announces the preparation of an aid convoy exceeding 400 aid trucks departing to Gaza tomorrow

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I am very critical of Egypt and Sisi but Egypt plays a very important role for Gaza

 

[The SC]

in a just world Israel and the West will fund the reconstruction since they are responsible for it

but we don't live in that world

But they will..Germany just announced its participation in the reconstruction of Gaza, as well as France and England and most likely the US,, despite knowing that Trump is a scrooge..

 

[Bharatah]

as a Muslim country of course Iran has a duty to support reconstruction in Gaza, sect is not important, and even different ethnicity is not important to Muslims

it's no secret that Iran is ideologically closer to the Shia of Lebanon and invests heavily into the reconstruction efforts there or that Iran will not be invited to the US-Israeli controlled reconstruction efforts in Gaza any time soon

as for why Iran supported Palestinian groups, some of it was to keep conflicts away from our borders, but a lot of it was genuine and ideological, IRI is ruled by Islamists at the end of the day, rather than nationalistic atheists

There is no such thing as "Gaza reconstruction." Gaza and the Palestinians are undergoing an extermination plan. What they want now is to begin the process of COLONIZATION; reconstruction is actually colonization. This is why there is no Palestinian state, no UN resolution, and no Russian or Chinese participation. It's just a colonization plan by the Jewish-Zionist elite and their puppets. Hamas was created by the Mossad.

 

[Persian Gulf]

But they will..Germany just announced its participation in the reconstruction of Gaza, as well as France and England and most likely the US,, despite knowing that Trump is a scrooge..

if only you understood the economic situation of the UK before making this comment

in the last election the Labour government promised not to raise core taxes (this is a manifesto promise which is seen as binding)

then last year they raised £40 billion taxes by claiming the global situation was really crazy and unique and unpredictable because of Russian invasion of Ukraine

now this year they are preparing for another 'unique' year of major tax increases because their 'fiscal buffer' is much smaller than anticipated

the UK has no money for such things

 

[The SC]

American report: The volume of American military support to Israel exceeds $31 billion in two years



A research center affiliated with Brown University in the United States published a detailed study revealing the huge amount of military aid provided by Washington to Israel during the past two years.

Huge quantities of weapons and ammunition

The study indicated that the United States sent massive quantities of weapons to Israel in December 2023. The bulk of these shipments were transported by air via giant C-17 military transport aircraft, while other batches were later sent on warships.

The arms shipments sent included:

15 thousand bombs.
57 thousand 155 mm artillery shells.
5000 MK-82 bombs.
5,400 MK-84 bombs.
1000 GBU-39 guided bombs.

In the same month, the Biden administration bypassed congressional review by activating the emergency military aid provision, and sent Israel 14,000 tank shells worth $106.5 million immediately, in addition to artillery shells and other related weapons worth $147.5 million, with the aim of replenishing Israeli stockpiles.

 

[Persian Gulf]

American report: The volume of American military support to Israel exceeds $31 billion in two years

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A research center affiliated with Brown University in the United States published a detailed study revealing the huge amount of military aid provided by Washington to Israel during the past two years.

Huge quantities of weapons and ammunition

The study indicated that the United States sent massive quantities of weapons to Israel in December 2023. The bulk of these shipments were transported by air via giant C-17 military transport aircraft, while other batches were later sent on warships.

The arms shipments sent included:

15 thousand bombs.
57 thousand 155 mm artillery shells.
5000 MK-82 bombs.
5,400 MK-84 bombs.
1000 GBU-39 guided bombs.

In the same month, the Biden administration bypassed congressional review by activating the emergency military aid provision, and sent Israel 14,000 tank shells worth $106.5 million immediately, in addition to artillery shells and other related weapons worth $147.5 million, with the aim of replenishing Israeli stockpiles.

this is just the bombs

we have to also add the air defence missiles, the planes, the bulldozers, and every other equipment

the amount of equipment transferred overall is really mind blowing. the industrial capacity and military expenditure of the USA is totally peerless

 

[_Arabia_]

as a Muslim country of course Iran has a duty to support reconstruction in Gaza, sect is not important, and even different ethnicity is not important to Muslims

it's no secret that Iran is ideologically closer to the Shia of Lebanon and invests heavily into the reconstruction efforts there or that Iran will not be invited to the US-Israeli controlled reconstruction efforts in Gaza any time soon

as for why Iran supported Palestinian groups, some of it was to keep conflicts away from our borders, but a lot of it was genuine and ideological, IRI is ruled by Islamists at the end of the day, rather than nationalistic atheists

I don't disagree with your reply but out of principle, it does not sit well with me that KSA (or any other Arab or Muslim nation for that matter) should be paying for the crimes, destruction and genocide of Israel and those who enabled it directly and funded it (USA and allies). In fact it is not only absurd but an outright insult if you ask me. Totally shameless too. If I am MbS, I am saying something not very nice if offered "such a deal". The whole summit was a huge embarrassment and could basically be shortened down to "how to suck up to/lick a certain part of Trump" the most in public for all to see. As I wrote earlier, nothing concrete came out of It either. As expected.

 

[Persian Gulf]

I don't disagree with your reply but out of principle, it does not sit well with me that KSA (or any other Arab or Muslim nation for that matter) should be paying for the crimes, destruction and genocide of Israel and those who enabled it directly and funded it (USA and allies). In fact it is not only absurd but an outright insult if you ask me. Totally shameless too. If I am MbS, I am saying something not very nice if offered "such a deal". The whole summit was a huge embarrassment and could basically be shortened down to "how to suck up to/lick a certain part of Trump" the most in public for all to see. As I wrote earlier, nothing concrete came out of It either. As expected.

I don't disagree

with all due respect, MbS has been humiliated by Trump in similar ways before, like the big placards about how much Saudi Arabia is going to spend for US ships and jets

of course no Muslims should be paying for the results of the US and Western sponsored and enabled Israeli genocide in Gaza. but realistically no one else will pay. and the Arab/Muslim world should come together in solidarity with their Palestinian brothers who have suffered more than anyone could ever imagine. I have donated to many aid groups in Gaza (and in Lebanon during that war), this is my minimal obligation as a human.