Israel Genocide in Gaza - 2023 to present - Part ll

Ben Gvir: The policy of retreat must be stopped, and we must return to intense fighting as soon as possible through maneuvers, occupation, and encouraging migration.

 
It really is time for peace. Palestinians and Israelis need to have direct dialogue. This conflict has exhausted both peoples.

But for that to happen, we need safety and security in Gaza , along with a complete Israeli withdrawal (can be phased ).

After that, we really have to begin negotiations. This can't go on.

 
Falcon29 said:
Ben Gvir: The policy of retreat must be stopped, and we must return to intense fighting as soon as possible through maneuvers, occupation, and encouraging migration.

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this terrorist just wants endless fighting against an already devastated open air prison

until Israel faces real consequences for these policies, nothing will stop them
 
Persian Gulf said:
this terrorist just wants endless fighting against an already devastated open air prison

until Israel faces real consequences for these policies, nothing will stop them
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Hopefully they change tune and open direct dialogue with Palestinians.

We need to have peace. I don't want a forever war with Jewish people/Israel.

Palestinians of Gaza don't need to act as disciplinary force against Israel, on behalf of Arab and Muslim world. When Arab and Muslim just end up feeding us to the dogs.

Of course if Israelis continue this trajectory and leave us no choice but to fight back, we will. But I'd rather both societies talk to each other and make peace. There is no religious obstacle for getting along with each other. It's purely political.
 
Urgent | In the latest toll: 44 martyrs due to the occupation's aggression on the Gaza Strip, since dawn today.




Urgent | The occupation army announces the cessation of airstrikes and the return to implementing the ceasefire agreement in the Gaza Strip.




They want to create a norm where they kill people every day and then claim they are holding onto the truce.
 
Falcon29 said:
Hopefully they change tune and open direct dialogue with Palestinians.

We need to have peace. I don't want a forever war with Jewish people/Israel.

Palestinians of Gaza don't need to act as disciplinary force against Israel, on behalf of Arab and Muslim world. When Arab and Muslim just end up feeding us to the dogs.

Of course if Israelis continue this trajectory and leave us no choice but to fight back, we will. But I'd rather both societies talk to each other and make peace. There is no religious obstacle for getting along with each other. It's purely political.
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I don't think Ben Gvir wants a dialogue

he is the religious obstacle, they don't want peace at all

Bibi of course has made very clear that he doesn't want peace ever, and even the more moderate politicians in Israel are openly saying they oppose a Palestinian state
 
Persian Gulf said:
I don't think Ben Gvir wants a dialogue

he is the religious obstacle, they don't want peace at all

Bibi of course has made very clear that he doesn't want peace ever, and even the more moderate politicians in Israel are openly saying they oppose a Palestinian state
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Then the alternative will not be good. Long term Israel will find itself in trouble.

Lebanon - Syria - Iran - Turkey - Egypt are all investing in adapting to the heightened Israeli threat in each of their own ways

Hezbollah is back in Lebanon, out of Syria, rebuilding and reforming military processes

Syria is rebuilding

Iran is rebuilding and learning from the 12 day war

Turkey is taking Israeli military threat more seriously, boosting it's BM capability, Navy, Air Force

Egypt is militarizing Sinai and starting to play it's cards

In late 2020's, everybody will be in a better position to counter Israeli aggression

Israel isn't going to get stronger. It played all its conventional cards.

Its not going to 'surprise' anyone. Even many of its 'surprises' now is just incompetence of Muslim/Arab parties
 
Falcon29 said:
Then the alternative will not be good. Long term Israel will find itself in trouble.

Lebanon - Syria - Iran - Turkey - Egypt are all investing in adapting to the heightened Israeli threat in each of their own ways

Hezbollah is back in Lebanon, out of Syria, rebuilding and reforming military processes

Syria is rebuilding

Iran is rebuilding and learning from the 12 day war

Turkey is taking Israeli military threat more seriously, boosting it's BM capability, Navy, Air Force

Egypt is militarizing Sinai and starting to play it's cards

In late 2020's, everybody will be in a better position to counter Israeli aggression

Israel isn't going to get stronger. It played all its conventional cards.

Its not going to 'surprise' anyone. Even many of its 'surprises' now is just incompetence of Muslim/Arab parties
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In the long term the Israeli plan was always going to fail

It was always a question of how long it would take, no difference to the crusader state 800 years ago

Arabs states could have planned better decades ago so they would be prepared for Israel, but with U.S influence they were curtailed

It's never to late to plan and change and it's vital they make plans


Israel is a cancerous state, and it's people are a corruption on earth and they will always create corruption wherever they are allowed to remain

Right now, they don't want this ceasefire

They don't want International troops, they don't want reporters, they don't want U.N staff returning

Israel is trapped and it wants the Palestinians gone
 
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