Ali_Baba
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There is an inherent lack of common sense for sure, and it is "no wonder" that Israel looks down on the arabs and treats them like sh*t, because it seems, they don't mind it at all...
Israel Genocide in Gaza - 2023 to present - Part ll
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There is an inherent lack of common sense for sure, and it is "no wonder" that Israel looks down on the arabs and treats them like sh*t, because it seems, they don't mind it at all...
hussain0216
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Next, they will be buying 200 F16s without any BVRs
PakAl
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Pakistan must not agree to sending troops unless its under UN, and Saudi, Egypt, UAE, Qatar, Turkey also send their troops for peacekeeping mission only. I can understand the game play here. Saudia, UAE, Israel, Usa, Egypt consider Hamas as terrorists, they will send Muslim army to disarm them, Disgusting.
PakAl
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THE MOST NOTORIOUS QUOTES OF THE FIRST ISRAELI PRIME MINISTER, THE POLISH-BORN DAVID BEN-GURION:
“If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti-Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?”
—David Ben-Gurion: Quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif pp121.
“Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves … politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves… The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country. … Behind the terrorism is a movement, which though primitive is not devoid of idealism and self sacrifice.”
— David Ben Gurion. Quoted on pp 91-2 of Chomsky’s Fateful Triangle, which appears in Simha Flapan’s “Zionism and the Palestinians pp 141-2 citing a 1938 speech.
“We must do everything to insure they (the Palestinians) never do return.”
David Ben-Gurion, in his diary, 18 July 1948, quoted in Michael Bar Zohar’s Ben-Gurion: the Armed Prophet, Prentice-Hall, 1967, p. 157.
—Ben Gurion also warned in 1948: Assuring his fellow Zionists that Palestinians will never come back to their homes: “The old will die and the young will forget.”
“We should prepare to go over to the offensive. Our aim is to smash Lebanon, Trans-Jordan, and Syria. The weak point is Lebanon, for the Moslem regime is artificial and easy for us to undermine. We shall establish a Christian state there, and then we will smash the Arab Legion, eliminate Trans-Jordan; Syria will fall to us. We then bomb and move on and take Port Said, Alexandria and Sinai.”
—David Ben-Gurion May 1948, to the General Staff. From Ben-Gurion, a Biography, by Michael Ben-Zohar, Delacorte, New York 1978.
“It’s not a matter of maintaining the status quo. We have to create a dynamic state, oriented towards expansion.”
“Every school child knows that there is no such thing in history as a final arrangement, not with regard to the regime, not with regard to borders, and not with regard to international agreements.”
— Ben Gurion, War Diaries, 12/03/1947 following Israel’s “acceptance” of the U.N. Partition of 11/29/1947 (Simha Flapan, “Birth of Israel,” p.13)
“We walked outside, Ben-Gurion accompanying us. Allon repeated his question, What is to be done with the Palestinian population? ‘Ben-Gurion waved his hand in a gesture which said ‘ Drive them out! ‘ “
— Yitzhak Rabin, leaked censored version of Rabin memoirs, published in the New York Times, 23 October 1979.
Partition: “after the formation of a large army in the wake of the establishment of the state, we will abolish partition and expand to the whole of Palestine “
— Ben Gurion, p.22 “The Birth of Israel, 1987” Simha Flapan.
“The acceptance of partition does not commit us to renounce Transjordan. One does not demand from anybody to give up his vision. We shall accept a state in the boundaries fixed today, but the boundaries of Zionist aspirations are the concerns of the Jewish people and no external factor will be able to limit them.”
— P. 53, “The Birth of Israel, 1987” Simha Flapan
“It is very possible that the Arabs of the neighboring countries will come to their aid against us. But our strength will exceed theirs. Not only because we will be better organized and equipped, but because behind us there stands a still larger force, superior in quantity and quality …the whole younger generation of Jews from Europe and America.”
— Ben-Gurion, Zichronot [Memoirs], Vol. 4, p.297-299, p. 330-331.
See also Teveth, Ben-Gurion and the Palestinian Arabs, p. 182-189
“If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti-Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?”—David Ben-Gurion: Quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif pp121.
“Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves … politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves… The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country. … Behind the terrorism is a movement, which though primitive is not devoid of idealism and self sacrifice.”— David Ben Gurion. Quoted on pp 91-2 of Chomsky’s Fateful Triangle, which appears in Simha Flapan’s “Zionism and the Palestinians pp 141-2 citing a 1938 speech.
“We must do everything to insure they (the Palestinians) never do return.”David Ben-Gurion, in his diary, 18 July 1948, quoted in Michael Bar Zohar’s Ben-Gurion: the Armed Prophet, Prentice-Hall, 1967, p. 157.
—Ben Gurion also warned in 1948: Assuring his fellow Zionists that Palestinians will never come back to their homes: “The old will die and the young will forget.”
“We should prepare to go over to the offensive. Our aim is to smash Lebanon, Trans-Jordan, and Syria. The weak point is Lebanon, for the Moslem regime is artificial and easy for us to undermine. We shall establish a Christian state there, and then we will smash the Arab Legion, eliminate Trans-Jordan; Syria will fall to us. We then bomb and move on and take Port Said, Alexandria and Sinai.”—David Ben-Gurion May 1948, to the General Staff. From Ben-Gurion, a Biography, by Michael Ben-Zohar, Delacorte, New York 1978.
“It’s not a matter of maintaining the status quo. We have to create a dynamic state, oriented towards expansion.”“Every school child knows that there is no such thing in history as a final arrangement, not with regard to the regime, not with regard to borders, and not with regard to international agreements.”— Ben Gurion, War Diaries, 12/03/1947 following Israel’s “acceptance” of the U.N. Partition of 11/29/1947 (Simha Flapan, “Birth of Israel,” p.13)
“We walked outside, Ben-Gurion accompanying us. Allon repeated his question, What is to be done with the Palestinian population? ‘Ben-Gurion waved his hand in a gesture which said ‘ Drive them out! ‘ “— Yitzhak Rabin, leaked censored version of Rabin memoirs, published in the New York Times, 23 October 1979.
Partition: “after the formation of a large army in the wake of the establishment of the state, we will abolish partition and expand to the whole of Palestine “— Ben Gurion, p.22 “The Birth of Israel, 1987” Simha Flapan.
“The acceptance of partition does not commit us to renounce Transjordan. One does not demand from anybody to give up his vision. We shall accept a state in the boundaries fixed today, but the boundaries of Zionist aspirations are the concerns of the Jewish people and no external factor will be able to limit them.” — P. 53, “The Birth of Israel, 1987” Simha Flapan
“It is very possible that the Arabs of the neighboring countries will come to their aid against us. But our strength will exceed theirs. Not only because we will be better organized and equipped, but because behind us there stands a still larger force, superior in quantity and quality …the whole younger generation of Jews from Europe and America.”— Ben-Gurion, Zichronot [Memoirs], Vol. 4, p.297-299, p. 330-331.
See also Teveth, Ben-Gurion and the Palestinian Arabs, p. 182-189
PakAl
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They will have big issues. Usa Israel Saudia UAE consider Hamas as terrorists, ignore the fake tears. Israel will loose too many troops trying to disarm Hamas, this is why they're bombing everywhere, killings everyone. The Muslim force job will be to disarm Hamas from rockets/missiles, and Palestinian authority will overtake Gaza. Hamas will still have RPGs, Guns, machine guns, anti tank weaponary etc. But we all know afterwards they will finish Hamas off.
Pakistan must only go on peace mission under UN, and with Saudi, UAE, Qatar, Turkey, Egyptian troops. Don't trust anyone. What if someone fires rocket at Israel, Israel will then bomb Gaza and Muslim troops die ie Pakistanis. What are we going to do run back to Pakistan, who gives gurantee Israel will not bomb them accidentally/mistakenly by F35s, the troops will be sitting ducks.
GoshtWalaPulao
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Money and power- the classic dangling fruits
Unknowntruth
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UAE troops are already in Gaza under the name IDF.
PakAl
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UAE is not the only one. We know very well who aligned with the British to topple the Ottomans, who later on collaborated with the Usa to spread extremism around the world, who funded and trained 100 terrorist organisations around the world, who collaborate with Usa to topple Muslim governments and caused civil wars. Petrodollars blind people.
Unknowntruth
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The fall of the Ottoman Empire was much more complex than simply the Arab revolt.
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Falcon29
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Netanyahu visiting Washington end of month
No coincidence. He will try convincing Trump to cancel the ISF force that's meant to be deployed in Gaza Q1 2026
And will ask for permission to permanently occupy Gaza and ethnically cleanse it
The media smokescreen is making it about Iran when it's not. He's trying to take Gaza off agenda.
Gaza is still ruined, 'day after' didn't start yet
Netanyahu and American-Jewish community are flooding media with junk about Iran to take spotlight off Gaza
No coincidence. He will try convincing Trump to cancel the ISF force that's meant to be deployed in Gaza Q1 2026
And will ask for permission to permanently occupy Gaza and ethnically cleanse it
The media smokescreen is making it about Iran when it's not. He's trying to take Gaza off agenda.
Gaza is still ruined, 'day after' didn't start yet
Netanyahu and American-Jewish community are flooding media with junk about Iran to take spotlight off Gaza
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