Israel Genocide in Gaza - 2023 to present - Part ll

[BonPlan]

The UN has no authority to handover my land or Palestinian land to European Jews. There is no comparison between Israelis who have used industrial violence and military power to crush and oppress Palestinians and everyone else in the region for 100 years.

1) Who else decided to give this desert to create Israel if not UN ? I don't know or say it was a good or bad solution, but it is a fact.
2) There was not only european jews there (but it's main part, I agree).
3) no comparison these last 100 Years ? what about Shoah ? 6 millions jews killed in special death camps. All civilians.
4) Without 2023 7th october pogrom, and if Hamas released very soon the hostages, Gaza wouldn't be a field of ruins.

 

[Watandar]

1) Who else decided to give this desert to create Israel if not UN ? I don't know or say it was a good or bad solution, but it is a fact.

The UN cannot take your land and give it to foreigners. It doesn't matter if the UN passed it.

2) There was not only european jews there (but it's main part, I agree).

Only Palestinian jews lived in Palestine before 1917, they spoke Arabic in public and Hebrew at home.

3) no comparison these last 100 Years ? what about Shoah ? 6 millions jews killed in special death camps. All civilians.

"Shoah" was not the fault of the Palestinians and they are not the ones to be punished for it and pay the price.

4) Without 2023 7th october pogrom, and if Hamas released very soon the hostages, Gaza wouldn't be a field of ruins.

So the responsibility for the genocide in Gaza is the fault of the Palestinians, not the actual Israeli killers. You conveniently left out the Nakba of 1948 and 1967 as well the constant Israeli killings and subjugation of the Palestinians.

All of your assertions are textbook Hasbara talking points.

 

[BonPlan]

No one will allow the Israeli to ethnically cleanse the Palestinians out of their land, as a result no will give space to the Palestinians

This is because the Jews understand that over the long run the Palestinians are younger and have more children



The Jews have crossed red lines, they can no longer remain in the middle east, they have to leave for Europe or America

I agree for the first sentence.

About the second : Israel is trained to fight more numerous opposants. It's not a question of number, but a question of quality (of intelligence, of weapons, of money...).

It's a question of egg versus hen : who crossed the red line first.
7th october is a very large red line. Sinwar organised that pogrom so as to provoque Israel, expecting a world or arab answer to the israel reaction. It was a bad calculation, with awfull consequences on his own people.

But at the end they all will find a peace way, because no war is endless (I can speak of germans vs french for exemple : we fought hard 3 times and are now perfectly in peace).

 

[Muji.Iqbal]

Well United Nations should implement the two state solution to the Palestinian-Israeli conflict.

 

[Watandar]

I agree for the first sentence.

About the second : Israel is trained to fight more numerous opposants. It's not a question of number, but a question of quality (of intelligence, of weapons, of money...).

It's a question of egg versus hen : who crossed the red line first.
7th october is a very large red line. Sinwar organised that pogrom so as to provoque Israel, expecting a world or arab answer to the israel reaction. It was a bad calculation, with awfull consequences on his own people.

But at the end they all will find a peace way, because no war is endless (I can speak of germans vs french for exemple : we fought hard 3 times and are now perfectly in peace).

Aka "Poking the bear" ....endless misleading Zionist talking points. Why do you waste our time with this garbage ?

 

[Flotilla]

7th october is a very large red line. Sinwar organised that pogrom so as to provoque Israel, expecting a world or arab answer to the israel reaction. It was a bad calculation, with awfull consequences on his own people.

And Gaza Genocide was another Big mistake. Irán must develop nuclear devices. Palestine or Nuclear War.

 

[Muji.Iqbal]

And Gaza Genocide was another Big mistake. Irán must develop nuclear devices. Palestine or Nuclear War.

But the question is will the world allow Iran to have nuclear weapons? They are signatory of NPT treaty are they not?

 

[Flotilla]

But the question is will the world allow Iran to have nuclear weapons? They are signatory of NPT treaty are they not?

Of course Irán will withdraw of the NPT. But hey, nobody is complying with any international rule today. At least iranians still obey the rules.

 

[Muji.Iqbal]

Of course Irán will withdraw of the NPT. But hey, nobody is complying with any international rule today. At least iranians still obey the rules.

Thats why I believe the United Nations is a farce.

But hey I am waiting till Iran pulls out of NPT treaty. Till then, Iran cannot get Nukes, unless it goes like North Korea withdrawing from NPT treaty.

 

[hussain0216]

I agree for the first sentence.

About the second : Israel is trained to fight more numerous opposants. It's not a question of number, but a question of quality (of intelligence, of weapons, of money...).

It's a question of egg versus hen : who crossed the red line first.
7th october is a very large red line. Sinwar organised that pogrom so as to provoque Israel, expecting a world or arab answer to the israel reaction. It was a bad calculation, with awfull consequences on his own people.

But at the end they all will find a peace way, because no war is endless (I can speak of germans vs french for exemple : we fought hard 3 times and are now perfectly in peace).

You at peace because Germany doesn't control any French land or people

Israel occupies Palestine and traps millions of Palestinians, their cannot be peace with a ongoing occupation and genocidal state

Israel is in a hostile region that utterly hates it's guts even amongst countries Israel has a peace agreement, the people despise Israel


All occupied people have the right to self defence and the right to fight to remove their occupier
Oct 7th was just the result of decades of brutal Israeli occupation, for all the costs the Palestinians are forced to bare, they are chipping away at Israeli legitimacy helped by Israeli war crimes

I would say we are closer to a expulsion of all Jews from the middle east then any lasting peace

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

Hazem Qassem:

Iran has informed us, along with Yemeni officials, of their efforts to stop the war on various fronts, including the Gaza Strip.

We hope that the Gaza Strip will be at the core of any regional arrangements to end the war and stop the aggression.

We are dealing positively with the proposals put forward in Cairo, and we are striving to reach quick solutions.

We are keen to reach an agreement that stops the war on Gaza and ends the suffering of the population.

We appreciate the Iranian and Yemeni support and solidarity with the Palestinian people.

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