Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

[VCheng]

That goes again its charter dude.

Just because it recognised it(due to threats and bribery by powerful states on weaker ones) does not make it legimatimate as per UN charter. UN charter specifically calls for self-determination for natives and that does not include settlers brought in by a colonial power.

Okay then, please go ahead and tell the UN that and see how far that takes your argument.

 

[GoMig-21]

Blaming for 9/11 would be just the tip of the iceberg compared with what kind of punishment can be put on the GCC Arabs in case they deviate from the script too much. We can keep calling the GCC Arab countries all the names but we are not in their shoes and what would happen to the large Pakistani/BD working in those countries when those countries' economies tank??

BTW, it is not just Arab countries but many other countries of the world have to follow the American policies--for now at least.

I must say, it's refreshing in the midst of so much misguided vitriol that someone can still be unbiased, but more importantly objective because he has the level of education that not only taught him to be objective but taught him how to learn to be objective. You see, education in a sense is not just about learning, it's also about learning how to learn. And you've been consistent with that ever so important train of thought throughout this entire ordeal, something not easy to do so I feel compelled to credit you for that.

And despite that misguided vitriol being in good faith and to show good intent, it's still horrible and worse, it's terribly disuniting that it serves absolutely no good purpose except the opposite, create division. And that's exactly what the enemy wants and wishes for. But little do these well-intentioned people know that.

I'm talking about some people from the forum,I don't remember specifically which,I might have some screenshots but I don't remember. Apart from the Turkish and Bosnian members I mean,there were some Pakistanis and other Muslims who were fanatically against Armenia and pro-Azerbaijan for some reason. Probably disinformation and thinking that "Ummah can't be wrong,so it's Armenians who are the bad guys"

I'll be honest with ya, it's actually a bit disturbing that you keep screenshots of certain people's comments to throw them back at them. I admit I was a bit kerfuffled when you opened the trunk on me in the KAAN thread using that tactic, bro. Dang, man wut up with that?

 

[Musings]

It was, but now it is jewish region. Accept this fact.

You are an imbecile.
I have told you on numerous times stop trying to take this thread into a history discussion. Every other week you have an urge to mentally masturbate and start posting about the history. This thread is about the current conflict.
How many warnings have I given you? Then other members start responding and you succeed in derailing of thread…. It won’t happen again. Bye

 

[Musings]

I'm talking about some people from the forum,I don't remember specifically which,I might have some screenshots but I don't remember. Apart from the Turkish and Bosnian members I mean,there were some Pakistanis and other Muslims who were fanatically against Armenia and pro-Azerbaijan for some reason. Probably disinformation and thinking that "Ummah can't be wrong,so it's Armenians who are the bad guys"

What’s this got to do with the actual topic? One more off topic and I will give you an automatic ban
Anyone else starting to going off topic will get infractions

 

[UKBengali]

Okay then, please go ahead and tell the UN that and see how far that takes your argument.

So you have nothing as a come back then?


UN is controlled(via SC veto) by states like US/UK that are Zionist vassals and so that is going to be pointless.


Entity is illegitimate and should never have been created in Palestine.

 

[Meengla]

Payback is going to be a bitch for these settlers. The smart ones would have fled way before the time comes for the destruction of the entity.

Colonel Larry Wilkinson, an American vet, who comes to the Judge Napolitano's show on You Tube, keeps saying that Israel won't last 20 years; he started saying that 3-4 years ago, I think. I think 20 years is charitable: I give Israel 10 years in its current form should it not mend its ways. Israel cannot win in a regional war!

The Resistance forces against Israel have yet to 'mobilize' and Hezbollah has probably not used even 10% of its arsenal. In case of a regional war, fighters from many Islamic countries would march onto Palestine. I hope there is no regional war and Israel comes to a reasonable long term deal with the Palestinians very soon because the days of the 1967 war have been long gone. That was the last true Israeli victory--almost 60 years ago.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Gaza will be rebuilt...

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[UKBengali]

Gaza will be rebuilt...

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Good to see but the worry is that the Zionists will just destroy anything that is rebuilt.

 

[VCheng]

So you have nothing as a come back then?


UN is controlled(via SC veto) by states like US/UK that are Zionist vassals and so that is going to be pointless.


Entity is illegitimate and should never have been created in Palestine.

Well, what are you and your cohort going to do about it in any effective manner? That is the real question to end the current conflict one way or the other. Merely wishing for it or claiming righteous morality is clearly not going to do much. Israel was formally admitted to the UNO in 1949, an established historical fact, whether you like it or not. Let us see when Palestine joins the same ranks so that the Palestinians finally have their own state to live is prosperity, dignity and at peace with all their neighbors.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Geolocation of Israeli air defence systems in Haifa:

Iron Dome sites:

32.861719, 35.078534
32.885545, 35.087460
32.892719, 35.079822

Davlid's Sling sites:

32.892510, 35.079944
32.892187, 35.079806

Air defence missile / rocket motor storage:

32.873347, 35.085485 [this entire area]
32.870458, 35.081266

Missile control and guidance factories:

32.877608, 35.092616
32.878680, 35.087174
32.862332, 35.089615

These are based on surveillance footage released by Hezbollah from Haifa. Many of these air defence systems were added to Haifa very recently.

 

[MLK]

To all pro Zionism posters. Zionism is built on a lie, upon a lie, upon a lie, not according to me, but according the greatest Israeli historians and archeologists.
I don't blame your for not taking my word for it but you should at least watch this video below, you're welcome to scrutinise the sources in the video and arrive to the truth.

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Don't believe the narrative In the video blindly but do examine the evidences with an open mind and you'll undoubtedly be forced to reexamine your position.

 

[Foinikas]

Most Muslims will be happy with the eradication of their states and the return of the caliphate empire, with free movement between the lands.

Remember many states were purposefully created by the British in order to divide and rule. Problematic borders were purposefully conceived.

We all yearn for the return of the caliphate. Good old times.

I don't think most Muslims want that,I think they just want their countries to be strong financially,stronger militarily just enough to be taken seriously by big countries and to have governments that actually care for the people and culture. Basically,they want an Ataturk,a Jinnah,a Gamal Abdel Nasser.

 

[Meengla]

I don't put total faith in Col. Macgregor or Scott Ritter because both can be loose talkers, especially Macgregor. But they do have some credible opinion to keep one interested.

In this video, Col. Macgregor is bringing up Israelis using tactical nukes on Lebanon. I had said pages ago that Israelis are not beyond doing that and then claim it was some Hezbollah 'dirty bomb' that detonated on themselves. The madness and level of cruelty and the unwillingness to take casualties is extremely high and so they can resort to anything. This is not some India-Pakistan or even Russia-Ukraine conflict!

Also, He is again saying that Pakistan has an standing offer to Turkey of Pakistani nukes should it come to that.

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[PakFactor]

I was watching this documentary this morning and couldn't help thinking - how long it will take for the people of Gaza to heal...

Srebrenica’s Bone Hunter

How a genocide survivor in Bosnia and his years-long search for human bones continues to inspire hope.

www.aljazeera.com

Please do watch it objectively.

Some mental scars are permanent, and some physical scars are also permanent; all the time in the world will not heal them. Let them remember and pass their stories on, as blood spilling calls for blood spilling.

 

[Developereo]

Thanks for admitting there was no Palestine state had been replaced by Israel, as there was no Palestine state before.

I never claimed there was a Palestinian state before Israel. This reference to a state is your invention to change the subject and try to delegitimize the struggle of the Palestinian people. The region has been called Palestine for centuries. Just as India was called India centuries before a country was created. Does that mean Indians did not exist and live here before the country was created?

I've told you many times the people living on the land, many of them sold their property to Jewish.

In the 1880s, Jews, predominantly Ashkenazi,[2][3] began purchasing land and properties across Ottoman Palestine in order to expand the collective territorial ownership of the Yishuv. Large Jewish corporations and private Jewish buyers led this effort through multiple intermittent transactions that continued after Mandatory Palestine was established in 1918.

Jewish land purchase in Palestine - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Ironically, in your own quote you wrote the words 'Ottoman Palestine', proving my point above.

Coming to the land sales, these were made under Ottoman colonial rule without the consent of a Palestinian self-government. Even today, most countries have laws around foreign ownership of assets. The Palestinians had no such self-government to control these sales.

So there was no robbery nor stealing.


Can you prove otherwise?

Yes I can prove it.

In 1917, when the British colonialists issued the Balfour Declaration reserving the land for Israel, the Jewish population was less than seven percent. You have been shown these numbers before but you keep coming back pretending you don't know them.

This was blatant land theft by the British colonialists to give to the Jews.