Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present
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By an overwhelming majority, the Knesset approved a law proposal to oppose the establishment of a Palestinian state, and in the text of the proposal: “The Knesset strongly opposes the establishment of a Palestinian state in the heart of the Land of Israel, which will constitute an existential threat to the entity of Israel and its citizens, and will lead to the perpetuation of the conflict and destabilization of the region, and it will only take time.” "Shortly until Hamas takes over the state and turns it into an extremist Islamic terrorist base."
maverick
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Only one state solution is possible. Let Palestinians back to their homes, with jews and muslims side by side. But Israel will never ever allow “gentiles” to be amongst them. Zionist Israel is a racist entity and a threat to global peace
Meengla
Elite Member
Correct.
And once we really understand what you are saying. I mean, really understand, then it is not hard to imagine that the ONLY solution in Palestine is through violence. Whether violence delivers now or 10 or 50 years later, only time will tell.
My own prediction remains: Israel is not going to last even 10 years in its current form--or in any form!--unless it radically mends it ways.
Falcon29
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As I've been saying for months. Any Israeli operation in Lebanon will be centered around a rapid ground invasion in order to reduce range of Hezbollah rockets and denying Hezbollah the ability to deploy them in their intended capacity.
It's not going to be three-four weeks of airstrikes, during which Hezbollah can deploy lots of firepower. They can't stop Hezbollah rockets that way. Instead they will target Lebanese state and civilian infrastructure heavily, to put pressure on the state and the people of Lebanon. While rapidly deploy ground forces to distract Hezbollah and deny them ability to deploy their capacity.
This means Hezbollah could even struggle to heavily damage the north. Let alone the Israeli center, which is what needs to be leveled in order to deter Israel.
Israel will immediately try creating buzzer zone up to 15km into Lebanon, pushing Hezbollah short/medium range rockets out of range of more significant cities in the north. And trying to make it extremely lopsided against Lebanon to destroy Lebanese morale.
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Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant threatened Hezbollah on Wednesday with a potential ground invasion of Lebanon that would “be rapid, surprising and decisive,” Israeli media reported.
“We can swiftly shift our main effort from the south to the north in an instant,” Gallant said during a visit to the northern border, according to the Yedioth Ahronoth newspaper.
www.aa.com.tr
It's not going to be three-four weeks of airstrikes, during which Hezbollah can deploy lots of firepower. They can't stop Hezbollah rockets that way. Instead they will target Lebanese state and civilian infrastructure heavily, to put pressure on the state and the people of Lebanon. While rapidly deploy ground forces to distract Hezbollah and deny them ability to deploy their capacity.
This means Hezbollah could even struggle to heavily damage the north. Let alone the Israeli center, which is what needs to be leveled in order to deter Israel.
Israel will immediately try creating buzzer zone up to 15km into Lebanon, pushing Hezbollah short/medium range rockets out of range of more significant cities in the north. And trying to make it extremely lopsided against Lebanon to destroy Lebanese morale.
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Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant threatened Hezbollah on Wednesday with a potential ground invasion of Lebanon that would “be rapid, surprising and decisive,” Israeli media reported.
“We can swiftly shift our main effort from the south to the north in an instant,” Gallant said during a visit to the northern border, according to the Yedioth Ahronoth newspaper.
War with Hezbollah will be ‘quick, surprising and decisive,’: Israeli defense minister
‘We can swiftly shift our main effort from the south to the north in an instant,” Yoav Gallant says in visit to northern border - Anadolu Ajansı
www.aa.com.tr
UKBengali
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As I've been saying for months. Any Israeli operation in Lebanon will be centered around a rapid ground invasion in order to reduce range of Hezbollah rockets and denying Hezbollah the ability to deploy them in their intended capacity.
It's not going to be three-four weeks of airstrikes, during which Hezbollah can deploy lots of firepower. They can't stop Hezbollah rockets that way. Instead they will target Lebanese state and civilian infrastructure heavily, to put pressure on the state and the people of Lebanon. While rapidly deploy ground forces to distract Hezbollah and deny them ability to deploy their capacity.
This means Hezbollah could even struggle to heavily damage the north. Let alone the Israeli center, which is what needs to be leveled in order to deter Israel.
Israel will immediately try creating buzzer zone up to 15km into Lebanon, pushing Hezbollah short/medium range rockets out of range of more significant cities in the north. And trying to make it extremely lopsided against Lebanon to destroy Lebanese morale.
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Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant threatened Hezbollah on Wednesday with a potential ground invasion of Lebanon that would “be rapid, surprising and decisive,” Israeli media reported.
“We can swiftly shift our main effort from the south to the north in an instant,” Gallant said during a visit to the northern border, according to the Yedioth Ahronoth newspaper.
War with Hezbollah will be ‘quick, surprising and decisive,’: Israeli defense minister
‘We can swiftly shift our main effort from the south to the north in an instant,” Yoav Gallant says in visit to northern border - Anadolu Ajansı
Hezbollah heavy mortars, rockets and anti-tank missile will destroy any invading Zionist terrorist force before they even come close to the Lebanese border.
Zionist entity has no military options against Hezbollah.
Falcon29
Elite Member
Hezbollah should slightly increase range of rocket fire and intensity. Netanyahu/Israel are aiming to do something in end of July or August. They want to catch Hezbollah by surprise with a rapid ground invasion and massive aerial campaign. This will spare their major cities from Hezbollah's rocket range and will be a big failure by Hezbollah as everything they've built over the years will be difficult to deploy.
For following reasons:
-Fighters will need to defend against ground invasion
-Destruction of entire blocks will make it difficult to plant launchers or access existing ones
-Israeli control over parts of Southern Lebanon will make these launchers inaccessible
-Hezbollah will not be able to level parts of the north with the number of huge rockets covering that range and will be rendered to precision longer range strikes due to lack of large long range rocket arsenal
-Iraqi factions and factions in Syria can come into play here
Israel is letting Hezbollah feel they're in control of escalation ladder. So ground movements can be predictable. No way will they give Hezbollah ample warning as they will greatly increase material and human costs for Israeli army.
This is assuming they're serious on their threats and there is no backdoor talks between both sides to go to a ceasefire.
For following reasons:
-Fighters will need to defend against ground invasion
-Destruction of entire blocks will make it difficult to plant launchers or access existing ones
-Israeli control over parts of Southern Lebanon will make these launchers inaccessible
-Hezbollah will not be able to level parts of the north with the number of huge rockets covering that range and will be rendered to precision longer range strikes due to lack of large long range rocket arsenal
-Iraqi factions and factions in Syria can come into play here
Israel is letting Hezbollah feel they're in control of escalation ladder. So ground movements can be predictable. No way will they give Hezbollah ample warning as they will greatly increase material and human costs for Israeli army.
This is assuming they're serious on their threats and there is no backdoor talks between both sides to go to a ceasefire.
Falcon29
Elite Member
Don't be overconfident. Weapons are there. But available landmass to use is the problem.
Give you example with Gaza. Most of longer range rockets in Gaza were all stored in the north. That's where much of the firing is done from. Israel carpet bombed the North, reducing much of it to rubble. As a means to punish people of Gaza and ethnically cleanse them. But one side effect was that you could no longer access some weapons stores nor place/utilize existing and new launchers.
With Lebanon, much of what is intended to deploy at the north, of Hezbollah's firepower, is mostly concentrated in southern Lebanon. Without air defense, Israel will keep doing saturation attacks on southern Lebanon leaving no space to deploy launchers even if tens of thousands of rockets are cached underground.
Even then, they believe that can't neutralize Hezbollah missile force. Which is why they're planning for a rapid ground invasion to push people out of southern Lebanon. Israel has dirty tactics and diplomatic cover to do these things. So don't underestimate them.
This is all assuming they will make due on their threats. And not just end the war on Gaza and seek a ceasefire in north.
Falcon29
Elite Member
PakFactor
Elite Member
A one-state solution is not the answer either, as it will cause a demographic crisis for Israel. According to their law passed under the current Prime Minister, Israel is meant to be solely a Jewish-majority state by its very nature.
The Palestinians should be able to relocate to other parts of the world. Currently, it seems that no one, not even their fellow Arabs, wants them. I would even go as far as to say that they have been used by surrounding Arab nations as a buffer. They basically sacrificed their own extended Arab members to the enemy.
hussain0216
Elite Member
As I've been saying for months. Any Israeli operation in Lebanon will be centered around a rapid ground invasion in order to reduce range of Hezbollah rockets and denying Hezbollah the ability to deploy them in their intended capacity.
It's not going to be three-four weeks of airstrikes, during which Hezbollah can deploy lots of firepower. They can't stop Hezbollah rockets that way. Instead they will target Lebanese state and civilian infrastructure heavily, to put pressure on the state and the people of Lebanon. While rapidly deploy ground forces to distract Hezbollah and deny them ability to deploy their capacity.
This means Hezbollah could even struggle to heavily damage the north. Let alone the Israeli center, which is what needs to be leveled in order to deter Israel.
Israel will immediately try creating buzzer zone up to 15km into Lebanon, pushing Hezbollah short/medium range rockets out of range of more significant cities in the north. And trying to make it extremely lopsided against Lebanon to destroy Lebanese morale.
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Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant threatened Hezbollah on Wednesday with a potential ground invasion of Lebanon that would “be rapid, surprising and decisive,” Israeli media reported.
“We can swiftly shift our main effort from the south to the north in an instant,” Gallant said during a visit to the northern border, according to the Yedioth Ahronoth newspaper.
War with Hezbollah will be ‘quick, surprising and decisive,’: Israeli defense minister
‘We can swiftly shift our main effort from the south to the north in an instant,” Yoav Gallant says in visit to northern border - Anadolu Ajansı
Both Hezbollah and Iran should be preparing NOW, or at least should have been preparing for the last 10 months
This was always on the cards and the Israeli will try to do the same thing they did in Gaza
Israel is not subject to the same laws as the rest of the world, they are protected by the utter hypocrisy of the western world and as a result the best thing to do with Israel is respond in the same manner, so if Israel hits a school, strike a Israeli school
This will create deterrence
The problem being the local Arab states are jackals and the biggest hindrance to resistance
The Jews are trying the old colonial method of mass brutality against a native population, to break it's will so that it can do what it wants after
Hezbollah we must remember is a NON STATE ACTOR, and we have to consider to what extent is Iran willing to ramp up the supply and tactics to defeat the Israeli
If only Egypt and Jordan wasn't such scum, we could use the exact same tactics Pakistan used against multiple enemies inside Afghanistan
hussain0216
Elite Member
To relocate Arabs/Palestinians is exactly what the Jews want
We must never tolerate or allow the Jews victory, every crime must be remembered and repaid hundreds of times of in sheer hatred to the Jews
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