Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

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mulj said:
After trump words for which world can not say is it theater for psychological pressure on Hamas or real genocidal threat, only proper answer is all out war against america, israel and anybody who supports intentions of genocide.
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When you look at Trump, his leadership style, his commitments to his people that voted him in and the state of the US and its military, it looks like it is just psychological pressure:

he is threatening military action buuut:
1. he already told his constituents that he doesn't want to be a militaristic president.
2. he doesn't know how to use it (except for quick strike like the Soleimani assassination)
3. US military is broke and low on ammunition (from oversupplying a losing Ukraine) and not actually in good shape (it is afraid to put boots on the ground, because it has a modern history of bad results when it does that)
4. If Hamas and Hezbollah can force Israel to sigh a ceasefire, Trump is probably afraid that a country like Iran or other anti-US forces in the Middle East could force the US into a "ceasefire"also.

Until Trump backs up his threats, we should assume he is bluffing.

Oh, he probably designated Houthis as FTO after he tried secret negotiations and bribes with the Houthis and it didnt work!
 
It appears Israel is not going to resume a full scale assault on Gaza.

Instead it's trying to work behind the scenes to facilitate 'migration' of Palestinians out of Gaza.

By working with other nations seeing who will assist. They will still remain in some areas in and around Gaza. And will attack it here and there. But I don't see us going back to a full scale conflict.

Especially since Netanyahu rather have Gaza in this state, without a functioning government.
 
Falcon29 said:
It appears Israel is not going to resume a full scale assault on Gaza.

Instead it's trying to work behind the scenes to facilitate 'migration' of Palestinians out of Gaza.

By working with other nations seeing who will assist. They will still remain in some areas in and around Gaza. And will attack it here and there. But I don't see us going back to a full scale conflict.

Especially since Netanyahu rather have Gaza in this state, without a functioning government.
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I think it also has much to do with war fatigue among israeli soldiers. Many of them are not reporting for duty. There is a severe lack of discipline in the israeli military.
 
ResurgentIran2 said:
I think it also has much to do with war fatigue among israeli soldiers. Many of them are not reporting for duty. There is a severe lack of discipline in the israeli military.
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Yeah, whatever Hamas was doing near the later stage of the conflict was taking a big toll on the Israeli army. I was surprised by the ambushes Hamas was setting up in northern Gaza. Which was taking 5-7 Israeli soldiers on average a day. Despite these areas in northern Gaza being the most destroyed. The guys that stayed there fought to the end and were somehow rigging explosives on Israeli terrorists sending them to Hell. Alhamdillah.
 
Starlord said:
anyone see Hezbullah ?
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Israel has turned Lebanon into Syria. Meaning they will regularly attack Lebanon but actually more persistently than they would in Syria. Whatever Israel calls 'Hezbollah targets' are being attacked on a weekly basis if not more often.

Hezbollah is not accustomed to such a situation and is going to have to adapt to it. I think sooner or later they'll lose patience and we'll have periods of higher intensity, but ultimately they will work secure important assets and mostly survival of the organization as a whole. Instead of engaging in exchanges of fire, as they lack resources and external support to sustain such a conflict.
 
Falcon29 said:
Israel has turned Lebanon into Syria. Meaning they will regularly attack Lebanon but actually more persistently than they would in Syria. Whatever Israel calls 'Hezbollah targets' are being attacked on a weekly basis if not more often.

Hezbollah is not accustomed to such a situation and is going to have to adapt to it. I think sooner or later they'll lose patience and we'll have periods of higher intensity, but ultimately they will work secure important assets and mostly survival of the organization as a whole. Instead of engaging in exchanges of fire, as they lack resources and external support to sustain such a conflict.
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So basically they got hammered pretty bad, all that videos and bragging was for show ? at Least Hamas holds and fought for far to long than Hezbullah.
 
Starlord said:
So basically they got hammered pretty bad, all that videos and bragging was for show ? at Least Hamas holds and fought for far to long than Hezbullah.
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I think Israel and others far exaggerated their capabilities, or they did a poor job of protecting them. They kind of couldn't afford this war from their perspective and didn't really want to fight it. It went bad in my opinion.

That's why I prefer to avoid hype and buildup and propaganda videos. But Hezbollah will need to get back up and reassess and I expect they'll take the Israeli threat more seriously now.

Hamas was always serious about confronting Israel and Hamas regularly engaged in conflict with Israel and adapted to be the most effective form of itself it could be. What Hamas misread was willingness/readiness of others (Hezbollah, Palestinians in West Bank, Arabs of Jordan and elsewhere ) to join the struggle.

But Hamas is the most experience in combat with Israel like I said in the past and is familiar with Israel's offensive doctrine. It was not prepared for the genocidal wholesale destruction, however, which greatly complicated Hamas's defense plans. But nevertheless, they know Gaza the best and will not leave it or allow IDF forces to roam freely without consequences.
 
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