Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

[VCheng]

Israel did not need October 7 to commit the same crimes it had already been committing in West Bank.

Once again:

What is the total number of deaths and casualties for the one year period before and after October 7? What Hamas did on October only made matters far worse than they otherwise ever would have been.

 

[Unknowntruth]

Once again:

What is the total number of deaths and casualties for the one year period before and after October 7? What Hamas did on October only made matters far worse than they otherwise ever would have been.

Once again,

Blaming the people for resisting their oppression. Yet ignoring the realities of what was happening and continues to happen in West Bank where their is no Hamas.

Why do you have the same talking points as Zionists?

You can twist and turn to blame a people under oppression and occupation but you will not be able to run from it.

They have a word for people like you

“House negro”

 

[VCheng]

Blaming the people for resisting their oppression. Yet ignoring the realities of what was happening and continues to happen

I am not blaming anyone.

The Palestinians have every right to respond as they wish. But they should also be prepared for what the other side in the conflict will do to respond.

I am merely pointing out the fact that what happened on Octover 7 only made matters for worse for the Palestinians than before. That is a FACT.

Where things go on from here is up to the actions and reactions taken by both sides.

That is all.

 

[Unknowntruth]

I am not blaming anyone.

The Palestinians have every right to respond as they wish. But they should also be prepared for what the other side in the conflict will do to respond.

I am merely pointing out the fact that what happened on Octover 7 only made matters for worse for the Palestinians than before. That is a FACT.

Where things go on from here is up to the actions and reactions taken by both sides.

That is all.

Once again,

No Hamas in West Bank yet 2023 before October 7 was deadliest year for Palestinians. Also killings and other crimes have been on the upswing long before October 7.

Israel did not need October 7 for what it was already doing. Get up off your knees.

 

[VCheng]

No Hamas in West Bank yet 2023 before October 7 was deadliest year for Palestinians.

Once again, please read the title of this thread.

As I said, where things go on from here is up to the actions and reactions taken by both sides. Neither side can escape the consequences of their own respective actions. Not the Israelis, and not the Palestinians either.

That is the reality.

 

[Unknowntruth]

Once again, please read the title of this thread.

As I said, where things go on from here is up to the actions and reactions taken by both sides. Neither side can escape the consequences of their own respective actions. Not the Israelis, and not the Palestinians either.

That is the reality.

Once again,

Keep distorting reality. Palestinians didn’t choose to be occupied but Zionist choose to occupy and ethnically cleanse long before October 7.

That’s the only difference.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Hezbollah statement on Israel bombing civilian humanitarian ship in international waters:

While we call for the broadest international and Arab condemnation of this crime, which exposes the true nature of the Zionist enemy, we also call for the protection of the ship, its crew, and the activists on board, and for caution against the treachery of the Israeli enemy, which years ago did not hesitate to target the Mavi Marmara and kill a number of its passengers.

 

[VCheng]

Palestinians didn’t choose to be occupied but Zionist choose to occupy and ethnically cleanse long before October 7.

The real question here is how to resolve the situation that exists already?

Doing things that make matters worse rather than better is not a good strategy to move closer towards a solution that works for both sides.

 

[Unknowntruth]

The real question here is how to resolve the situation that exists already?

Doing things that make matters worse rather than better is not a good strategy to mover closer towards a solution that works for both sides.

You tell me how to solve a situation in which one people have and continue to ethnically cleanse another people.

You mean like Oslo? What happened there? More killings, occupation, illegal settlements, settler violence, land grabs, etc

Tell me how this should be solved. I don’t see a solution where you can live with someone who wants your land and you dead. And acting on it too.

 

[VCheng]

Tell me how this should be solved. I don’t see a solution where you can live with someone who wants your land and you dead.

If no solution can be found, and there is a great disparity between the two sides, what is likely to happen is what we can observe already.

Does this mean that doing more of the same by both sides will help in any way but merely hasten the inevitable outcome?

Or does this highlight the importance oa change of strategy to move matters to a better direction, step by step.

What that might entail precisely is for the two sides to decide, and no one else.

 

[Flotilla]

Look how she is arrested and searched while she calls for an end of the killings, while Ben-Gvir the massmurderer can walk freely in the sane hallway.

She is Jewish herself.

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Yes, I think she started the NGO called "Code Pink" which has a YouTube channel also. She was from first month of the Genocide harassing members of the US Congress and Senate and people related with AIPAC. Yes, she is jewish and brave, very brave. I respect her a lot.

 

[Unknowntruth]

If no solution can be found, and there is a great disparity between the two sides, what is likely to happen is what we can observe already.

Does this mean that doing more of the same by both sides will help in any way but merely hasten the inevitable outcome?

Or does this highlight the importance oa change of strategy to move matters to a better direction, step by step.

What that might entail precisely is for the two sides to decide, and no one else.

Why do you keep talking circles?

There is no solution with someone who wants your land and you dead. Israel has always used the 2 state process to occupy more land, evict Palestinians, kill with impunity, build roads between villages splitting them in half and caging them in small outposts, endorse settler violence, etc

No matter what the Palestinians do and give, Israel is not going to stop ethnically cleansing Palestinians for their “promised land”.

That is the reality, you can choose to close your eyes but doesn’t change the facts from this colonizing racist entity.

 

[VCheng]

There is no solution with someone who wants your land and you dead.

Well, if that is the conclusion of both sides, then the conflict must go on until one or the other side is vanquished.

 

[Unknowntruth]

Well, if that is the conclusion of both sides, then the conflict must go on until one or the other side is vanquished.

This is how one side conducts itself with impunity and it’s not the Palestinians. There might be two sides but only one side that is actively stealing more land, killing with impunity, and playing victim as it seeks to colonize a people.

 

[Sultan Baybars]

Once again:

What is the total number of deaths and casualties for the one year period before and after October 7? What Hamas did on October only made matters far worse than they otherwise ever would have been.

If you analyze the Israeli politic and militairy-strategic decision and the million dollar bribes with Qatar, then you will see that the Israeli genocide and ethnic cleansing campaign was a long term plan.

They would invade and annex Gaza anyway, it was a strategic plan from the ‘70s.

The actions of Hamas and the hostages didnt make it worse, it only accelerated the Israeli plan.