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Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present
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That_Guy
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Everything is a lie?
- Tuesday, February 13, 2024
Everything the anti-Israel side says is a lie. With Rafah, the lies are getting even bigger.
Rafah is now what Gaza always has been, but more.
It now has more civilians, it is where much of the aid arrives, and it is where the bulk of the remaining Hamas forces are concentrated.
Just as with the past four months, Egypt and Jordan are dead set against allowing Gazans to flee - and their rhetoric has increased, with Egypt threatening to scuttle the peace treaty with Israel if Gazans escape past its series of fences and walls.
Anti-Israel organizations are ramping up the already existing industry of lies to hysterical and uber-exaggerated. They are replacing "Gaza" with "Rafah" and putting all their resources into trying to pressure Israel not to attack Hamas there.
The lies about Rafah are insane. Jewish Voice for Peace wrote Monday, "Last night, the Israeli military bombed the over 1.4 million displaced Palestinians the Israeli government forced into Rafah. This is genocide."
Really? They bombed 1.4 million people? They must have really bad aim!
The US Campaign for Palestinian Rights says Israel is merely threatening to exterminate 1.4 million people:
Amnesty says civilians in Rafah "are facing the real and imminent risk of genocide."
Palestinian Red Crescent says any Israeli operations would be a "death sentence" for 1.4 million people.
What do all of these statements have in common? They are exactly the message that Iran and Hamas want the world to hear.
Hamas' war has been a war of public relations more than a war of bullets. Hamas Gaza leader Yahya Sinwar, who prides himself as knowing Israeli psychology inside out, bet that Israel would cave under pressure and allow Hamas to survive the way it did in previous wars. He knows that Israel is sensitive to world opinion and world pressure is his major strategic asset. This is why human shields are an integral part of Hamas' strategy - dead children, real or imagined, are his guarantee that he will survive.
Israel isn't playing by the same rules any more. It is certainly following international law in its attacks, but it is adhering to the way other nations interpret it, not the overly cautious way it had been following it in previous wars. This time it is too important to utterly destroy Hamas as a threat, and this is a valid military goal - anything goes in that pursuit as long s it does not violate the principles of distinction and proportionality.
But Sinwar and Iran bet the farm on Israel's sensitivity to world opinion. And they see that the US and UK are starting to waver, to criticize, to show a shakier support for Israel.
This is why the effort by Hamas and Hamas allies - including "human rights groups" - to shame Israel as genocidal has been redoubled for Rafah.
Rafah is critical to Hamas' survival. The bulk of aid goes through Rafah where Hamas can take all it needs first. There are widely believed to still be major tunnels from the Palestinian side to the Egyptian side of Rafah where weapons and people can be imported or smuggled out. Without Rafah, Hamas is toast.
So the pressure is mounting. And Israel is responding in the only possible way it can: assuring its allies that it will do everything possible to minimize harm to civilians but making clear that the effort to destroy Hamas is paramount.
Every Gaza civilian death is the result of Hamas' war strategy. That is the message that real human rights campaigners would be pushing if they were honest, and not on Hamas' side.
Everything the anti-Israel side says is a lie. With Rafah, the lies are getting even bigger.
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Outside of one incident, which itself is still not clear, pretty much 99% of the pro-Palestinian side has been accurate, while Israel has been caught lying multiple times.
All the times Israel claimed tunnels ended up being lies. Remember the command center under the hospital, which ended up turning out that Israel itself had been the one to build it?
I know you won't change your mind, so this comment is less for you, and mostly for everyone else.
Falcon29
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Hamas has been thrown under the bus by the whole region. Two-three major regional parties see themselves as better off without Hamas. They don't want Palestinian cause to come up at all and want to move on from it. They also hate Islam that Hamas professes and view at as a threat to their governments. And Hamas's allies itself don't like Hamas and view it as dragging them towards a real confrontation with Israel and potentially the US while they prefer their 'resistance' remain non-confrontational. Each have a piece of their cake in the region that they're happy with. Personally don't trust any of them and people and region are better if they disappear. Hamas going underground won't change that.
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The Israeli Army to Al-Arabiya: We will not stop the war and we hope that the negotiations in Cairo will lead to a deal
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The Israeli Army to Al-Arabiya: We will not stop the war and we hope that the negotiations in Cairo will lead to a deal
VCheng
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Hamas poked a grumpy bear in the rear and expects the regional and global powers to come save the Palestinians. Smart strategy if it works for them.
Unknowntruth
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Why do you always have to be so condescending? Always gotta have your little underhanded remarks, huh?
Falcon29
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Israel is not a bear. It's Arabs and Muslims which lie and are hypocrites. And never uphold their promises. Nor have a consistent policy or a set of principles they follow. Except the principle of self indulgence they can be consistent on, and will throw each other under the bus if it suits them.
Hamas have the region and it's people a opportunity to change the status quo for decades to come. And they didn't take it.
Unknowntruth
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So you are going to ignore the 75 years of oppression, occupation, killing with impunity, humiliation, etc?
I don’t know how you were ever made a mod. It’s clear what your agenda is which is a defender of colonizers. Thats why you always get your panties in a bunch whenever someone criticizes the West double standard and hypocrisy.
VCheng
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It is an honest comment on the Palestinians right to defend themselves. Nothing condescending about that at all. As I also said above: Hamas poked a grumpy bear in the rear and expects the regional and global powers to come save the Palestinians. Smart strategy if it works for them.
VCheng
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Then why blame others for their failures to help the Palestinians?
Unknowntruth
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You are anything but honest. Your underhanded comments and condescending tone speaks volume to your character and your actual thoughts.
Unknowntruth
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You’re just mad we are exposing the hypocrisy, double standard, and colonial mindset you are fond of.
VCheng
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Please identify what part of my words you think are dishonest? My words convey my honest thoughts very clearly.
VCheng
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Please do so as best as possible. I have no favorites here. I hope your efforts pay off as good as you wish.
Unknowntruth
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Once again, you are anything but honest with your constant underhanded comments and condescending tone. You like to play you are impartial but anyone with a 3rd grade education knows where you stand and your intention. For one, you like to Blame Arabs and Muslims yet refuse to acknowledge the West complicity in all of this.
Why would you though? You are here to defend colonizers and cry when confronted. Please go cry to mods about how we are so unfair to you.
Unknowntruth
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Isn’t it funny you always reply to anyone speaking for Palestinian rights and completely ignore the Zionists here? Then whine when we criticize the West for their genocide support.
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