Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

[Unknowntruth]

@War Lord

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[Developereo]

Oh, here is a joyous article! Not only it laments Israel's lack of support in the world but also worried about America's dwindling support to Israel. Enjoy!!

Most people vastly underestimate the Zionist chokehold on the major Western governments and media. What we are seeing now is not even close to their max potential since most major Western governments are doing Israel's bidding. If any Western politician gets too uppity, the Zionist machine can ramp up the pressure on them far more to give them a reality check.

While many non-Muslim voters may not like what Israel is doing, it is not their major issue when they go to the voting booth. Western politicians will make conciliatory statements to placate the critics of Israel but they will never take any action that is seriously detrimental to Israel.

International court rulings can be, and actively are, ignored by the major powers.

Bottom line: those who can, do, while those who can't make noises or complain.

 

[Falcon29]

Of course they can. Nothing can stop the people. Nothing. Where are the widespread protests? Commercial boycotts? Social ostracization? And yet, there is nothing of the sort that could be effective. Why is that? It will take a little bit more than mere social media hysterics to be effective, dare I say it.

Here I agree. Actions speak louder than words. It's not the 60's anymore where you had everyone come out against the Vietnam war.

 

[Meengla]

Israel is not like other countries. Remember Europe fought blood and sweat to fullfill Theodor Herzl’s ambition.
They’ll never abandon them over brown people. Don’t be naive.
The only way to stop this is when those Arab countries and the Muslim world stand up and grow some balls. The pressure will be enormous.

Nah. Antisemitism was prevalent throughout Europe and Hitler is unfairly singled out. Eugenics was experimented in America too but Hitler is singled out. Jews were hunted down throughout the Christian Europe, Jewish refugees boats were turned away from America, the British fought against the Jews in Palestine pre 1948 and the Europeans finally found a solution via ethnic cleansing by creating Israel.
It is simply the Israeli Lobby in cahoots with the Military Industrial Complex and the Christian Zionists who dictate the American ME policy; once the candidates in the US Primaries will be able to fight off various lobbies then it will be a more balanced American foreign policy. Please read the article I posted above--it is from an Israeli source and correctly says that except for America, Israel has no friends. Europe WILL follow America when America changes its stance.

But I agree with you that until there is change in the American foreign policy, only Arab/Muslim united stand using some muscle will force Israel to stop.

 

[VCheng]

Here I agree. Actions speak louder than words. It's not the 60's anymore where you had everyone come out against the Vietnam war.

Which is also why I find this thread - over 11K posts, over 300K views, and increasing rapidly still - as not much more than hysterics, histrionics and polemics, and not much else.

 

[Falcon29]

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[Developereo]

Antisemitism was prevalent throughout Europe

Ironically, anti-Semitism in the West HELPS Israel. Many Jews lament that the reason Europeans supported and support Israel is so that the Jews will leave Europe and go live somewhere else.

To paraphrase the Chinese proverb, Israel doesn't care if the cat is white or black as long as it supports Israel.

 

[Solomon2]

@War Lord

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"I am personally proud of the ruins of Gaza, and that every baby, even 80 years from now, will tell their grandchildren what the Jews did when their families were murdered and raped and their civilians were kidnapped.

"You and your friends can dream that we will allow you to build a government because if you think that the prize for the rape of women, beheading and the kidnapping of civilians, will be to sit in a "government of change" you are dreaming. You can keep shouting, "Peace Now" and "Elections Now" from Kaplan[?] to Gaza, let them hear you. "

"We have a mission - I am concluding - and the last thing we will allow you is for Ofer Cassif to go up to the Temple Mount with a flag of Palestine and for Sinwar to be Minister of Defense for the Palestinian state, like his brother Arafat. Not a dove not an olive branch but only a sword to cut off Sinwar's head that's what he will receive from us..."

 

[Falcon29]

Which is also why I find this thread - over 11K posts, over 300K views, and increasing rapidly still - as not much more than hysterics, histrionics and polemics, and not much else.

In America, a effective force could be a pro-Palestine AIPAC-like lobbying group. These days people are afraid of demonstrating. And people are focused on their livelihoods and getting to work. So it's just as much as America's tragedy as anyone else's.

 

[Solomon2]

Which is also why I find this thread - over 11K posts, over 300K views, and increasing rapidly still - as not much more than hysterics, histrionics and polemics, and not much else.

Repeated over and over with little variation, It is a form of intimidation.

 

[VCheng]

In America, a effective force could be a pro-Palestine AIPAC-like lobbying group. These days people are afraid of demonstrating. And people are focused on their livelihoods and getting to work. So it's just as much as America's tragedy as anyone else's.

As I have said before, all of humanity carries a shared responsibility to stop this carnage. Me included.

 

[r3alist]

As I have said before, all of humanity carries a shared responsibility to stop this carnage. Me included.

Feel free to spend less time on this thread

 

[PakFactor]

Most people vastly underestimate the Zionist chokehold on the major Western governments and media. What we are seeing now is not even close to their max potential since most major Western governments are doing Israel's bidding. If any Western politician gets too uppity, the Zionist machine can ramp up the pressure on them far more to give them a reality check.

While many non-Muslim voters may not like what Israel is doing, it is not their major issue when they go to the voting booth. Western politicians will make conciliatory statements to placate the critics of Israel but they will never take any action that is seriously detrimental to Israel.

International court rulings can be, and actively are, ignored by the major powers.

Bottom line: those who can, do, while those who can't make noises or complain.

The effectiveness of a ruling depends on the ability to enforce it.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

Ironically, anti-Semitism in the West HELPS Israel. Many Jews lament that the reason Europeans supported and support Israel is so that the Jews will leave Europe and go live somewhere else.

To paraphrase the Chinese proverb, Israel doesn't care if the cat is white or black as long as it supports Israel.

In fact, before this conflict started ... calling out every single thing that transpired since then... was actively branded and swept under the rug of anti sementi!
The bankers/lenders, money and finance, the bought out politicians and co-opted political discourse, the appropriated media and coerced masses... on and on.

The bunker mentality and fatalist out look. The garb of chosen people, yet a war against GOD!

Every single thing is a corruption, antithesis of the original... the forsaken are vengeful and humans are just a mere casualty in that war against their lord!
Imagine, just a few months back you couldn't have explained it away... it stands naked today!

 

[Solomon2]

As I said...

"Proud of the gas chambers"? You are one very sick person.