Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

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Who is being asked to stop, lets get that part out in the open first. Who are YOU asking to stop first in your post above?

Ceasefires, by definition, are for all combatants, and have a specified time to begin, for everyone to agree upon to implement simultaneously.
 
The casualties are indeed horrendous., an innocent population caught in between a proxy war, that never should have happened, and even now must be stopped immediately.
the genocide the nazi Zionist entity is committing in Gaza is not a 'proxy war'
 
Iran is involved in this war. By proxy.
this 'war' of American F-35s dropping American mk-84 2000lb bombs on Palestinian children in Gaza.

Palestinian resistance to settler colonialism occupation and ethnic cleansing is natural and organic. Mossad directors have said they would even join Hamas if they were born in the open air prison in Gaza, your empty words just seek to remove agency from Palestinians and create some kind of moral equivalence between genocidal settlers and native inhabitants, as usual.
 
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And supported by Iran, or are you denying that fact?
I am very proud of Iran's support for the oppressed and occupied Palestinians as they resist decades of settler colonialism, ethnic cleansing and genocide. But Palestinian resistance to Zionist genocide and barbarism precedes Iran's support and Iran's support for the Palestinians does not come close to the support Israel receives from the USA and Europe.

Also, you edited the words in my quote. That is very dirty behaviour.
 
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This is the scumbag pictured above:
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His name is Eliezer Shekhtman, he moved from Chicago in the US to settle in Kfar Tapuach ( A notorious hard-core settlement) in the occupied west bank. Kfar Tapuach was established in 1978 on land which Israel had confiscated from the Palestinian town of Yasuf[1]

[1]http://vprofile.arij.org/salfit/pdfs/vprofile/Yasuf_vp_en.pdf

Shekhtman’s friends were part of the so-called hilltop youth, a loosely affiliated group of Jewish settlers in their teens and 20s who live away from their parents on the hilltops surrounding established settlements. Members of the group have perpetrated so-called “price tag” attacks, using firebombs and spray paint to damage Palestinian property in retribution for Palestinian violence, or as a way of lashing out against the Israeli military.

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Their Livelihoods in Flames: Palestinian protesters stand amid blazes set by settlers to their olive groves last October near Yitzhar, a West Bank settlement known as a bastion for extremists. Image by Getty Images

Now, 10 years on, the hilltop youth are an established entity. Several hundred adolescents from both sides of the Green Line — including some girls — roam the West Bank hills. Some are yeshiva dropouts. Others are students of Rabbi Yitzchak Ginsburgh of Od Yosef Chai yeshiva, in Yitzhar. Ginsburgh, a prominent scholar of Kabbalah and a member of the Chabad-Lubavitch Hasidic movement, has concocted a potent ideological brew for this new generation of Jewish radicals, spouting mystical admonitions to live in nature and Kabbalah-based rationales for Jewish racial superiority and violence against Arabs.
Meanwhile, two other prominent rabbis at Od Yosef Chai have given the hilltop youths’ penchant for attacking Arabs even stronger religious legitimacy.

In their 2010 book, “The King’s Torah (Torat Hamelech), Part One: Laws of Life and Death Between Israel and the Nations,” Rabbis Yitzhak Shapira and Yosef Elitzur declared, “The prohibition ‘Thou Shalt Not Murder’” applies only “to a Jew who kills a Jew.” Non-Jews, they wrote, are “uncompassionate by nature” and assaults on them “curb their evil inclination,” while infants and children of Israel’s enemies may be killed, since “it is clear that they will grow to harm us.”

^ Basically if you didn't understand this quote - Rabbi Shapria and Elitzur have advocated for the killing of non-Jewish babies!

Up until 2013, Od Yosef Chai yeshiva received government funding and support. It has also received money from American donors. While “The King’s Torah” sparked a scandal in the mainstream press, the book’s wide dissemination in Israeli bookstores, and its enthusiastic endorsement by several prominent rabbis gave the authors’ ideas currency.[2]

[2] https://english.wafa.ps/Pages/Details/108436

The Hilltop Youth were behind an arson attack in the Palestinian village of Duma during July 2016, which killed an 18-month-old infant and his parents:
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Still, some scholars say that the hilltop youth are acting not on any religious authority but on their own violent convictions. For years, its members have been committing vigilante acts against Palestinians, torching olive groves and defacing mosques.

It also turned out that several of those detained as part of the Duma investigation have U.S. citizenship. That may reflect the disproportionate presence of Americans among settlers overall. According to Sara Yael Hirschhorn, an Oxford University scholar, some 15% of all settlers are Americans, compared with 2% to 3% of all Israeli citizens. The prominence of Americans among those detained echoes the historic leadership roles Americans have played in Israel’s contemporary right-wing radicalism, from Kahane, a native New Yorker, to Ginsburgh, who was born in St. Louis and spent much of his youth in Philadelphia, and Baruch Goldstein, the Brooklyn born-and-raised physician who in 1994 murdered 29 Muslims at prayer at the Cave of the Patriarchs, a site in Hebron holy to Muslims and Jews. [3]

[3]https://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/06/opinion/sunday/israeli-terrorists-born-in-the-usa.html?_r=1

Azulay’s hilltop activities, however, got him into trouble with the Shin Bet. He said that he was passed over for the army — many hilltop youth are considered too dangerous to serve in the Israel Defense Forces — but later convinced a Shin Bet agent to reconsider him. Eventually he became the head of security in Itamar.I went from a situation in which they didn’t want me to have a gun to where I became a commander in the army, and then here I was, in charge of the guns in Itamar, and I had 150, 160 guns here,” he said.

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BUT DO YOU CONDEMN HAMAS?
 
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I am very proud of Iran's support for the oppressed and occupied Palestinians as they resist decades of settler colonialism, ethnic cleansing and genocide. But Palestinian resistance to Zionist genocide and barbarism precedes Iran's support and Iran's support for the Palestinians does not come close to the support Israel receives from the USA and Europe.

Thank you for not denying that fact.

Hence, my comment that the innocent population is paying the horrendous price for being caught in a war by proxy between Iran and Israel.
 
Thank you for not denying that fact.

Hence, my comment that the innocent population is paying the horrendous price for being caught in a war by proxy between Iran and Israel.
Iran supports Palestinians = proxy war with Iran
USA supports Israel = not a proxy war with USA

Your logic shows your pro-genocide bias and agenda, as usual.
 
Iran supports Palestinians = proxy war with Iran
USA supports Israel = not a proxy war with USA

Your logic shows your pro-genocide bias and agenda, as usual.

Would you agree that what you described above is a war by proxy nonetheless? What Iran is trying to do here by trying to draw in USA will eventually have consequences that both will have to deal with, rest assured.
 
Oh so the people starving can go to hell as per your logic?

Where did I say that Sir? You asked who should stop firing first, and I clarified that ceasefires work only when simultaneous, that is all.
 
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