Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

[VCheng]

It is not about who “set fire”. It is about what Israel has been doing for over 75 years which is kill, evict, oppress and steal Palestinian land. When this stops, there will be peace.

Step 1 for now MUST be to implement an immediate ceasefire and send in massive amounts of humanitarian aid. Everything else can come later.

 

[Unknowntruth]

This is the document of the policies and goals of Hamas:

https://irp.fas.org/world/para/docs/hamas-2017.pdf

I know what their goals are and Hamas was only created because of occupation. They stated they would agree to 1967 borders. They would be no Hamas or any other resistance groups without occupation and oppression. They have clearly defined their war is not with the Jewish people but of Zionists and their crimes against the Palestinian people.

Posting a link is what? State your points .

 

[Developereo]

Like I have said many times before, regardless of what one regards as the righteous or the usurper side, how does one effectively resolve a geopolitical issue with the horrible casualties that we are seeing for so many months? That is the real question. Arguing who set fire to the building that both live in is no reason to fight the fire only after one side or the other concedes.

As others have pointed out, you made a number of false assertions then, when called on them, you are back to your zero content vague platitudes.

Now you will throw a drama queen tantrum whining that people are not nice to you.

Please provide concrete, realistic suggestions of what should be done that is not already being done.

 

[VCheng]

The British really are huge blobs of excrement. It was their meddling that came up with the 1889 campaign and the wet dreams of Balfour that lead to all this.

Again, how we got here is not as important as where do we all go from here. After all, we cannot go back into the past to reverse what has happened, but we must figure out a way to what should be done to resolve in the present for a better future for everyone.

 

[Unknowntruth]

Step 1 for now MUST be to implement an immediate ceasefire and send in massive amounts of humanitarian aid. Everything else can come later.

No one is arguing against that.

What has been achieved with Palestinians signing Oslo and giving up their weapons? More occupation , land theft (illegal settlements” in West Bank , killing with impunity, harassment, etc

There is no alternatives for Palestinians. It is either die a slow death or resist. Stop playing games like Israel or these Zionist colonizers wants peace.

Time and time again they have used peace talks to advance illegal settlements. The only people suffering and living under occupation in their own land are the Palestinian people.

 

[VCheng]

They stated they would agree to 1967 borders.

Please read that entire paragraph. That is not all what it says. The link is there so that everyone can read the reference for themselves.

 

[VCheng]

No one is arguing against that.

What has been achieved with Palestinians signing Oslo and giving up their weapons? More occupation , land theft (illegal settlements” in West Bank , killing with impunity, harassment, etc

There is no alternatives for Palestinians. It is either die a slow death or resist. Stop playing games like Israel or these Zionist colonizers wants peace.

Time and time again they have used peace talks to advance illegal settlements. The only people suffering are the Palestinian people.

As I said above: How we got here is not as important as where do we all go from here. After all, we cannot go back into the past to reverse what has happened, but we must figure out a way to what should be done to resolve in the present for a better future for everyone.

 

[RescueRanger]

Again, how we got here is not as important as where do we all go from here. After all, we cannot go back into the past to reverse what has happened, but we must figure out a way to what should be done to resolve in the present for a better future for everyone.

Sir,

How can we discuss “a better future” when the hawkish far right have taken over the reigns in Israel.

You can’t discuss peace with a gun to your head. Thats coercive behaviour and Israel has done it time and time again.

 

[Indos]

No one is arguing against that.

What has been achieved with Palestinians signing Oslo and giving up their weapons? More occupation , land theft (illegal settlements” in West Bank , killing with impunity, harassment, etc

There is no alternatives for Palestinians. It is either die a slow death or resist. Stop playing games like Israel or these Zionist colonizers wants peace.

Time and time again they have used peace talks to advance illegal settlements. The only people suffering are the Palestinian people.

Easy for you who live in US to say that

 

[Dalit]

Meanwhile in US - among conservatives.

Ben Jew Shapiro has been exposed to the bone after Candace Owens saga.

That black lady turned out to be a lethal bomb against Zionists.

Americans are seeing now how such tiny group has so much control over US.

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A lot of the Zionist lies are falling apart. Many particularly young people in the West are now witnessing with their own eyes just how crooked certain powers are.

 

[RescueRanger]

Easy for you who live in US to say that

Brother you do realise he is Palestinian and has family there. Please be more mindful with your choice of criticism.

Let’s not go down the path of victim blaming on our criticism of other viewpoints.

 

[Unknowntruth]

Please read that entire paragraph. That is not all what it says. The link is there so that everyone can read the reference for themselves.

Look up the updated Hamas charter and read it for yourself. Stop playing games. I know what it says.

 

[VCheng]

Sir,

How can we discuss “a better future” when the hawkish far right have taken over the reigns in Israel.

You can’t discuss peace with a gun to your head. Thats coercive behaviour and Israel has done it time and time again.

I agree. But the question remains as I asked. Where do we go from here? You must know how geopolitics work in reality, not as we may wish ideally.

Just because I refuse to given in to anger and frustration to descend into insanity does not make me the enemy. One must think the best during the hardest times.

 

[muhammed45]

Exactly. He is more slippery than an eel. At least I managed to get him to admit to being a Zionist ("do not see why there is any reason to oppose" Zionism). An ethnostate built on the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians apparently is not a good enough reason. View attachment 30396

He is a paid propagandist. His views and comments mostly represents WashingtonPost in my mind.

Interesting claims my by this paid agent can be mentioned as follows

1) Iran is the reason why Palestinians fight back and also that's why Israel kills babies and occupies Palestinian lands

2) Shias and Sunnis are enemies of each and Muslims are always in internal fight. Every dispute between Islamic countries in general must be viewed through that glass of religious differences. Not political, but only religious. For example if Iran warns Islamic country of X is because that X country is a Sunni majority society.

3) Zionism is nationalism not terrorism but resistance against occupation is equal to terrorism.

4) Babies killed in Palestine are collateral damage and in fact Israel has done nothing wrong

5) If I had to choose between a Palestinian kid and an Israeli kid, I would say, the Palestinian child/infant has to be a collateral damage in order to avoid Israeli kids be threatened.

6) Palestinians and generally Muslims have no right to fight back and any kind of self defense for Muslims is an act of terrorism.

See? You are talking to a professional paid agent. Slippery is one side of him.

 

[VCheng]

Look up the updated Hamas charter and read it for yourself. Stop playing games. I know what it says.

Please post the link to the document to which you refer so that it can be read directly as a reference.