Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present
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Khansaheeb
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Europeans are genociding by proxy , it's like aiding and abetting murder.
Funny thing is the US has a law where a parent is responsible for the crimes of his child, which means then that the US and UK are responsible for their bastard child Israel's crimes:-
RescueRanger
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Israel's plan is to permanently cut Gaza into two...
PaklovesTurkiye
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Hopefully Spain is next in recognising Palestinian state
FuturePAF
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The US squandered the unipolar moment of the 90s and Oslo accords to make a Palestinian state, with all the safeguards they and the Israelis wanted, that could have solidified the global order the US had hoped to create in the Middle East.
Now the US’ complicity in what has happened since (over the past 30 years), leaves open the space for Russia and China to come in and create an order that may not be as amenable to US and Israeli concerns.
Look at what is happening in Saudi. Emotions are high. People would not have dared think to talk this way to rulers before. The whole Middle East / international order is in flux. They have been put in a bind and are facing a crisis of legitimacy.
The Egyptian authorities are even squashing small protests in support of Gaza for fear that larger ones may form and the government be overthrown the way it was in 2011.
The same fear is there for the Jordanian king and his government.
Having just gone through Ramadan, how can the people of the Ummah and especially the Arab world not but remember the verses of Surah An-Nisa. These leaders need not resort to armed action, but if they don’t use their other leverages with Israel and or its western backers, the Arab people will become more restless and a small incident would spark another “Arab Spring”. The former Tunisian president (a leftist) said, the “Arab Volcanoes” will erupt.
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The US squandered the unipolar moment of the 90s and Oslo accords to make a Palestinian state, with all the safeguards they and the Israelis wanted, that could have solidified the global order the US had hoped to create in the Middle East.
Now the US’ complicity in what has happened since (over the past 30 years), leaves open the space for Russia and China to come in and create an order that may not be as amenable to US and Israeli concerns.
Look at what is happening in Saudi. Emotions are high. People would not have dared think to talk this way to rulers before. The whole Middle East / international order is in flux. They have been put in a bind and are facing a crisis of legitimacy.
The Egyptian authorities are even squashing small protests in support of Gaza for fear that larger ones may form and the government be overthrown the way it was in 2011.
The same fear is there for the Jordanian king and his government.
Having just gone through Ramadan, how can the people of the Ummah and especially the Arab world not but remember the verses of Surah An-Nisa. These leaders need not resort to armed action, but if they don’t use their other leverages with Israel and or its western backers, the Arab people will become more restless and a small incident would spark another “Arab Spring”. The former Tunisian president (a leftist) said, the “Arab Volcanoes” will erupt.
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Abdullah as of this moment hold on power is fine his troops are currently loyal to him he praises of peace etc but if a million Jordanians of Palestinian descent were to come to the palace you would see thousands of dead on the street. Him even allowing protests to a certain degree is amazing but he knows if they keep up the chant will soon enough be down with Jordan.weird these countries support Palestinians but won’t allow protests because if they did they would soon enough start protesting their own governments to have their people show solidarity with Palestine risks their hold on their countries. I think people forget how massive the Arab spring was and how it showed vasts part of their society are disenfranchised with their “leaders” I don’t talk about overthrowing these leaders because without a plan of action for tomorrow there’s only chaos and I won’t list the countries because honestly people sometimes get sensitive for no reason
FuturePAF
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True, the people want real tangible political action on Palestine, not so much to change their government. But this is where the risk of snowballing happens when even action on Palestine isn’t seen to be happening.
clutch
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I'm surprised there are no such protests in Universities in Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, Pakistan, Turkey, Egypt, Etc etc . I wonder why?
I'm surprised there are no such protests in Universities in Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, Pakistan, Turkey, Egypt, Etc etc . I wonder why?
Shadihassan28
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No I think they wish to get rid of those governments today but the reality is gradual change is better than a coup or an uprising than isn’t popular with all parts of the society military as well but a military that won’t replace a government that falls but safeguards a new leadership we have seen the military cheered as heroes than put themselves in power again we know which countries those are we don’t need to say it
clutch
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This is exactly why Muslim nations are by and large failed nations run by despots
clutch
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Does Qatar still have diplomatic relations with Israel? Is Qatar still host bases that oppress the Muslims and are pro-zionist?
Speeches without action are like used toilet paper. Useless.
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