Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

[Antonius123]

Everything

I myself see all races are equal.

 

[Indos]

Like I said: it is not about white/black heart, but about narratives that you embrace.

You can't consider the Israel supporter is minority because only minority having black hearth.

Those who supports Israel embrace narratives from Israel
Those who support Hamas embrace narratives from Hamas.

Which narratives prevail depend on power of propaganda and ideology that majority embrace.

You support Hamas/Palestine is because you embrace Hamas/Palestine narratives, because their narratives prevail in Indonesia and other moslem countries and countries being hostile towards US/west.

Once again you bring Hamas to defense your narrative. Once again dude, I dont support Hamas and you cannot justify Israel genocide with Hamas attack.

Go launched attack on Hamas, not Palestinian women, kids, babies, and civilian homes.

 

[Antonius123]

Just Google it dummy, look at the U.N votes, it's pretty much the U.S and a handful of countries standing in the way now

Multiple polls all say the same thing, Israeli hasbra has collapsed and they are now panicking, trying to block tik Tok and trying to control other platforms

It's all failing, we won't be able to change these nations in 6 months

But within the next decade or two DEFINITELY, I can guarantee you Israel will become a pariah with the educated student body across the world vehemently pro Palestine

Israel is hoping the U.S will be endlessly able to block the claims of war crimes and genocide, but even the U.S is struggling

As far I know saying other pdf member "dummy" is not allowed and violating rule, please correct me if I am wrong? @Musings

Majority of UN votes doesn't support Hamas but support Peace, this is often misinterpreted by Hamas supporters.

 

[Antonius123]

Once again you bring Hamas to defense your narrative. Once again dude, I dont support Hamas and you cannot justify Israel genocide with Hamas attack.

Go launched attack on Hamas, not Palestinian women, kids, babies, and civilian homes.

Nobody support genocide.

By saying Israel is doing genocide, it already signify that you are embracing Hamas narratives, regardless you admit or not admit it, aware or not aware.

That "Israel is doing genocide" is still an "accusation" or even an "allegation" rather than solid fact.
Ref:

Palestinian genocide allegations - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

And another question is: why you only accuse Israel is doing genocide but not accuse Russia over ukraines, or British over German people in Nurenberg in the past, etc for doing the same?

 

[Indos]

Exactly... No protest in any so-called Muslim nations... Shows how pathetic and impotent our societies are. Just lusting for $$$

Muslim nations have done huge demonstration before, but they know is useless, so they better concentrate their times to build Muslim nations power in any field while you are here just cursing other Muslims while living in Western nation

 

[Khansaheeb]

Like I said: it is not about white/black heart, but about narratives that you embrace.

You can't consider the Israel supporter is minority because only minority having black hearth.

Those who supports Israel embrace narratives from Israel
Those who support Hamas embrace narratives from Hamas.

Which narratives prevail depend on power of propaganda and ideology that majority embrace.

You support Hamas/Palestine is because you embrace Hamas/Palestine narratives, because their narratives prevail in Indonesia and other moslem countries and countries being hostile towards US/west.

It's all about perceptions, even perceptions fall apart. The cries of Palestinians will eventually be heard in deaf ears that is when the world will change.

 

[The SC]

My brother atleast we can appreciate that they allowed them to protest even if it was for few hours....
Any protest in Islamic Republic of Pakistan the Fort of Islam, Iqbal's dream?
Any protest in the Sheikh ul Islam babul Islam matwal ey harmeen e sharfeen the birth place of Islam called Saudi Arabia?
Any protest? UAE, Saudi, Bahrain?
None zero nada... It's like Saudi and UAE do consider Palestinians as human animals...
35 AMERICAN UNIVERSITIES WHERE American's are protesting...

You need to distinguish between the American students protesting against their own government policies concerning Palestine and the Arab states where the governments themselves lead the protest against these same US policies through legal channels like the UN, Putting pressure all over the world for a two state solution and holding important meetings with most leaders of the world's nations discussing and trying to find solutions to Gaza and ultimately the establishment of the independent state of Palestine..

 

[Antonius123]

It's all about perceptions, even perceptions fall apart.

Exactly, it is all about perception. And perceptions is built on the ground of narratives and ideology.

The cries of Palestinians will eventually be heard in deaf ears that is when the world will change.

Sure.

But they shouldn't support attack like 7th Oct 2023, coz it will justify Israel to decimate the group/regime they are supporting to the certain extend.

 

[Indos]

Nobody support genocide.

By saying Israel is doing genocide, it already signify that you are embracing Hamas narratives, regardless you admit or not admit it.

That "Israel is doing genocide" is still an "accusation" rather than solid fact.
Ref:

Palestinian genocide allegations - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

And another question is: why you only accuse Israel is doing genocide but not accuse Russia, British in the past, etc for doing the same?

I oppose any killing on civilians in any kind of war. My moral compass is clear while you dont

 

[Musings]

Nobody support genocide.

By saying Israel is doing genocide, it already signify that you are embracing Hamas narratives, regardless you admit or not admit it, aware or not aware.

That "Israel is doing genocide" is still an "accusation" rather than solid fact.
Ref:

Palestinian genocide allegations - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

And another question is: why you only accuse Israel is doing genocide but not accuse Russia over ukraines, or British over German people in Nurenberg in the past, etc for doing the same?

Stop attempting to hide genocide and committing war crimes by bringing up or pointing Hamas.
The behaviour and acts of Israel are worse that those crimes committed by Hitler. Finding a mass grave next to a hospital won’t go without it being logged as the worst kind of war crime in living history. Your attempt to focus on Hamas and blaming them is pathetic.

 

[Indos]

Exactly, it is all about perception. And perceptions is built on the ground of narratives and ideology.



Sure.

But they shouldn't support attack like 7th Oct 2023, coz it will justify Israel to decimate the group/regime they are supporting to the certain extend.

No it is not about perception. It is clear Israel bombarded Gazan city. It is a war again civilian.

 

[Antonius123]

I oppose any killing on civilians in any kind of war.

Me too; why do you think I dont? do you think those who support Israel support killing civilian in any kind of war?

If so, then you have bought Hamas narratives too much.

My moral compass is clear while you dont

If so, then you should oppose any kind of attack from intifada, jihadis, all war initiated by Arab since 1948 against Israel too, because the victims is also including civilian.

 

[Antonius123]

No it is not about perception. It is clear Israel bombarded Gazan city. It is a war again civilian.

Because you only buy Hamas narratives and ignore Israel narratives.

Hamas narratives:

1. Israel bombarded Gazan city without care on civilian.​

2. Israel intend to exterminate Gazan civilian.​

Israel narratives:

1. IDF has done maximum to avoid civilian tolls by giving them warning to leave before attack​

2. It is Hamas will and intention to use civilian as human shield to discredit Israel, so the huge toll on Gazan civilian is unavoidable.​

 

[Indos]

Me too; why do you think I dont? do you think those who support Israel support killing civilian in any kind of war?

If so, then you have bought Hamas narratives too much.




If so, then you should oppose any kind of attack from intifada, jihadis, etc against Israel too, because the victims is also including civilian.

Ofcourse I dont support any military attack against Israeli civilians even when it is conducted by Muslims. I have shown disagreement on Hamas launching rocket undiscriminately to Israel cities long before this 7 October attack happen. You can check on old PDF thread that is now emerging again some how...

My moral compas is clear based on my religion that opposes such act while you dont, or your moral compas based on old testament that asked Israelis to kills Mamalek women, kids, infants based on Christian Holly book ?

War of conduct by Muslim has been recorded clearly during prophet Muhammad period

 

[clutch]

You support Hamas/Palestine is because you embrace Hamas/Palestine narratives, because their narratives prevail in Indonesia and other moslem countries due to sharing the same ideology, and countries being hostile towards US/west

Shocking you like amongst Muslims but side with the murderers of Muslims. Traitor.