Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

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r3alist said:
The global South already rejected the western narrative on Ukraine, now I think they won't even listen to the west.
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The people might not, but governments behold to the west are structured into a system that requires them to listen or pay the consequences.

Even India, whose foreign minister went to Russia, is hear an earful from the U.S.

If any nation’s people want their nations to be truly independent, they will have to be able to bear the consequences of not fully aligning with the “international rules based order”. India catches a break because it’s aligned with the US against China to some extent, but even then there are put in their place by the US.
 
So genocidal Netanyahu plans to free hostages and clear Hamas so far has been an epic failure. It brings me to believe this was the public plan but in private they have wanted to ethnically cleanse Palestinians from Gaza.

I watched a video recently where an Israeli commentator stated if you go with a one state now the jews would be 47% minority. By 2048 there will be around 20m people living in Palestine and Israel with majority being arab 10m+

He was saying where will all these people live. This is a major concern for these genocidal maniacs they know that one state for them won't work a 2 state means they have to give land but they were born on thefting land. Their solution is to ethnically cleanse gaza move as many people away to other countries make gaza not livable. With the west bank we see more land theft and making Palestinian lives there a misery.
 
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FuturePAF said:
Electronic surveillance ship; it’s an old frigate in the 1000-1500 ton range. Not effective as a warship, but could defend itself enough to be an intelligence ship.
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"Defend itself"??
On the contrary, sounds like a bait to start a regional war. If this news is true then makes no sense. Anyone???
 
FuturePAF said:
The people might not, but governments behold to the west are structured into a system that requires them to listen or pay the consequences.

Even India, whose foreign minister went to Russia, is hear an earful from the U.S.

If any nation’s people want their nations to be truly independent, they will have to be able to bear the consequences of not fully aligning with the “international rules based order”. India catches a break because it’s aligned with the US against China to some extent, but even then there are put in their place by the US.
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Sure, but the global South is always testing and pushing the limits, and it's happened at the government level, not to derail but Pak is probably counter narrative to the global South.

India has held its line.
 
lightning f57 said:
So genocidal Netanyahu plans to free hostages and clear Hamas so far has been an epic failure. It brings me to believe this was the public plan but in private they have wanted to ethnically cleanse Palestinians from Gaza.

I watched a video recently where an Israeli commentator stated if you go with a one state now the jews would be 47% minority. By 2048 there will be around 20m people living in Palestine and Israel with majority being arab 10m+

He was saying where will all these people live. This is a major concern for these genocidal maniacs they know that one state for them won't work a 2 state means they have to give land but they were born on thefting land. Their solution is to ethnically cleanse gaza move as many people away to other countries make gaza not livable. With the west bank we see more land theft and making Palestinian lives there a misery.
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Many Palestinian Refugees in Jordan and Lebanon would probably want to go back if it were a one state solution. Many Israelis would probably not want to live in such a state, because over time they have 1. Come to loathe the Palestinians and come to fear them, similar to how many right wing Americans fear Blacks and Latinos.


There are over 3.2 million Palestinians in Jordan alone. Nearly 4.6 million of you count Lebanon, Syria and Egypt with Jordan. These being the three countries where Palestinians probably live like Refugees, to one extent or another, and would be motivated to go back.

Palestinian diaspora - Wikipedia

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truthseer said:
@RescueRanger @Musings Imagine if someone said Muslims and Europe or America instead of Middle East.
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Ther difference is that we came to Europe and America with the consent of the democratic government's of these countries.

These Jewish Zionist imposed themselves in Palestine without the consent of the locals.
 
r3alist said:
Sure, but the global South is always testing and pushing the limits, and it's happened at the government level, not to derail but Pak is probably counter narrative to the global South.

India has held its line.
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True, it’s done in inches here and there. Pakistan is really the counter narrative (hopefully not for long). Its myopic mindset, for most of it’s existence, has seen it cede ground where it ought not have had to retain its stability.
 
UKBengali said:
Ther difference is that we came to Europe and America with the consent of the democratic government's of these countries.

These Jewish Zionist imposed themselves in Palestine without the consent of the locals.
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Right wing would argue without the consent of locals too.

It is a dumb point anyway, Jews have lived in Middle East for centuries or are you forgetting your own history with Khyber, etc?
 
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