Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

[Jaeger]

Let's flip it around:

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If it were other way around, I would argue the same.

One of the most significant rules of war is, you do use your own civillians as human shields.

And if you do, you should not cry about collateral damage.

 

[Jaeger]

All.of Gaza is a refugee camp, where do you want to hold them? On a mountain top prison or something

That is a non sensical argument not based on facts.
Regardless I will further argument, take it to its logical conclusion.

If you claim, entire Gaza is a refugees camp and terrorists are allowed to keep hostages anywhere in Gaza.

By that logic entire Gaza is a terrorist camp too. And Israeli should be allowed to treat it as such?

 

[Falcon29]

If it were other way around, I would argue the same.

No you wouldn't. You'd say Palestinians are terrorists.

One of the most significant rules of war is, you do use your own civillians as human shields.

Sorry, but that defense doesn't work. It's why the ICJ and UN implicated Israel for war crimes. And why nations submitted a case for genocide against Israel. You can't deliberately target civilians and place blame on others.

If you're deliberately bombarding entire residential blocks, you're deliberately trying to maximize civilian casualties. There's no human shields of any kind.

Israel uses human shields quite literally, however.

And if you do, you should not cry about collateral damage.

Look Hindu guy. Go back to Indian forum. Because we respect you too much. And I'm going to get you banned if you can't stop behaving like a dirty person full of hate and justifications for murder.

 

[Kyussis]

Just received a confirmation my Quran is in the mail.

A victim of good old fashioned white ex piggy beating me yesterday. Bonded out this morning.

My index finger accidentally touched his chest while he was punching me in the face.

Filled out an affidavit to have the ex piggy charged. Not holding my breath.

This is the kind of white supremacy that gets all of us, even a white older gentleman like me.

Ex piggy is respected at the local church. I am now more serious in taking up Islam.

Asked an elder if I could join in on tomorrow's protest for Palestine. He told me not to, telling me someone will likely shoot me.

America the free, hu-rah! s/

I'm sorry for what you had to go through. I hope you make a quick recovery!!!

 

[Falcon29]

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[Jaeger]

No you wouldn't. You'd say Palestinians are terrorists.

Sorry, but that defense doesn't work. It's why the ICJ and UN implicated Israel for war crimes. And why nations submitted a case for genocide against Israel. You can't deliberately target civilians and place blame on others.

If you're deliberately bombarding entire residential blocks, you're deliberately trying to maximize civilian casualties. There's no human shields of any kind.

Israel uses human shields quite literally, however.

Look Hindu guy. Go back to Indian forum. Because we respect you too much. And I'm going to get you banned if you can't stop behaving like a dirty person full of hate and justifications for murder.

Try to counter my argument with logic, if you can. Nonsensesical threats have no effect on me.

Neither am I with Israel(because of their atrocities), nor am I with Palestinians (as they have brought this war up on themselves).

However I will keep pointing out the "obvious" to either side.

 

[Falcon29]

Try to counter my argument with logic, if you can. Nonsensesical threats have no effect on me.

Neither am I with Israel(because of their atrocities), nor am I with Palestinians (as they have brought this war up on themselves).

However I will keep pointing out the "obvious" to either side.

Clearly you're Hindu and I'm Muslim Arab so I'm not logical but you are. Ha ha ha. Despite you glossing over fact UN, ICJ, and world nations, did not buy your 'logic' and it your 'logic' which is same 'logic' employed for Israel's defense didn't cut it and Israel was implicated for committing war crimes.

 

[Foinikas]

Really?

These disagree with your claim that Hamas are thee defender of Palestine:

Elderly Gazan woman accuses Hamas of stealing aid in rare criticism​

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Hamas using Palestinians as 'human shields' against IDF​

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Gazans Speaking Out Against Hamas​

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Some people who think Hamas are "freedom fighters" and the "resistance of the Palestinian people",should stop with their delusions. Hamas are a selfish,dictatorship-loving,radical,hardcore islamist group. They don't care about the Palestinian people. The more dead,the more "martyrs" they will have to portray for their cause. You see some losing 3-4 kids and they use that as propaganda. They want to free Palestine their own way and if they have to take the entire Gaza with them,they will do it.

Anyone who had a different opinion or didn't like Hamas,was swiftly dealt with even before the war.

Take a look at Sinwar,you'll see an evil person. Read about his life,you'll see the guy is fanatic.

Check the long list of Hamas attacks from the '80s to the late 2000s. Attacks against buses,cafes,restaurants,discos, markets,train stations. I mean...how evil and dishonorable can someone be to attack a school bus? A SCHOOL BUS?

You've got people here going like "OOOH evil Jews oooh Zionists you kill children,you bomb the children,look at those white settler occupiers how they kill Palestinian children!" and at the same time,if you tell them "back in the 80s and 2000s Hamas killed children,teenagers,babies and random people",they will go like "so what,they are settlers,they are not people,they are occupiers,they are not human,they are...." etc. etc.

 

[Unknowntruth]

Try to counter my argument with logic, if you can. Nonsensesical threats have no effect on me.

Neither am I with Israel(because of their atrocities), nor am I with Palestinians (as they have brought this war up on themselves).

However I will keep pointing out the "obvious" to either side.

The Palestinians did not bring it “on themselves”. Palestinians did not ask to be colonized, their homes demolished, villages destroyed, killed with impunity, oppressed, treated as animals, restricting of movement, destruction of their economy, etc

With occupation and oppression comes resistance against this illegal colonizer entity.

 

[hussain0216]

That is a non sensical argument not based on facts.
Regardless I will further argument, take it to its logical conclusion.

If you claim, entire Gaza is a refugees camp and terrorists are allowed to keep hostages anywhere in Gaza.

By that logic entire Gaza is a terrorist camp too. And Israeli should be allowed to treat it as such?

All occupied people have the right to resistance, they have the right to fight their occupier

Fighting the occupier can never be declared as terrorism
Israel is a monstrous state, a state enforcing occupation and apartheid, it's war crimes eclipse anything the Palestinians can do to defend themselves

Resistance is costly, you don't give up because your occupier is cruel and evil

 

[Falcon29]

Some people who think Hamas are "freedom fighters" and the "resistance of the Palestinian people",should stop with their delusions. Hamas are a selfish,dictatorship-loving,radical,hardcore islamist group. They don't care about the Palestinian people. The more dead,the more "martyrs" they will have to portray for their cause. You see some losing 3-4 kids and they use that as propaganda. They want to free Palestine their own way and if they have to take the entire Gaza with them,they will do it.

Anyone who had a different opinion or didn't like Hamas,was swiftly dealt with even before the war.

Take a look at Sinwar,you'll see an evil person. Read about his life,you'll see the guy is fanatic.

Check the long list of Hamas attacks from the '80s to the late 2000s. Attacks against buses,cafes,restaurants,discos, markets,train stations. I mean...how evil and dishonorable can someone be to attack a school bus? A SCHOOL BUS?

You've got people here going like "OOOH evil Jews oooh Zionists you kill children,you bomb the children,look at those white settler occupiers how they kill Palestinian children!" and at the same time,if you tell them "back in the 80s and 2000s Hamas killed children,teenagers,babies and random people",they will go like "so what,they are settlers,they are not people,they are occupiers,they are not human,they are...." etc. etc.


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Sorry but you deserve this

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[Kyussis]

Israel was included alongside ISIS on the United Nations blacklist because it committed massacres against children and women in the Gaza Strip, and Netanyahu responds. The United Nations joined Hamas.

Israel is becoming increasingly isolated in the West.

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Israel is the original ISIS. A religious extremist state born out of Terrorism!!!

 

[hussain0216]

Some people who think Hamas are "freedom fighters" and the "resistance of the Palestinian people",should stop with their delusions. Hamas are a selfish,dictatorship-loving,radical,hardcore islamist group. They don't care about the Palestinian people. The more dead,the more "martyrs" they will have to portray for their cause. You see some losing 3-4 kids and they use that as propaganda. They want to free Palestine their own way and if they have to take the entire Gaza with them,they will do it.

Anyone who had a different opinion or didn't like Hamas,was swiftly dealt with even before the war.

Take a look at Sinwar,you'll see an evil person. Read about his life,you'll see the guy is fanatic.

Check the long list of Hamas attacks from the '80s to the late 2000s. Attacks against buses,cafes,restaurants,discos, markets,train stations. I mean...how evil and dishonorable can someone be to attack a school bus? A SCHOOL BUS?

You've got people here going like "OOOH evil Jews oooh Zionists you kill children,you bomb the children,look at those white settler occupiers how they kill Palestinian children!" and at the same time,if you tell them "back in the 80s and 2000s Hamas killed children,teenagers,babies and random people",they will go like "so what,they are settlers,they are not people,they are occupiers,they are not human,they are...." etc. etc.


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They are freedom fighters, they are resisting a occupation

A occupier cannot claim to have civilians in a land they have taken from .force from the people they subjugate

Why bring these people to the middle east where they are hated

 

[Get Ya Wig Split]

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Great news today!

The name of the joint IDF, Shin Bet, and police operation to rescue the four hostages from the Gaza Strip is "Seeds of Summer."

At 11:00 a.m. the order was given to the Yamam and Shin Bet officers to raid two multi-story buildings in central Gaza's Nuseirat, where Hamas was holding hostages Noa Argamani, Almog Meir Jan, Andrey Kozlov, and Shlomi Ziv.

The buildings were about 200 meters apart, and the decision to go for both simultaneously, and not just one of the sites, was due to the possibility that Hamas may murder the hostages after identifying the rescue operation.

Argamani was held by Hamas guards alone in the home of a Palestinian family, while the other three hostages were held at a separate home. According to the IDF, Hamas pays such families to hold the hostages in their homes.

At the home where Meir Jan, Kozlov, and Ziv were held, a major gun battle erupted, during which Yamam officer Chief Inspector Arnon Zamora, the commander of the rescue team at the second building, was critically wounded by Hamas fire.

As the three hostages and Zamora were being extracted, their vehicle came under fire, leading it to get stuck. Other forces quickly reached the scene to rescue them, bringing them to a makeshift helipad in Gaza.

There was a large amount of gunfire and RPG fire on the rescue forces amid the operation, leading the ground troops and the Air Force to carry out major strikes in the area to protect themselves and the rescued hostages. The IDF acknowledges that it killed many Palestinian civilians amid the fighting, although it places the blame on Hamas for holding hostages in a civilian environment.

Hamas operatives also fired anti-aircraft missiles at Israeli helicopters over the area amid the operation, without success.

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Amazing work by IDF. I hope the IDF succeeds in rescuing the remaining hostages and that we can finally bring this to a close.

 

[Jaeger]

All occupied people have the right to resistance, they have the right to fight their occupier

Fighting the occupier can never be declared as terrorism
Israel is a monstrous state, a state enforcing occupation and apartheid, it's war crimes eclipse anything the Palestinians can do to defend themselves

Resistance is costly, you don't give up because your occupier is cruel and evil

Resistance is righteous.

Resistance does not abduct unarmed civillians as hostages, to be used as bargain chips. That is what terrorists do.