Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

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This looks like “I support the right of the house owner to be allowed to keep and live in a part of his house and share it with the house invader”.

That is NOT what I said, so please do not confuse what you want to say the same as what I said, which is VERY CLEAR:

Of course I fully support the right of the Palestinians to live in safety, prosperity and dignity in their own sovereign state at peace with all of their neighbors in an enduring manner, just the same as any other nation.
 
I can only wish you good luck in what you seek here. It is your right to proceed as you wish, and I respect that right.

Freedom is everything,, if the Jews don't leave the middle east then the Palestinians will never have freedom

Any kum ba ya crap about coexisting and friendship or two state solution is just that CRAP

because you are not living alongside middle Eastern Jews,, you are stuck beside white colonial Zionists enforcing occupation and apartheid,

Unless they go, the Palestinians will forever suffer

And as we have agreed, actions have consequences,
So what consequences should we give to the Jews for their monstrous massacre in Gaza?

The answer is the Jews will pay, the Muslim world is massive, it's strength will return and we need to ensure in the meantime that any crap about friendship or coexistence is destroyed

You cannot have coexistence after what has happened
 
And as we have agreed, actions have consequences,
So what consequences should we give to the Jews for their monstrous massacre in Gaza?

Of course, actions have consequences for both sides, we agree.

Whatever you feel you can give as consequences to Israel, please go right ahead. I fully respect your right to do as you wish.

Just be prepared for the opposing side to do the same. That is all.
 

Inside Hamas' last stronghold: 'More tunnels here than I've seen anywhere else in Gaza'

Reporter's Notebook: IDF commander says there are more tunnels in Gaza's southernmost city than anywhere else in the strip; some lead in to Egypt and are used by Hamas to smuggle in weapons and explosives​

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This was the first time Israeli journalists have been inside Rafah since 2005. We were allowed to join the IDF forces fighting in Gaza's southernmost city for the past 42 days and counting.
The troops marked the days they had left in the warzone on one of the walls in the apartment they have been using as their base, although when they would be released from reserve duty or how quickly they may be called back, is not entirely clear.

Lt. Col. Yair Zuckerman, their commander, did not need the wall to know how long he has been fighting. He left his home in the Golan Heights on October 7 and has been at war ever since. He last saw his family when they came to visit him at a base on the Gaza border with Israel last weekend.
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Yossi Yehoshua with Maj. Gen. Yair Zuckerman in Rafah
(Photo: IDF)
Zuckerman was assigned to bring us journalists into the city. The IDF understands the need to enlist public support for the fight and wanted to show the achievements of the troops in order to help deal with the criticism of the war. We were there to see what had been done, what still needed to be done and also what can wait until after a deal is made to return the 120 hostages, both living and dead, still held by Hamas.
We entered the Strip on a troop carrier, through the Kerem Shalom border crossing. It is a new and advanced vehicle that can move quickly. It has air conditioning, which makes it popular among the troops in the scorching Rafah heat.
Their motivation is high and their recognition of the importance of their mission is clear: the return of all the hostages and the elimination of Hamas.

The fighting continues but at low intensity, as is evident by the limited destruction in Rafah. Zuxkerman says, despite this, the military is not making life easy for the Hamas terrorists. "Yes, we are using less firepower but I have aerial support whenever I need it and my officers fire their shells at any target I tell them to," he says.
The offensive was slow from the start because of the need to avoid civilian casualties, amid U.S. pressure. Infantry and commando units rotate sending troops out of the Strip for a rest and the operations along the border with Egypt are carried out with special care.
The pace is also determined by the difficulty posed by the Hamas tunnels, the scope of which surprised the IDF. "There are more tunnels here than I've seen anywhere else in the Strip," Zuckerman says. "It would be wrong not to deal with them now when we are here. Hamas is fighting above and below ground with cameras they had installed inside buildings." The troops recently found an explosive device hidden inside a shoe closet, which was hard to find.

 פירים ומעברים בין הקירות שמחבלי חמאס עשו וכוחות צהל איתרו ברפיח שברצועת עזה

A tunnel shaft uncovered in Rafah
(Photo: IDF)
Hamas booby-trapped buildings ahead of the offensive, and that is another threat to the troops. This was a lesson the terror group learned as it studied the IDF well. But the military says only two of the Rafah battalions remain and they too would be dismantled in the coming weeks. Many of the terrorists who were in Rafah had fled to Khan Younis or the humanitarian safe zones on the coast.
The Philadelphi Corridor, located along the Egyptian border, was a critical asset for Hamas and the troops were there to cut off the terrorists' lifeline in the smuggling underground tunnels connecting the Strip to Egypt.
"You cannot make AK-47s and military-grade TNT in Gaza, so clearly they were smuggled in through the tunnels, " Zuckerman says. Thus far, 22 tunnel shafts have been found and the IDF is trying to learn how far they reach on the Egyptian side of the border. The senior military command believes Israel must hold on to its control of Philadelphi, not only to prevent arms from being smuggled in but also as leverage to use against Hamas.

יוסי יהושוע בציר פילדלפי ברפיח, רצועת עזה

IDF troops at the Philadelphi Corridor along the Gaza-Egypt border
(Photo: IDF)
For now, Zuckerman must deal with scorching heat and the mental challenges to his troops. He brought in a mental health officer to be on hand for the men, to assist them in the field and to prevent later problems of PTSD.
After our chat, Zuckerman leads us back to the APC. He would never have thought that he would accompany a group of journalists on the way to the Gaza shore, without heavy armor protecting him from all sides. But as we enjoy the afternoon breeze, we watch the naval vessels in the sea in front of us while the cannon fire continues at a distance.
 
I know this may sound ruthless, but in the end I think this is a problem that Muslims have.
In Syria and Libya, Muslims around the world went on a rampage, riding madly to destroy those countries.
On the other hand, no matter how brutally Israel and the U.S. kill Muslims, they ignore it and desperately spread the bad news about Iran.
The Gulf states, in the heat of their war of aggression against Yemen, are Israel's de facto allies, using their air power to protect Israel tightly.
They take up arms with great glee when killing their fellow Muslims, but can never muster the courage to stand up to America or Israel.
It is regrettable that only two million people in Gaza bear the burden of the sins of all Muslims in the world.
Of course, the Palestinian people are no saints either, and in 2011 Hamas teamed up with militants to attack Syria, a longtime Palestinian ally.
Moreover, Hamas had no hesitation in cooperating with extremists aligned with Israel.
 
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Of course, actions have consequences for both sides, we agree.

Whatever you feel you can give as consequences to Israel, please go right ahead. I fully respect your right to do as you wish.

Just be prepared for the opposing side to do the same. That is all.

The opposing side however is a occupier

And the two sides cannot be equated and the consequences for occupation, apartheid and brutality is a historic Injustice that must be corrected
 
The opposing side however is a occupier

And the two sides cannot be equated and the consequences for occupation, apartheid and brutality is a historic Injustice that must be corrected

As I said, please go right ahead since I support your right to form your views however you wish, and to act upon them however able. Of course, the other side will do the same. That is just the way it goes in real life.
 
As I said, please go right ahead since I support your right to form your views however you wish, and to act upon them however able. Of course, the other side will do the same. That is just the way it goes in real life.

But as we agreed the other side are colonial occupiers it's a moral objective to support a occupied population against their oppressors

None of us are free until Palestine is free
 
But as we agreed the other side are colonial occupiers it's a moral objective to support a occupied population against their oppressors

None of us are free until Palestine is free

As I said, I support your right to form your views - not mine - however you wish, and to act upon them however you are able. Of course, the other side will do the same. And so will I.
 
That is NOT what I said, so please do not confuse what you want to say the same as what I said, which is VERY CLEAR:

Of course I fully support the right of the Palestinians to live in safety, prosperity and dignity in their own sovereign state at peace with all of their neighbors in an enduring manner, just the same as any other nation.


That is my interpretation of your post as I clearly stated.

Now can you answer the question with a simple yes or no. It is a binary choice here and so no idea why you wrote a whole paragraph to answer.
 
As I said, I support your right to form your views - not mine - however you wish, and to act upon them however you are able. Of course, the other side will do the same. And so will I.

The other side are occupiers

And your attempting to morally equate the two

So after years, decades even of listening to crap about human rights, and LGBT bullshit, and finger pointing and accusations against multiple countries

The states like the U.S and clowns like you suddenly can't condemn Zionism, colonialism, apartheid, oppression and outright MASSACRE

This is a vital moment for all of us,

Suddenly this conflict wakes us up to the reality of the world,
Zionism is EXTREMISM
What the western countries like the U.S are displaying is just the modern white colonial extremism

And we are told to be secular and accepting


It's why we must support Russia in the war against western hegemony
And why now that we have received this wake up call, why we must act to defend our people, faith and civilization against the hypocrisy being displayed
 
That is my interpretation of your post as I clearly stated.

Now can you answer the question with a simple yes or no. It is a binary choice here and so no idea why you wrote a whole paragraph to answer.

Well, just like you interpreting my post, I answered your question as I interpreted it. Please try this: it miraculously works both ways, equally.
 
It's why we must support Russia in the war against western hegemony
And why now that we have received this wake up call, why we must act to defend our people, faith and civilization against the hypocrisy being displayed

Ummm, I think you want this thread:


AFAIK, this thread is about the Israeli-Gaza Conflict since December 2023.
 
Ummm, I think you want this thread:


AFAIK, this thread is about the Israeli-Gaza Conflict since December 2023.

It's point I'm trying to make, the same bullshitters who for decades banged on about human rights, LGBT crap and pointed fingers, wages wars, killed millions
They themselves have become stuck, trying to bullshit the world about Ukraine whilst supporting genocide in Gaza
 
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