Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present
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Davey Crockett
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That's Roger Waters, song writer, used to be with Pink Floyd.
UKBengali
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I think you are just thinking of resupply but not looking at how much damage and terror even a supply of 200 Iranian modern anti-tank missiles would do without any further supplies.
This would potentially destroy 100 Zionist armoured vehicles and cook 100s of Zionist terrorists inside these vehicles.
In effect the fear of being incinerated by a modern ATGM would raise the stress levels of the terrorists so high that there is a real chance of a mutiny as then the chance of death is elevated from very low to a real possibility.
Think of the possibility of a Yasin hitting and knocking out trophy/weakening the armour and then the ATGM ready to finish off the vehicle and any Zionist terrorists that may want to come to the rescue.
If Hamas had even some few dozen launchers and a few hundreds of missiles on October 7th, then the situation in Gaza would have been radically different.
Davey Crockett
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We all need to understand once Trump is back in office, it will only get worse for the resistance.
A news article from yesterday.
TUESDAY, JULY 2, 2024
US Ambassador to Israel David Friedman speaks during the Kohelet Forum Conference at the Begin Heritage Center, in Jerusalem, on January 8, 2020.
[Snippets]
Former US ambassador to Israel David Friedman says he does not see any chance Donald Trump will withhold military aid to Israel should he win back the presidency, and that his relationship with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu will likely be patched up.
“I think he’ll want to understand better why Israel hasn’t won by November,” Trump’s envoy to Israel tells Channel 12 news. “His view has been to give Israel what it needs to win.”
"The relationship is bigger than two people,” Friedman adds, and Trump is “committed to an unprecedented [sic] strong relationship between Israel and the United States.”
www.timesofisrael.com
A news article from yesterday.
TUESDAY, JULY 2, 2024
Former US envoy Friedman: Trump doesn’t care about Netanyahu’s call to Biden anymore
2 Jul 2024, 5:16 pm
US Ambassador to Israel David Friedman speaks during the Kohelet Forum Conference at the Begin Heritage Center, in Jerusalem, on January 8, 2020.
[Snippets]
Former US ambassador to Israel David Friedman says he does not see any chance Donald Trump will withhold military aid to Israel should he win back the presidency, and that his relationship with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu will likely be patched up.
“I think he’ll want to understand better why Israel hasn’t won by November,” Trump’s envoy to Israel tells Channel 12 news. “His view has been to give Israel what it needs to win.”
"The relationship is bigger than two people,” Friedman adds, and Trump is “committed to an unprecedented [sic] strong relationship between Israel and the United States.”
Former US envoy Friedman: Trump doesn’t care about Netanyahu’s call to Biden anymore
* * *
www.timesofisrael.com
UKBengali
Elite Member
We all need to understand once Trump is back in office, it will only get worse for the resistance.
A news article from yesterday.
TUESDAY, JULY 2, 2024
Former US envoy Friedman: Trump doesn’t care about Netanyahu’s call to Biden anymore
2 Jul 2024, 5:16 pm
US Ambassador to Israel David Friedman speaks during the Kohelet Forum Conference at the Begin Heritage Center, in Jerusalem, on January 8, 2020.
[Snippets]
Former US ambassador to Israel David Friedman says he does not see any chance Donald Trump will withhold military aid to Israel should he win back the presidency, and that his relationship with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu will likely be patched up.
“I think he’ll want to understand better why Israel hasn’t won by November,” Trump’s envoy to Israel tells Channel 12 news. “His view has been to give Israel what it needs to win.”
"The relationship is bigger than two people,” Friedman adds, and Trump is “committed to an unprecedented [sic] strong relationship between Israel and the United States.”
Former US envoy Friedman: Trump doesn’t care about Netanyahu’s call to Biden anymore
* * *
Respectfully disagree.
Biden is giving the entity all it wants anyway and in effect it would be better without the gaslighting to show US stands 100% with the entity, and no longer even pays lip service to rules of war that have been accepted by the rest of the world.
Davey Crockett
Elite Member
Where Trump and Biden stand on Israel and Gaza
June 25, 2024 at 3:55 pm
By
MAGGIE ASTOR
The New York Times
War in Gaza
Trump
After Hamas’ attack, Trump vowed to “fully support” Israel. He was also initially critical of Netanyahu and Israeli intelligence, calling them unprepared — though he quickly backtracked from those remarks and said he stood with Netanyahu, with whom he had been closely allied as president.
In March, he urged Israel to “finish up” the war quickly because it was losing support, but he also expressed his continued support of the country’s invasion and bombardment of Gaza. In an interview with a conservative Israeli news outlet, he said that he “would act very much the same way” and that “you would have to be crazy not to.”
He suggested that Israel had hurt its cause, in terms of international public opinion, by releasing images of the damage in Gaza. “These photos and shots — I mean, moving shots of bombs being dropped into buildings in Gaza, and I said, ‘Oh, that’s a terrible portrait,’” he said. Of releasing such footage, he added, “Go and do what you have to do, but you don’t do that.”
He reiterated that view to Time magazine in April, saying, “I think that Israel has done one thing very badly: public relations.”
Two-state solution
Trump
As president, Trump proposed a peace plan that he called a blueprint for a two-state solution, but Palestinians did not see it that way.
The plan, which was never adopted, strongly favored Israeli priorities. It was developed without substantive Palestinian input and would not have created a fully autonomous Palestinian state. It called for making Jerusalem the unified capital of Israel, relegating the Palestinian capital to the outskirts of the city and letting Israel keep its West Bank settlements and control of the Jordan Valley.
More recently, Trump told Time magazine: “There was a time when I thought two-state could work. Now I think two-state is going to be very, very tough.”
U.S. campus protests
Trump
Trump praised police crackdowns on pro-Palestinian protests, calling the protesters “raging lunatics and Hamas sympathizers” and saying it had been “a beautiful thing to watch” the police break up a student occupation of a building at Columbia University.
“To every college president, I say remove the encampments immediately,” he said in early May. “Vanquish the radicals, and take back our campuses for all of the normal students.”
Antisemitism
Trump
Trump has described criticism of Israel as antisemitism, and his administration took steps to designate campaigns to boycott Israel as such. He has said that if elected again, he would bar immigrants who “want to abolish the state of Israel” from entering the United States.
He issued an executive order in 2019 that effectively defined Judaism as a race or nationality, in addition to a religion, in order to apply protections under Title VI of the Civil Rights Act.
But he has also repeatedly made antisemitic remarks and associated with antisemites. In 2017, he said there were “fine people on both sides” of a white supremacist and neo-Nazi rally in Charlottesville, Virginia.
And he has repeatedly described Jews who voted for Democrats as “disloyal” or self-hating, language that critics say invokes an antisemitic trope about Jews having a “dual loyalty,” with a greater devotion to Israel than to their own countries.
In 2022, he lamented that “our wonderful evangelicals” appreciated his support for Israel more than American Jews did. And in 2023, he shared an image saying that “liberal Jews” had “voted to destroy America & Israel.”
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu
Trump
As president, Trump strongly supported Netanyahu’s government and gave it a number of political gifts, including support for hard-line Israeli policies that previous U.S. administrations had rejected.
But ever since Trump lost the 2020 election, he has been less friendly toward Netanyahu — seemingly for a personal reason: Netanyahu congratulated Biden on his victory. After the Hamas-led attack on Israel, Trump criticized Netanyahu as having been unprepared. He quickly backtracked on those remarks.
www.nytimes.com
June 25, 2024 at 3:55 pm
By
MAGGIE ASTOR
The New York Times
War in Gaza
Trump
After Hamas’ attack, Trump vowed to “fully support” Israel. He was also initially critical of Netanyahu and Israeli intelligence, calling them unprepared — though he quickly backtracked from those remarks and said he stood with Netanyahu, with whom he had been closely allied as president.
In March, he urged Israel to “finish up” the war quickly because it was losing support, but he also expressed his continued support of the country’s invasion and bombardment of Gaza. In an interview with a conservative Israeli news outlet, he said that he “would act very much the same way” and that “you would have to be crazy not to.”
He suggested that Israel had hurt its cause, in terms of international public opinion, by releasing images of the damage in Gaza. “These photos and shots — I mean, moving shots of bombs being dropped into buildings in Gaza, and I said, ‘Oh, that’s a terrible portrait,’” he said. Of releasing such footage, he added, “Go and do what you have to do, but you don’t do that.”
He reiterated that view to Time magazine in April, saying, “I think that Israel has done one thing very badly: public relations.”
Two-state solution
Trump
As president, Trump proposed a peace plan that he called a blueprint for a two-state solution, but Palestinians did not see it that way.
The plan, which was never adopted, strongly favored Israeli priorities. It was developed without substantive Palestinian input and would not have created a fully autonomous Palestinian state. It called for making Jerusalem the unified capital of Israel, relegating the Palestinian capital to the outskirts of the city and letting Israel keep its West Bank settlements and control of the Jordan Valley.
More recently, Trump told Time magazine: “There was a time when I thought two-state could work. Now I think two-state is going to be very, very tough.”
U.S. campus protests
Trump
Trump praised police crackdowns on pro-Palestinian protests, calling the protesters “raging lunatics and Hamas sympathizers” and saying it had been “a beautiful thing to watch” the police break up a student occupation of a building at Columbia University.
“To every college president, I say remove the encampments immediately,” he said in early May. “Vanquish the radicals, and take back our campuses for all of the normal students.”
Antisemitism
Trump
Trump has described criticism of Israel as antisemitism, and his administration took steps to designate campaigns to boycott Israel as such. He has said that if elected again, he would bar immigrants who “want to abolish the state of Israel” from entering the United States.
He issued an executive order in 2019 that effectively defined Judaism as a race or nationality, in addition to a religion, in order to apply protections under Title VI of the Civil Rights Act.
But he has also repeatedly made antisemitic remarks and associated with antisemites. In 2017, he said there were “fine people on both sides” of a white supremacist and neo-Nazi rally in Charlottesville, Virginia.
And he has repeatedly described Jews who voted for Democrats as “disloyal” or self-hating, language that critics say invokes an antisemitic trope about Jews having a “dual loyalty,” with a greater devotion to Israel than to their own countries.
In 2022, he lamented that “our wonderful evangelicals” appreciated his support for Israel more than American Jews did. And in 2023, he shared an image saying that “liberal Jews” had “voted to destroy America & Israel.”
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu
Trump
As president, Trump strongly supported Netanyahu’s government and gave it a number of political gifts, including support for hard-line Israeli policies that previous U.S. administrations had rejected.
But ever since Trump lost the 2020 election, he has been less friendly toward Netanyahu — seemingly for a personal reason: Netanyahu congratulated Biden on his victory. After the Hamas-led attack on Israel, Trump criticized Netanyahu as having been unprepared. He quickly backtracked on those remarks.
Where Joe Biden and Donald Trump Stand on the Issues (Published 2024)
Here’s what President Biden and former President Donald J. Trump have done and want to do on abortion, democracy, the economy, immigration, Israel and Gaza, and Social Security and Medicare.
UKBengali
Elite Member
Absolutely looking forward to Trump coming into power and seeing both it and the entity even more isolated than they already are.
Orange baboon would finish off what is left of the US(fair chance of civil war) and so that would benefit the Palestinians and the world at large as the US is fighting itself and not causing wars across the globe, either directly or indirectly.
Orange baboon would finish off what is left of the US(fair chance of civil war) and so that would benefit the Palestinians and the world at large as the US is fighting itself and not causing wars across the globe, either directly or indirectly.
Solomon2
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A state of panic in the city of Nabatieh following an enemy raid that targeted a cell of Khamenei’s elite soldiers during a secret meeting in Nabatieh
Persian Gulf
INT'L MOD
Source of graphic: Jewish News Syndicate (JNS) is a news agency and wire service that primarily covers Jewish and Israel-related topics and news. JNS is considered to be conservative and hawkish.
Davey Crockett
Elite Member
58% of Gen Z and Millenial voters believe a civil war is likely, which is more than three times the beliefs of the Silent Generation with 19% of those voters seeing a civil war in the future. Gen X voters who see the likelihood of a civil war total at 46% and Baby Boomers are at 34%.
May 21, 2024
UKBengali
Elite Member
It is interesting that the Orange baboon was anti-Zionist before he was seeking election and so that goes to show how he has literally prostrated himself to the Zionists in order to become president.
For what it is worth, my wish is that the US just becomes a normal and decent country peacefully but compared to what we have now, then the preference is for the US to have a civil war. If it is busy fighting itself then it is in no position to cause mischief around the world.
This idea that without the US there would be wars and instability is just wrong. In the ME we would have an end to the fake countries created by the west during WW1 and instead have more organic countries that would soon settle down and become peaceful. Ukraine war would never have happened and in the Far East we would have peace under overall Chinese dominance.
The US is now the primary cause of wars and instability around the war and this genocide on Gaza is all on the US.
VCheng
THINK TANK: CONSULTANT
Of course! We all would hold hands and sing kumbaya every morning under rainbow-filled the skies. Only if.
International geopolitics was exactly the same before USA existed, just as it does now, and will do so in the future long after USA is gone. The players might change, but the game remains exactly the same. Including for this present conflict. Please grow up!
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