Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

[Meengla]

I would take a honest enemy over a dishonest friend/ally, Democrat and its leaders are the dishonest Ally/Friend of Palestinian or Muslims in General but republicans are the honest enemy, they put it out there what they want to and plan to do, let their ugly faces be out in public, and maybe just maybe that will wake up Arab/Muslim Leaders to realize that they are only buying their times for as long as serve them.,

Neither the Democrats nor the Republicans are fooling any Arab or Muslims. However, at least the Democratic 'base' as some pressure points, some inputs which is virtually lacking in the Republican 'base' and on the contrary, the Republican base is extremely pro Israel.
The debate about 'honest enemy' vs 'dishonest friend' is merely academic in nature. Votes do count, as the 'dishonest friend' in the UK which was brought to power via the Labor Party. How did it help Israel? However little influence the bringing to power of Labor brought, that influence is still better than no influence.

The pro Palestinian alliance should use whatever help they can get. The idea is to keep Israel imbalanced: Threats of rockets from multiple directions, killing IDF in Gaza and West Bank and northern Israel, eroding the investor confidence in Israel, sowing dissent in Israel around the hostages issue, street protests in important countries, having the even minor arms embargo such as by the UK just now, following the ICJ/ICC processes.
What other options the resistance has??? Breast beating, wailing like women won't do and neither would negative posts. The important Arab capitals are not going to help. So Use whatever is available, however small it may be.

 

[Meengla]

Israel currently:

Airports shut down- check
Port (Haifa) shut down- check
Northern border military radar and installations shut down - check
National Integrated Air Defense System broken down - check
National ammunition stockpiles depleted - check
National economy broken down - check
National tax revenue broken down- check
Small and Medium biz shut down en masse - check

Remember the Palestinian willpower and probably 20-40% of the resistance's forces did all this to Israel.

If the Gazan resistance can last for some years, they are going to prevail.

 

[Khansaheeb]

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The ones Israel didn't want. Israeli paid UK puppets are complicit in the genocide.

 

[Khansaheeb]

If the Gazan resistance can last for some years, they are going to prevail.

Doubt it , The Jews with their Western backers have had 75 years of gencodie practice, unless the Muslims rise up to the challenge the Israeli empire will expand in the region.

 

[Meengla]

Doubt it , The Jews with their Western backers have had 75 years of gencodie practice, unless the Mulsims rise up to the challenge the Israeli empire will expand in the region.

The odds are heavily stacked against Palestinians. However, I don't think it is a hopeless situation.
I believe Americans want to be out of the Middle East's quagmires and concentrate on China and Russia. The Abrahamic Accords were more than protecting Israel: They were also about new trade connectivity, such as the India-Middle East-Europe Corridor as well as reducing the American headaches in the Middle East. Americans know it is advantage China/Russia to be bogged down in the Middle East. Americans would want to not be bothered with the Middle East but their master Israel is controlling the American political class, to the detriment of American interests.
And a day may come when the American political class could make the decision, on a bipartisan level, to make Israel offer concessions. If both political parties decide that--which at this point seems impossible--then AIPAC can blackmail all it wants to.

 

[Indos]

And Muslims fail to heed the warnings given to us via hadith and prepare for the worst. Do you see why the Muslims are getting punished as hard as they are?

Another hadith states that the Romans will have the majority of the population; that begs the question, what happens to everyone else?

Here we go another defeatist mentality

I dont see Muslim getting punish. What I see is Arab fighting to each other and Muslim figthing to each other that weaken Muslim world.

Even Hamas is selfish and pull out from PLO and do their stupid strategist that is the disaster for Palestinian. Hamas is the one that is loved by Israel hard line and this stupid organization do their worst operation under hard line period of Netanyahu that want to expand Israel territory

 

[Khansaheeb]

Seems like Russia and China are planning something big.

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[Indos]

Here we go another defeatist mentality

I dont see Muslim getting punish. What I see is Arab fighting to each other and Muslim figthing to each other that weaken Muslim world.

Even Hamas is selfish and pull out from PLO and do their stupid strategist that is the disaster for Palestinian. Hamas is the one that is loved by Israel hard line and this stupid organization do their worst operation under hard line period of Netanyahu that want to expand Israel territory

See on my own country history. Why we can wipe out Communist ? Because Soeharto is using Communist stupid action who killed many of Indonesian Army generals in 9 September operation. Stupid for them, but for Communist enemy it is the chance to wipe out Communist completely

The event is used by Soeharto (and anti communist in Army that still has the most powerful in term of military power) and Islamist power in Indonesia to eliminate our communist power completely

Actually Communist want to save Soekarno since Indonesian Generals who are being killed wanted to do coup to Soekarno

So 9 September 1966 in Indonesia is similar with 9 Oct 2023 Hamas operation. Both are dramatic event that are used by their opponent. Both events cause many people being killed.

 

[Khansaheeb]

Here we go another defeatist mentality

I dont see Muslim getting punish. What I see is Arab fighting to each other and Muslim figthing to each other that weaken Muslim world.

Even Hamas is selfish and pull out from PLO and do their stupid strategist that is the disaster for Palestinian. Hamas is the one that is loved by Israel hard line and this stupid organization do their worst operation under hard line period of Netanyahu that want to expand Israel territory

The Arab rulers think like capitalists while their people think like Muslims.

 

[Khansaheeb]

Palestinains still fighting back:-

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[Indos]

The Arab rulers think like capitalists while their people think like Muslims.

See what happened during Mursy ?
People need to be blamed as well.

At least Muslim has to stop killing each other first. Then start to tolerate each other and practice real democracy. We see democratic Muslim nation tends to perform well in term of economy, industry, instituion, and technology since in democracy we dont see the other part as enemy and we are united

 

[Khansaheeb]

Slaughter and genocide continues, when is the world going to say enough and deal with the Israeli Nazis in the holy land? Don't stop sharing, your silence will be a betrayal These kids are not sleeping, can't upload the mp4 video of hundreds of dead children filled up in a hall. May Allah the evil nazi Jews and their genociding supporters.

 

[RescueRanger]

Gaza thread exists- ideally doesn't require new thread - moving posts.

 

[mulj]

Neither the Democrats nor the Republicans are fooling any Arab or Muslims. However, at least the Democratic 'base' as some pressure points, some inputs which is virtually lacking in the Republican 'base' and on the contrary, the Republican base is extremely pro Israel.
The debate about 'honest enemy' vs 'dishonest friend' is merely academic in nature. Votes do count, as the 'dishonest friend' in the UK which was brought to power via the Labor Party. How did it help Israel? However little influence the bringing to power of Labor brought, that influence is still better than no influence.

The pro Palestinian alliance should use whatever help they can get. The idea is to keep Israel imbalanced: Threats of rockets from multiple directions, killing IDF in Gaza and West Bank and northern Israel, eroding the investor confidence in Israel, sowing dissent in Israel around the hostages issue, street protests in important countries, having the even minor arms embargo such as by the UK just now, following the ICJ/ICC processes.
What other options the resistance has??? Breast beating, wailing like women won't do and neither would negative posts. The important Arab capitals are not going to help. So Use whatever is available, however small it may be.

Trump is better option strategically for Palestinians, his election would make such a friction within society that will lead surely to massive civil unrests and frictions and he would be occupied by that, remember BLM how it went.
It is true that he will sign anything that zionists wants but also will give full legitimacy to the resistance and will broad it, by my opinion i will give simple analogies, this good cop bad cop american policy forced upon palestinians and region is more harmful to them then dealing with permanently bad cop which is bad cop also in his own country.

 

[StormOfTruth]

The major operations carried out by the Palestinian resistance groups on Sunday, September 1, are as follows:

Al-Qassam Brigades' operations on Sept 1:

• - Ambushed an Israeli infantry force after it advanced toward a house where resistance fighters were present in the Al-Damj neighborhood of Jenin camp in the occupied West Bank. This followed intense clashes with occupation forces using light weapons.

Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades' operations on Sept 1:

• - Targeted Israeli military personnel and vehicles positioned along the "Netzarim" axis with two 107mm rockets and heavy-caliber mortar shells.
• - Engaged in fierce clashes with Israeli forces near the Cinema Roundabout in central Jenin, occupied West Bank, using machine guns and explosive devices.
• - Engaged in intense confrontations with Israeli forces that had penetrated Kafr Dan, Al-Yamoun, and Al-Sila Al-Harithiya areas of Jenin, occupied West Bank, using machine guns and explosive devices.
• - Clashed fiercely with Israeli forces storming the Mahawer area in central Al-Khalil, occupied West Bank, using machine guns.
• - Targeted a gathering of Israeli soldiers along the "Netzarim" axis with a 107mm rocket.
• - In a joint operation with the Mujahideen Brigades, targeted Israeli soldiers advancing in the Zaytoun neighborhood east of Gaza City with 60mm mortar shells.
• - Engaged in fierce clashes with Israeli forces that had penetrated combat zones in the city of Jenin and its camp, occupied West Bank, using machine guns and explosive devices.

Al-Quds Brigades' operations on Sept 1:

• - Engaged in fierce clashes with Israeli forces on combat fronts in Jenin, occupied West Bank, launching heavy bursts of gunfire at Israeli infantry.
• - Detonated a pre-prepared explosive device against Israeli occupation forces near the Tawalbeh Mosque in Jenin, occupied West Bank, followed by a barrage of gunfire at regime forces across various battlefronts.

Mujahideen Brigades' operations on Sept 1:

• - In a joint operation with the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, targeted gatherings of Israeli forces advancing in the Al-Zaytoun neighborhood southeast of Gaza City with 60mm mortar shells.
• - Targeted Israeli forces along the "Netzarim" axis with a Haseb-111 rocket.

Al-Nasser Salah Al-Din Brigades' Operations on Sept 1:

• - In a joint operation with the Al-Qassam Brigades, targeted an Israeli military bulldozer of the "D9" type with a tandem warhead near Al-Quds Open University in the Tal al-Sultan neighborhood west of Rafah, in the southern Gaza Strip.