Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present
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Meengla
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Defeated Neo Cons would be the best thing in the world. They have gone totally crazy since the Fall of the Soviet Union in early 90s. However, any major war in the Middle East can easily become a World War. It is not a hyperbole.
Israelis have more or less successfully created a 'model' in West Bank and their wish is to replicate that in Gaza; at least they stopped talking about the 'Tent City in Sinai'.
Bolded Part: Yes, that's what happening. Haifa too is now looking like about to lose people. They should not target the Ben Gurion Airport though--let people out.
Muji.Iqbal
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The American government are fvcking jew lovers. They love Jews. lol
Jews are an insignificant minority in the world. lol.
Or when Zionists openly wish for destruction of Muslims and same with Indians on Indian forums
Jews are an insignificant minority in the world. lol.
Or when Zionists openly wish for destruction of Muslims and same with Indians on Indian forums
Hassan Al-Somal
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Immortals
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These are consequences of inaction by Nasrallah (and to an extent Iran) that caused significant blows to its most powerful ally. Nasrallah’s incompetence and tendency for long convoluted speeches ultimately cost him his life as he lost the deterrence than HZ set up since 2006.
Khorasan Black Flags
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Raiden
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Neo Cons basically used America as a vehicle.
When I said a defeated America, I mean an America that no longer has the ability to project its power outside its border. It could be due to :
- Losing a major war against an industrialized country (Pacific War 2.0)
- Internal uprising that divided the country
- Or simply lose the will to fight like in Vietnam and Afghanistan
For each missile interceptor the spend in defense of israel, that's one less interceptor to fight China's missile in Taiwan.
For each time they defended israel, the more credible the likes of China and Russia is to the world.
Each day they are tied to the Middle East, that's another day for INDOPACOM to compete for resources from CENTCOM.
For each dollar they send to foreigners like ukraine and israel, that's a dollar less for their own countrymen, people in the US have noticed that while israelis and ukrainians are given billion of $$, they have just $750 as compensation for Hurricane Hellen.
etc etc.
The end game is the US losing power gradually and then suddenly, just like what the Brits experienced in the early half of the 20th century.
FuturePAF
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This is the way many in the Arab world are going to think, and because it’s coming via the Iranian led effort it’s delegitimizing the Arab governments in the eyes of their publics, potentially leading to an Islamist takeover or shift that way, as in the recent Jordanian elections.
It’s not that Iran will get empowered, but that otherwise local dissents will be legitimized.
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FuturePAF
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The thing is they won’t be able to have collaborators as easily in Gaza as they have in the West Bank. This is also why the Palestinian “Authority” is probably about to collapse as Ramallah as they can’t deliver safety to the Palestinians.
Meengla
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Yes: A blockaded Gaza became more dangerous for Israel because the Gazans ruthlessly took care of the spies in Gaza and kicked out the Quisling regime of the Palestinian Authority. Otherwise, you'd see in Gaza what's happening in Lebanon, West Bank, Syria and even Iran: Internal informers/traitors.
Meengla
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Gilbert Doctrow is boldly claiming that Israel is on a 'self destructive' path with or without the American help! He is also saying that the Democratic Party's support is not quite as strong for Israel as people might think; due to the electoral reasons, Kamala Harris can't do much until November 5.
I have watched only the first 15 minutes of the interview. No time for the rest.
I have watched only the first 15 minutes of the interview. No time for the rest.
UKBengali
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We may be being a little too optmistic here as to what exactly Harris can do when she gets into office if she wins next month.
The only reason that the Zionists(Jewish and Christian) that tightly control US even are allowing her to run is that they know that they can "manage" her.
Worse case scenario they will have her assasinated if she "steps out of line" too much.
Donald Trump may not work to their benefit as he crassly 100% supports the Zionist entity and so alienating a lot of centrist people, and at least with Harris they can still try to hoodwink the gullible that she cares about Palestinians.
Raiden
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80,000 israelis are displaced due to Hezbolla rockets and harrasments in the North
72,500 israelis are displaced near Gaza
for a grand total of 152,500 people no longer be able to live where to use to live
152K might not seems much to you, but to give you an idea how small israel is, their largest city outside of Jerusalem, Tel Aviv is less than 500K and Haifa is a city of only 250K.
The mere threat of Hamas fighters coming out of their tunnels is enough to displace those kibbutz, as the war rages and expands, now the whole of Israel will be prime target from missiles launched form an area which includes at the very least :
1. Lebanon
2. Syria
3. Iraq
4. Northern Yemen
Already Hezbollah has targetted Haifa, as the war rages, we might see missiles raining down on Tel Aviv and Gush Dan metropolitan area. If these settlements are targetted, and they will be very likely targetted, then israelis wil have no safe place other than leave the country 'temporarily'.
Less people = less economic activities = more burden that the US might have to do something about = which increases hostilities inside US domestic policies as to why they have to send so much tax money to foreigners.
We're already seeing growing movements inside the US of Americans openly showing their disapproval of their tax money sent to Ukraine and Israel. Put this long enough this grief will likely end bad for the states.
72,500 israelis are displaced near Gaza
for a grand total of 152,500 people no longer be able to live where to use to live
152K might not seems much to you, but to give you an idea how small israel is, their largest city outside of Jerusalem, Tel Aviv is less than 500K and Haifa is a city of only 250K.
The mere threat of Hamas fighters coming out of their tunnels is enough to displace those kibbutz, as the war rages and expands, now the whole of Israel will be prime target from missiles launched form an area which includes at the very least :
1. Lebanon
2. Syria
3. Iraq
4. Northern Yemen
Already Hezbollah has targetted Haifa, as the war rages, we might see missiles raining down on Tel Aviv and Gush Dan metropolitan area. If these settlements are targetted, and they will be very likely targetted, then israelis wil have no safe place other than leave the country 'temporarily'.
Less people = less economic activities = more burden that the US might have to do something about = which increases hostilities inside US domestic policies as to why they have to send so much tax money to foreigners.
We're already seeing growing movements inside the US of Americans openly showing their disapproval of their tax money sent to Ukraine and Israel. Put this long enough this grief will likely end bad for the states.
Meengla
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I am not too optimistic about Harris. I have formed my opinion based on many factors and over the last several months. I know Harris has to tow the AIPAC line if she were to win the elections--and that she is doing. That she has been almost quiet about the Gaza massacre is to be expected: Not only it is the AIPAC but also that's what a VP does in America.
BUT her background of being a woman, of immigrant background, a 'visible minority', of middle class origin--all point toward a unique combination never seen before in any US President. She is certainly not a Zionist. Would certainly not subscribe to a racial-superiority based world order which the oldies like Biden and Trump do; in fact, she was probably herself target of racial attacks, the scars of which don't go away.
On top of all that, she is intensely hated by the Israelis who intensely love Trump.
So I have connected a lot of dots and have concluded that Americans should vote for Harris if they are in a Swing State. I don't think I will be proven wrong. I have a near certainty that she will be better about this conflict than Biden or Trump or yet another Neo Con white man (or Hillary, for that matter!) could be.
Flotilla
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Specially azaris, they are white like milk.
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