Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

[Unknowntruth]

Is offering bribes to politicians allowed in the US? Isn't the US opposed to the practice of bribing politicians?

You make it sound as if bribing politicians is a normal acceptable practice.

Someone needs to give him his meds.

 

[Strigon]

You are the one crying because I choose to exercise my vote as I see fit.

Kamala is supporting genocide, we already know what we are getting with her.

Making her lose the election for supporting genocide because she thinks the Muslims will support her no matter what is gonna cost her. This is how you hold candidates accountable. This is what needs to happen to all candidates.

capeesh?

Edit:

You are the hopeless one because you just proved no matter what you will take it up the butt and support Kamala no matter what she does.

No capeesh actually. Quite an absurd way of thinking with an entitlement complex.

You refused to acknowledge that genocide has been going on for decades and didn't just start last year.

You are so self absorbed that you think the only people that should matter in the world to US president's are gazans.

You are so delusional that you actually think Jill too is speaking your language until (let's assume this happens in future) she becomes a presidential figure.

It's all about me me me when you have literally nothing to offer.

 

[Developereo]

You are quite full of yourself thinking your vote matters more than any other.

I am saying my vote is just as important as any other vote. Every single voter expects the candidate to address their issues; this is the fundamental basis of democracy. You are the only one putting yourself down and saying you are a second class citizen and your issues should take a back seat.

It's also ironic that you mention democracy 101 yet quick to invalidate other view points. Perhaps something you should look into first.

I am educating you about the fundamental contract behind democracy: I give you my vote so you can represent my interests.

APIC isn't a gang like the cartel, however it goes offer bribes to politicians to tailor policies according to their interstst. Clearly, you need help learning this side of politics too...

AIPAC is only one arm of the Zionist lobby and it has many ways to influence and control politicians. Entire books have been written about it. May I suggest you read The Israel Lobby by Mearsheimer for starters? There are plenty more.

 

[Unknowntruth]

No capeesh actually. Quite an absurd way of thinking with an entitlement complex.

You refused to acknowledge that genocide has been going on for decades and didn't just start last year.

You are so self absorbed that you think the only people that should matter in the world to US president's are gazans.

You are so delusional that you actually think Jill too is speaking your language until (let's assume this happens in future) she becomes a presidential figure.

It's all about me me me when you have literally nothing to offer.

Ruff ruff ruff

Lmao

Please take your meds, no one agrees with you here and it’s perfectly ok to disagree.

 

[Strigon]

Is offering bribes to politicians allowed in the US? Isn't the US opposed to the practice of bribing politicians? You are essentially admitting that a foreign power is meddling in US decision making.

You make it sound as if bribing politicians is a normal acceptable practice and others should also engage in.

I can't recall the "acceptable" form of bribes but yes that happens and is legal.

It's funny how you make me a villian being a messenger. Information that you didn't know and practices you didn't know happened.


EDIT: Its called lobbying.

 

[Developereo]

Is offering bribes to politicians allowed in the US? Isn't the US opposed to the practice of bribing politicians? You are essentially admitting that a foreign power is meddling in US decision making.

You make it sound as if bribing politicians is a normal acceptable practice and others should also engage in.

When it happens in poor countries, it is called bribing.
When it happens in other countries, it is called 'free speech' and 'fundamental pillar of democracy'.

In all fairness, though, Western countries have much stronger institutions to make sure bribed politicians don't get too crazy handing out favors in return for the bribes.

 

[Strigon]

Ruff ruff ruff

Lmao

Please take your meds, no one agrees with you here and it’s perfectly ok to disagree.

I dont seek the agreement of fools. Especially not of the ones that can't hold logical conversation.

And the fact that I can push you to become personal, you know inside that you are full of shit.

 

[PakFactor]

When will the 'House' be burned down? Year 2074? The system is rigged, as we all know it well. I remember Ross Perot got 19% of the votes. 19%!!! Where is he and his 'movement' now?? And here people are wishing for a pie in the sky Jill Stein reaching to 5% to become a political party. BTW, I supported Nader in 2000 and Jill Stein in one of the subsequent elections, so the idealism is not new to me. However, I believe that both Rep and Dem are in a fight for Presidency with the thinnest of margins in many of the last many elections. They can't ignore a single vote in the Swing States: G.W.Bush won based on a just a few hundred votes in Florida in 2000. The AIPAC money is the kingmaker but hundreds of thousands of voters in Swing States can also be big influence.
So, to repeat myself: The Pro Palestinian voters need to act as a block. One public voice like AARP or AIPAC or some Labor Union. Absolutely. Vote as a block in the Swing States after making a public political stand to conditionally support Harris for only 2024 and only in the Swing States. Such a declaration would go long ways in getting 'noticed' otherwise expect to be sitting on the sidelines licking wounds like Nader, Perot and multiple other candidates voters did and still do. If Harris deviates then punish her.
But you just don't want a Trump Presidency. It is almost predictable what he is going to do. Harris is not predictable in contrast. I am in agreement with Mehdi Hassan on this point and no matter how many people chewed him out or me out, I believe the needle has to move forward through influencing the Democratic Party behavior, which already has a sufficient Pro Palestinian vote, then going for some Pie in the Sky at least in this election cycle.
I hope the Pro Palestinian voices, whether Muslim or not, think in really political terms then emotionally. I don't know if any of them are even reading this here. Trust me: From reading the Zionist blogspace for months, they are afraid of Harris!!


I keep hearing about Trump being so blunt and what not as if that's a virtue in itself.

It's not a virtue, but he's vocal about the behind-the-scenes discussions, and his train of thought, whereas past presidents often did roundabouts to sugarcoat their actual intent.

Also, check the below tweet. It seems the Pakistani-Americans are putting their weight behind the orange in the fruit bowl.

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[Strigon]

When it happens in poor countries, it is called bribing.
When it happens in other countries, it is called 'free speech' and 'fundamental pillar of democracy'.

In all fairness, though, Western countries have much stronger institutions to make sure bribed politicians don't get too crazy handing out favors in return for the bribes.

Its called lobbying, sir know it all.

 

[Strigon]

I am saying my vote is just as important as any other vote. Every single voter expects the candidate to address their issues; this is the fundamental basis of democracy. You are the only one putting yourself down and saying you are a second class citizen and your issues should take a back seat.



I am educating you about the fundamental contract behind democracy: I give you my vote so you can represent my interests.



AIPAC is only one arm of the Zionist lobby and it has many ways to influence and control politicians. Entire books have been written about it. May I suggest you read The Israel Lobby by Mearsheimer for starters? There are plenty more.

No, what you are saying is that only your voice should matter. And if a candidate doesnt land on every single point of yours, that person and anyone behind them are all wrong (second class citizens).


I am doing quite well, thanks I'll have to defer that education to someone else.

Yes, there's no disagreement there. Your point as it differs from mine on APIC?

 

[Developereo]

Its called lobbying, sir know it all.

Lobbying can happen in many forms. The subject here was specifically about giving money to politicians.

Citizens United v. FEC - Wikipedia

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Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission, 558 U.S. 310 (2010), is a landmark decision of the Supreme Court of the United States regarding campaign finance laws and free speech under the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. The court held 5–4 that the freedom of speech clause of the First Amendment prohibits the government from restricting independent expenditures for political campaigns by corporations, nonprofit organizations, labor unions, and other associations.

 

[Unknowntruth]

L

I dont seek the agreement of fools. Especially not of the ones that can't hold logical conversation.

And the fact that I can push you to become personal, you know inside that you are full of shit.

You are the one who can’t hold a logical conversation.

We are exercising our right to vote as we please while you do not like that.

You expect us to value your opinion and vote as you see fit and you want us to ignore our moral compass. Your vote is not more valuable than mines. You want us to have no voice and just let it be so as long as we elect your preferred candidate Kamala GENOCIDE Harris.

Got it?

 

[UKBengali]

She didn't say any such thing. What I understand from her statement is that all the loss and suffering by people in Gaza was started by Hamas on October 7. It is analogous to saying that so much loss and destruction in the Middle East was caused by the actions of Al-Queda on 9/11. Al-Queda did not plan on destroying the Middle-East, but that is what happened in the end. Similarly, Hamas did not plan on destroying Gaza but that is how it is ending.

It is implying that it is Hamas’s fault.

No one forced the entity to commit genocide as response to October 7th.

That is the problem.

 

[Dalit]

I can't recall the "acceptable" form of bribes but yes that happens and is legal.

It's funny how you make me a villian being a messenger. Information that you didn't know and practices you didn't know happened.


EDIT: Its called lobbying.

So bribing officials with money is called lobbying? You said it yourself. AIPAC bribes US politicians with money.

Is this practice legal in the USA?

 

[Strigon]

Lobbying can happen in many forms. The subject here was specifically about giving money to politicians.

Citizens United v. FEC - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission, 558 U.S. 310 (2010), is a landmark decision of the Supreme Court of the United States regarding campaign finance laws and free speech under the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. The court held 5–4 that the freedom of speech clause of the First Amendment prohibits the government from restricting independent expenditures for political campaigns by corporations, nonprofit organizations, labor unions, and other associations.

Okay nice cite-a-lot. No disagreements there. Again your point?