Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

[Shawnee]

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I have not heard or protests recently

 

[Shawnee]

Looks like many Israelis are going to Cyprus. A great analysis from a Greek person; Latent Israeli narrative/prefix for colonization/conquest of Cyprus. I will be interesting to see how Greeks at large see this move when this news becomes more well known, especially if it shifts from just resorts to “participation” in Cypriot affairs.

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War may extend to Cyprus in future escalations.

 

[Raiden]

I've been patient with Saudis and giving them benefit of doubt for a long time. In such a serious genocide like this, when you mobilize your media resources and other resources to align yourselves with a anti-Islamic, vicious enemy that curse the Prophet and Allah, while you try to justify your position using religion, demeaning Hamas as atheists, Shia, one time, other time they call them Khawarij, etc.... when the Saudi ruling elite are the actual Khawarij, then this has crossed all red lines and the Khawariji, friends of the Jews, need to be reminded again that they are a deviant minority and Muslims will punish them.

I don't think that hadeeth is reliable. If Allah brings about major signs we will rely on him through such times. But we truly don't know and not something I wish for.

I for one has no doubt on which side the Saudis have the allegiance...and it's clearly not Islam.

IMO, the likes of Bin Salman and Bin Zayed and most of the royal families is what the Americans has fostered in Arabia and in many cases across the Muslims world. These people are educated in the West, introduced to Western ideals and comes to idolize them.

For them Islam is the thing of the past, and the future is the so called 'liberal order' that is just another name for Jew world order. So of course they sympathize with the Jews and uses whatever in their means to support them.

Disbelievers are allies to one another , remember ?

I think that hadith is valid, we may agree to disagree. But as far as I'm concerned, the Arabian peninsula, The Levant and Iraq is mentioned in the hadith about end times. SO I took particular interests to it, including potential key figures like King Salman.

I think the war in Gaza, the general and escalating war and chaos in the middle east, the open treachery of Arab leaders is the precursor for the Malhama that @Tamerlane and I discussed before.

 

[Falcon29]

I have not heard or protests recently

They want entire freedom of speech shutdown at institutional and public level when it comes to discussing the Gaza Holocaust.

 

[Dalit]

Looks like many Israelis are going to Cyprus. A great analysis from a Greek person; Latent Israeli narrative/prefix for colonization/conquest of Cyprus. I will be interesting to see how Greeks at large see this move when this news becomes more well known, especially if it shifts from just resorts to “participation” in Cypriot affairs.

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These Zionists are showing keen interest in Cyprus. Extremely dangerous development for Cyprus.

 

[Falcon29]

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[FuturePAF]

War may extend to Cyprus in future escalations.

Technically Cyprus is not part of NATO, so you might be right.

Cyprus–NATO relations - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[Masai]

I have not heard or protests recently

Almost complete silence from OIC and no street protests in any Muslim nation whatsoever, in support of Palestinians or Iran.

 

[Raiden]

Musollini was once given the title

" The Protector of Islam"

By the Libyan collaborators, many of them part of the clerical class and local elites.

Just like the Saudis/UAE and their Madkhali thugs today, people like Farris al Hammadi

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[Dalit]

Musollini was once given the title

" The Protector of Islam"

By the Libyan collaborators, many of them part of the clerical class and local elites.

Just like the Saudis/UAE and their Madkhali thugs today, people like Farris al Hammadi

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People like Faris al Hammadi are extremely dangerous. Supported by the Saudi state to spread fitna. I would rate this guy a much bigger fitna than Zionists.

 

[Tamerlane]

Interesting theory. Maybe.
However, what if the rumors are true that Israel is really running low on Iron Dome etc?? If that's true then Hezbollah, which already has all the time in the world to drag this conflict on, which doesn't suit Israel at all, will continue to keep Israel at least off-balanced.

Nah, me thinks Americans want to wind this down. It is not a wishful thinking of mine: Dispassionately speaking, the Resistance should NOT stop the War of Attrition. But Americans, who don't want a regional war, don't want to continue to deplete the American ammo in a War of Attrition either.

Finally, living in America for a long time and seen how the consent is manufactured here, this is nothing like 2002/2003 leading to the attack on Iraq. There is not much appetite or readiness in America for another Middle Eastern war. The chatter on the MSMs and the Op-eds would be different in that case.

I'll clarify the main points I'm making, based on today's situation, although things can change in the future.

• Iran is out of the picture for now. As long as Israel doesn't attack Iran, Iran won't attack Israel.
• Iran has established itself as a serious power, not to be messed with. It can inflict damage on Israel and the world economy that is unbearable for Israel or the West.
• Iran's status is now similar to Russia. The war in Ukraine has been going on for 2.75 years, but they stop short of attacking Russia knowing that Russia can voporize the whole West.
• America will stop Israel from attacking Iran and therefore avoid a regional war.
• In the future, the US/UK/EU will concentrate on overthrowing the govt. in Iran.
• Israel will continue to bomb Hamas and Hezbollah as long as it likes. When it's satisfied that it has achieved its aims it will stop.
• When Israel stops then US, Saudi, Lebanese govt. etc will sign a peace deal. Hesbollah attacks on Israel will stop.

Israel will not achieve all its goals. Its maximum goal was to take out Iran, expel Palestinians from Gaza and turn it into an Israeli settlement and destroy Hezbollah. It won't achieve its maximun goals, but it will get away with genocide of Gazans and the degrading of Hezbollah. Before the war on Hezbollah people were saying that Hezbollah will destroy Israel. Clearly that's not the case. The war in Ukraine has continued for 2.75 years. There's no reason to think that Israel won't be allowed to bomb Lebanon for a few more months.

Just my thought. I'm not claiming to know everything. It is possible that Israel will attack Iran in the next few days and my theory will prove to be wrong.

 

[Raiden]

How about if I tell you that the israelis are now driven by messianic calls and not fine statecraft and sound geopolitical strategy.

They would push a war with Iran no doubt, and it will engulf them in the end, not necessarily from Iran.

 

[Tamerlane]

How about if I tell you that the israelis are now driven by messianic calls and not fine statecraft and sound geopolitical strategy.

They would push a war with Iran no doubt, and it will engulf them in the end, not necessarily from Iran.

Yes, the Israelis are driven by messianic zeal. An analyst mentioned that the right wing that has taken control over Israel is driven by messianic fervour. However, Israel can't destroy Iran by itself. It needs America and while US politicians are totally controlled by Jews, the US military is still relatively independent from Jewish control. They will not go into a war that is illogical to them.

 

[Flotilla]

I'll clarify the main points I'm making, based on today's situation, although things can change in the future.

• Iran is out of the picture for now. As long as Israel doesn't attack Iran, Iran won't attack Israel.
• Iran has established itself as a serious power, not to be messed with. It can inflict damage on Israel and the world economy that is unbearable for Israel or the West.
• Iran's status is now similar to Russia. The war in Ukraine has been going on for 2.75 years, but they stop short of attacking Russia knowing that Russia can voporize the whole West.
• America will stop Israel from attacking Iran and therefore avoid a regional war.
• In the future, the US/UK/EU will concentrate on overthrowing the govt. in Iran.
• Israel will continue to bomb Hamas and Hezbollah as long as it likes. When it's satisfied that it has achieved its aims it will stop.
• When Israel stops then US, Saudi, Lebanese govt. etc will sign a peace deal. Hesbollah attacks on Israel will stop.

Israel will not achieve all its goals. Its maximum goal was to take out Iran, expel Palestinians from Gaza and turn it into an Israeli settlement and destroy Hezbollah. It won't achieve its maximun goals, but it will get away with genocide of Gazans and the degrading of Hezbollah. Before the war on Hezbollah people were saying that Hezbollah will destroy Israel. Clearly that's not the case. The war in Ukraine has continued for 2.75 years. There's no reason to think that Israel won't be allowed to bomb Lebanon for a few more months.

Just my thought. I'm not claiming to know everything. It is possible that Israel will attack Iran in the next few days and my theory will prove to be wrong.

I don't agree.
The reputation of Israel like democracy and Rule of law country has collapsed like all Gaza.
Probably because of the Genocide they degraded Hamás. But the survivors will keep the flame of the Resistance alive.

Israel won't be again a western democracy anymore. Whoever wants to make deals with Israel will use backchannels or intemediaries for dealing even tiniest free trade teatry.

World Public oppinion won't forget those crimes. And because this ultra nationalistic anxiety you are watching right now in the Knesset It is a matter of time that someone like Netanyahu or even worse will step up to the rule the country. And at that moment any mistake will worsen internal situation.

Israel cannot survive more than 7 or 10 years. Contradictions, rampant corruption and rivers of blood are shocking the country to an extreme situation. Even young people are fleeing out of the country. Their situation is similar to Roman Empire with those bombastic emperors expending gold with full hands while the country was economically, socially and morally rotting.

 

[Raiden]

Yes, the Israelis are driven by messianic zeal. An analyst mentioned that the right wing that has taken control over Israel is driven by messianic fervour. However, Israel can't destroy Iran by itself. It needs America and while US politicians are totally controlled by Jews, the US military is still relatively independent from Jewish control. They will not go into a war that is illogical to them.

I have little confidence that even if America is to be involved, that they could physically occupy Iran. Blow some stuff here and there ? sure, but without a full occupation this will be a grinding war, which grinds both Israel's tiny Jew population and that of America, who is actually desperate to exit the Middle East.