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Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present
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Arab and Turkish rulers (MBS, Sisi, Erdogan) all rushing to congratulate and praise Trump and compete to be his favourite vassal...
Meengla
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It's just diplomatic gestures--quite common between nations. Heck, as much Pakistan and India are at each others' throats their leadership still send greetings to the new govts.
Meengla
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The shape of things to come in Gaza under the so-called anti-war Trump Presidency? I think the Biden Administration and the Israeli Generals are ready for a ceasefire, including even full withdrawal from Gaza, at least for now. What can Trump offer to the Gazans? Or, if one were to be positive, he forces Netanyahu to accept what the Israeli Generals have been saying: Stop the conflict, withdraw, bring the hostages back home, rebuild IDF/Israel and then deal with Gaza later? Trump does have the political space to do whatever he would want to--if he would want to.
And remember that: No two US Presidents are the carbon copy of each other--even on the Israel-Palestine issue, AIPAC or not. I believe even G.W.Bush woudln't have gone to support Israel to the extent this bastard Zionist Biden has gone to.
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“You know, we had no wars for years. We had no wars except when we defeated ISIS. We defeated ISIS in record time. But we had no wars. They said he would start a war. I’m not going to start a war, I’m going to stop wars.”His words open the question as to whether Trump will be good for Israel in wartime, particularly given his reluctance to engage militarily.Some think his entry into the geopolitics of Israel’s multifront war, would bring it to an end.
He is expected to pressure Israel to wrap up the Israel-Hamas War and with Hezbollah, while at the same time supporting ceasefire goals that are more likely to favor Israel.
This comes precisely at a time when Israel had achieved many of its military goals and is fighting in the absence of ceasefire deals that provide adequate security.Netanyahu and Trump are more likely to be aligned on issues relating to the Day After the war with Hamas in the Gaza Strip. Had Vice President Kamala Harris won, she would have insisted on the link between a Day After plan and a two-state resolution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. She would also have wanted to see the Palestinian Authority return to Gaza, something that Trump would likely oppose.A Trump White House will also cut tension with Israel over issues critical to Biden over the United Nations Relief and Works Agency, humanitarian issues in Gaza, and Netanyahu’s judicial reform plans.THE BIDEN administration now lacks teeth with which to push Israel into improving the humanitarian situation in Gaza by threatening it with an arms embargo.It’s also presumed that Trump would support Israeli military action against Iran including the bombing of its nuclear faculties. The Iranians themselves have shown that they fear Trump, so it remains possible that his return to the White House could bring a tempering influence on Tehran.Trump would have added legislative support for pro-Israel measures, given that Republicans have control of the Senate and are close to House control.
Trump, however, enters the White House on January 20, after a critical three-month lame-duck period headed by Biden.
And remember that: No two US Presidents are the carbon copy of each other--even on the Israel-Palestine issue, AIPAC or not. I believe even G.W.Bush woudln't have gone to support Israel to the extent this bastard Zionist Biden has gone to.
Trump’s victory throws diplomatic bombshell into Israel's multi-front war - analysis
The Trump win could push Hamas to prefer a deal under Biden, believing terms would be better given Trump’s pro-Israeli stances and Qatar ties.
www.jpost.com
“You know, we had no wars for years. We had no wars except when we defeated ISIS. We defeated ISIS in record time. But we had no wars. They said he would start a war. I’m not going to start a war, I’m going to stop wars.”His words open the question as to whether Trump will be good for Israel in wartime, particularly given his reluctance to engage militarily.Some think his entry into the geopolitics of Israel’s multifront war, would bring it to an end.
He is expected to pressure Israel to wrap up the Israel-Hamas War and with Hezbollah, while at the same time supporting ceasefire goals that are more likely to favor Israel.
This comes precisely at a time when Israel had achieved many of its military goals and is fighting in the absence of ceasefire deals that provide adequate security.Netanyahu and Trump are more likely to be aligned on issues relating to the Day After the war with Hamas in the Gaza Strip. Had Vice President Kamala Harris won, she would have insisted on the link between a Day After plan and a two-state resolution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. She would also have wanted to see the Palestinian Authority return to Gaza, something that Trump would likely oppose.A Trump White House will also cut tension with Israel over issues critical to Biden over the United Nations Relief and Works Agency, humanitarian issues in Gaza, and Netanyahu’s judicial reform plans.THE BIDEN administration now lacks teeth with which to push Israel into improving the humanitarian situation in Gaza by threatening it with an arms embargo.It’s also presumed that Trump would support Israeli military action against Iran including the bombing of its nuclear faculties. The Iranians themselves have shown that they fear Trump, so it remains possible that his return to the White House could bring a tempering influence on Tehran.Trump would have added legislative support for pro-Israel measures, given that Republicans have control of the Senate and are close to House control.
Trump, however, enters the White House on January 20, after a critical three-month lame-duck period headed by Biden.
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Meengla
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For World War III to happen either Russia or China or both will have to be involved. I think Russia is likely to be pacified by Trump over Ukraine. And China? Extremely unlikely they would do much to defend the pro Palestinian entities in the Middle East especially if Trump moves back from the Indo-Pacific 'pivot'.
Anyway, between now and January 20, lots of possibilities: This is NOT some 'lame duck' Presidency as some are saying. The Biden Admin has all the powers till January 20, 2025. And then the new President is going to step in, beholden to his own pressure groups, and beloved of Netanyahu!
Starlord
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You mean Biden/Kamala ? You way of seeing American election is extremely narrow, people understand that Democrats have stab them in the back over the middle eastern wars, I knew one person from Palestine and she lost 35 family members in the war, let that sink in for a second, she maybe the only person from her ext family that is remain alive rest are killed by the bombs sent by America under democratic Govt, this war would've been over within a month with just one call from White House, but Biden nutjob who I bet believe in Rapture type BS thought maybe I will push the return of Jews to holy land than Jesus will bring me to heaven, and Kamala as a Brown/black whatever she claiming for the day was only pandering for AIPAC to win, she licked the boots of zionists as best as she could but people have had enough of their two-faced policies, At least the young and Muslim voters, maybe in future Democrats will learn a thing or two to respect their voters.
Hassan Al-Somal
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But how can we ignore the fact that Kamala Harris is part of an administration that created an air bridge between the US to "Israel" and delivered 70 tons of weapons that were dropped on a defenseless strip that is 25kms long and less than 10 kms wide with 2 million people in it? This genocide is going on for 13 months now.
How can we ignore the fact that Kamala Harris is part of the administration not only supported Israel in its invasion of Lebanon but even encouraged other groups in Lebanon to go against Hezbollah and start civil war just this week.
US & UK were also bombing Yemen in the past 13 months after Yemenis came to the aid of Palestinians in Gaza.
I personally did not vote. Many Muslims and non-Muslims did not vote as well. And seriously, it makes no difference which party that is in power in America. It is the deep state that runs things here.
Tamerlane
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@Meengla needs to differentiate between the presidential race and the congress. The presidential elections had rabid supporters of Netanyahu and genocide so neither deserved Muslim votes. However, the congress has some Democratic representatives who’re sympathetic to Muslims and they deserved votes. For example, Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar got reelected.
925boy
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Ok, but have you noticed that Republicans tend to prefer to escalate the US's beef with China over US's beef with Russia, and democrats prefer the opposite?
Currently, US and NATO are in an indirect war with Russia.....under a US democratic president, and Trump entered a trade war with China during his last presidency (US didn't win the little tiff). So Republicans are probably more likely to get US into a war with China than Dems- lets watch the US-China dynamics over the near future.
Definitely not a lame duck, probably just a lame military. All entities are ready for war today, but the side that lacks the proper strategy and stamina will lose big to the other side.
Yup...i guess Iran would've hit/be hitting Israel at that point. Trump can stupidly risk a war with Iran, that's probably one of Iran's worries with Trump- he's erratic and impulsive sometimes (but as president, that is too many times for to do the job well), inexperienced in diplomacy and uneducated in politics. There's a reason most US presidents were ex-lawyers.
Meengla
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Firstly, I DO think that Harris would have been far better than Biden or Trump on Palestine IF she were the President. But we will never know that, right: All of you fail to understand: A VP is a backup candidate in case something happens to the President. Please present your evidence as to how many times a VP stood upto her/her President on pressing issues? And you can teach the 'future Democrats' all the lessons for the next nth election cycles while the Israelis and their backers are LAUGHING at your logic of enabling the Trump win: I have seen enough online in last few days alone to make that claim. But go on! Go right on and do the Einstein definition of madness for the next nth election cycles!!
I think you are in America, right? Please point out how many times a VP publicly goes against the sitting President especially on major issues??
Buddy: I shared a video of Rep. Jayaypaul yesterday: no less than 60 Democratic Congressmen voted to support some anti-Israel measure while NONE, NONE of the Republicans, even not Thomas Massie supported that measure. How many times I mentioned that Harris herself boycotted the Netanyahu Joint Congress speech which she was supposed to supervise? She took a lot of risk in AN ELECTION YEAR!! Why don't you guys look a bit deeper into things?!!!
Republicans, more than the Democrats, would rather compromise with China to save Israel and it should not surprise anyone given the Republican 'base' .
Yes, here I can agree with you. America is not much in a position to wage a regional war and I have a feeling Iranians are aware of that, Trump or not.
Overall, this debate about Trump vs Harris has become old. I am disappointed that the viewpoints by people like me, @Developereo and @FuturePAF and a few others have fallen on deaf ears!! I presented a gradual approach: Take advantage of what's already there and build on that instead of some pie in the sky like the Green Party. But Only time will tell who was right. I have slight hope that Trump wouldn't be too bad against the Palestinians but only because the American power is not as great anymore and American preference should be in the Info-Pacific.
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